Yes, most Caribbean cuisines are spicy and I have noticed that with the Cajun foods as well. A lot of cultures have developed into sub-cultures from the combination of many, during the slavery eras, and have adopted specific foods/customs from one another throughout generations. [Edited 10/7/11 9:23am] | |
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This is not simple trying to identify from which part is his "african" blood, as he is a "mulatto" and from several parts are both his parents: Prince is someone who can belong to any part: Indian: north of it, North Africa: Morocco, Mauritania.. He definetely could belong to any island where meltings pots, melted races get along together, such as : Mauritius Island 'lol for it's mine..ha ha Caribean... I like his kind, cause he's from several... yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss all in one, one in all [Edited 10/7/11 11:45am] We make our own way to heaven everyday
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I could give two shits about race-related issues, but your horseshit got me involved. What a dipshit. So what you're saying is "speaking from your own heart/your own experience" is somehow MORE credible than research and literature. That's like all the idiots hollerin' about "stayin' positive" when you're in a whole mess of hell. Seