bobbyperu said:

I agree with Riverman that most of the songwriting on this album is less than great. I started my own discussion on Colonized Mind some time ago and read some very good comments. There may be more to this song than you think, Riverman! Give it another listen. But on the whole, I like the album mostly because as a guitar player, Prince is in top shape on this one.

Fuck Evolution

bigd74 said:

mysterymum said:

How gorgeous is this album???

Just making my way through Prince's extensive back catalogue.

Any sugesstions for a good 'un's?

depends on how much you already have, for starters Lovesexy, The Gold Experience the album is pretty great aswell.

Like lovsexy, the gold exp. is next on my list as it ranks pretty highly on here.

NeonCraxx said:

bobbyperu said:

Mysterymum, as you can see most here agree that this is one of his best records from the recent years. But since it comes together with MPLSound, I wonder how you like that one? It's been said here before, it's difficult to give you some advice as we don't know which albums you have. But you can't go wrong with the Dirty Mind... Lovesexy years. (1980-88.) But I must say I love it that you are a late starter when it comes to P's music. It means you can judge mis music as a whole and not be stuck in one particular period. Most of us here are Prince veterans with fond memories about his glory days in the 1980s. And that's why there's so much bitching going on about his later work. I'd love to hear the rest of your journey into the Prince world...

Never really knew about him. I'm 26 and my hubby (a lifelong prince fan) is 10 years older than me and I sort of knew his biggest and commercial hits, but nothing else. So 6 months ago I bought the Per Neilson book and I was hooked. So I dug out all my hubby's old albums and I'm trying to make my way through them all. Also trying to get my head around all the craziness!!! Listened and loved most of the 80's music and now as everyone seems to have such strong opinions on the more recent albums, I though I should form my own opinions. Will keep you informed

DoffieParker said:

i love this album & listen to it a lot.. in my top 5 faves

& u won't go wrong with any of his stuff, there's so much it's overwhelming.

parade/ under the cherry moon film is fun & have u heard planet earth? it's not that old

Film is fun!! Havent got to Planet Earth yet.

purpledoveuk said:

NeonCraxx said:

Fuck Evolution

Yeah - no place for fact . Damn those pesky dinosaurs, geological studies and carbon dating for messing with the programme

Nobody gives a crap what you thinks is a fact, to be quite honest.

I could say my belief is a fact except I don't force my ideas on other innocent minds.

I thought this topic was about Lotusflow3r and how it's amazing.

Way to 360 a good thread. Do you do this to other message boards?

Fuck Dinosaurs.

Thank You,

Neon.

[Edited 10/15/11 9:24am]

NeonCraxx said:

purpledoveuk said:

just felt I needed to respond as you seemed to be suggesting science wasn't fact religion was. As you were

No I wasn't. Read carefully.

Goodbye.

I am the wisest man alive, for I know one thing, and that is that I know nothing.

You should keep this in mind before spouting off about supposed 'facts' Purpledoveuk.

I am agonostic and verging on being atheist, but i would never dismiss anything fully, even Prince's strange beliefs.

kangafunk said:

Whenever Lotusflow3r or in particular Colonized Mind is bigged up on here I pride myself for steadfastly linking to Miriam Makeba's song Quit It. Prince just added dumb, bigoted lyrics about evolution and single parent families to her melody and instrumentation and even lifted the "... no responsibility" line:

when I listen to Prince music, then it is usually something from 1981-1988 for me.

LF/MPLS are good/ OK, but it is so rare I bother to take a listen,

Dsoul said:

Whenever Lotusflow3r or in particular Colonized Mind is bigged up on here I pride myself for steadfastly linking to Miriam Makeba's song Quit It. Prince just added dumb, bigoted lyrics about evolution and single parent families to her melody and instrumentation and even lifted the "... no responsibility" line:

What a lovely song. I think Prince must have been heavily influenced by it, maybe you could even go as far as saying he ripped it! I actually think her version is better.

kangafunk said:

Dsoul said:

Whenever Lotusflow3r or in particular Colonized Mind is bigged up on here I pride myself for steadfastly linking to Miriam Makeba's song Quit It. Prince just added dumb, bigoted lyrics about evolution and single parent families to her melody and instrumentation and even lifted the "... no responsibility" line:

What a lovely song. I think Prince must have been heavily influenced by it, maybe you could even go as far as saying he ripped it! I actually think her version is better.

Saying ripped off is going TOO far. It just is.

NeonCraxx said:

kangafunk said:

What a lovely song. I think Prince must have been heavily influenced by it, maybe you could even go as far as saying he ripped it! I actually think her version is better.

Saying ripped off is going TOO far. It just is.

Maybe, but the similaraties are unbelievable. Prince can do no wrong in my eyes usually, but I am now struggling to give him too much credit for colonized mind. I still love the song and album though.

I think "Colonized Mind", like other Prince compositions of the last decade, suffers the hostility of many of his fans towards his religious beliefs.

I think it's an excellent tune, for sure one of his best since the early 90's. Even the lyrics aren't as dumb as some think, in my opinion, at least in part. What's sure is that many of his sex lyrics from the 80's are sillier than these, but nobody complains about them like it happens with "Colonized Mind", just because sex is great and religion is shit. Our society...

As for the whole album, I like it a lot. In my opinion, his best effort since The Rainbow Children. I'd be happy if he recorded something this good in the future.

I have grown to appreciate this album extremely, I give it a listen quite often now and it is simply fantastic. '$' and '4ever' are about the only two songs that don't make it in the top for me. Everything else for me is simply awesome. The guitar work, and message is very appealing. I love the feel and motivation it gives me, AWESOME ALBUM!

Javi said:

Dsoul said:

Whenever Lotusflow3r or in particular Colonized Mind is bigged up on here I pride myself for steadfastly linking to Miriam Makeba's song Quit It. Prince just added dumb, bigoted lyrics about evolution and single parent families to her melody and instrumentation and even lifted the "... no responsibility" line:

I agree that Prince's song is almost a complete note for note cover of this song. And I agree her version is great.

I still dig Colonized Mind becasue I had never listened to Miriam Makeba's song before Prince's version. So I cannot take back liking Prince's song. I like both versions but I do have a better appreciation of it now though.

A tree fell in the forest someone posted it on YouTube.

YouTube is a psycotic drug than can be abused for recreational purpouses, but when used properly it can achieve good results and efficacy. Some people, especially politicians whose words and deeds are captured forever and certain purple loving musicians HATE IT for that reason.

kangafunk said:

NeonCraxx said:

Saying ripped off is going TOO far. It just is.

Maybe, but the similaraties are unbelievable.

It's really not though. Just those three chords and the no responsiblilties line.

That's the last time I'm going to go there.

NeonCraxx said:

kangafunk said:

Maybe, but the similaraties are unbelievable.

It's really not though. Just those three chords and the no responsiblilties line.

That's the last time I'm going to go there.

oh please dont start this shit again

He ripped the song off. Accept it. Period.

only song i really don't like is forever..

Soulstar77A said:

oh please dont start this shit again

I did. And I enjoyed it OH SO much.

Soulstar77A said:

He ripped the song off. Accept it. Period.

I won't accept it. I'm fucking right.

U mad.

Many Thanks,

Neon

Oh, and FUCK EVOLUTION!

[Edited 10/15/11 15:38pm]

purpledoveuk said:

Wanna talk about it Colonized Mind Upload, the evolution principle You see a rock on the shore and say “It’s always been there” Download, no responsibility Do what you want, nobody cares those 2 cause and effect examples are chalk and cheese - Evolution is fact...besides rocks don't evolve...as usual hes getting ideas mixed up and spoutung them (much like Act of God does) he's referring to a combination of The Giant Impact hypothesis by Darwin and Acretion which is a proven fact. They of course have no bearing on the 2nd statement. Upload, the master race idea Genetically disposed to rule the world Download, future full of isolated Full of isolated, boys and girls seems Nazis got off lightly with this Upload, the 2 party system The lesser of 2 dangers, Illusion of choice Download, their form of fascism Nothing really ever changes You never had a voice not sure I get this...is it a "same sing with a different name" political comment again? Listen to me one time : If you look, you’re sure gonna find Throughout mankind’s history A Colonized Mind The one in power makes law Under which the colonized fall Without God, it’s just the blind leading the blind yep, that's how it works and why you should vote instead of pissing and moaning about how you aren't heard Upload, a joint venture record deal It’s just another way another man can still sleep While he’s sticking you with the bill Download, a temporary acquisition of fleeting fame and fortune Nothing to leave in your will Hey hey hey hey you signed the deal more than once...you've done well out if it - I've never been able to demand a camel midnight...you've got nothing to leave in a will then be more sensible with your money Upload, a child with no father Download, no respect for authority Upload, a child with no mother Download, a hard time showing love the only decent comment in the whole song IF it's referring to slap dash parenting...if it means a kid can't grow up without both then it's a cowardly attack on a lot of hardworking single parents If you look, you’re sure gonna find Throughout mankind’s history A Colonized Mind The one in power makes law Under which the colonized fall Without God : it’s just the blind leading the blind not if your open minded to facts and education my friend instead of blinkered to only religion and dismissing everything that doesn't fit your template [b]

You know, I pretty much agree with all of your criticisms here... but I still like the song. The musical elements - the solos, the band's obvious 'connection', just the way it builds...

toejam said:

Dsoul said:

Whenever Lotusflow3r or in particular Colonized Mind is bigged up on here I pride myself for steadfastly linking to Miriam Makeba's song Quit It. Prince just added dumb, bigoted lyrics about evolution and single parent families to her melody and instrumentation and even lifted the "... no responsibility" line:

Awesome song! I can definitely hear its similarities to "Colonized Mind", but it also reminds me of Zeppelin's "Stairway to Heaven". Of course they weren't strangers to "borrowing" an idea or two.

Dsoul said: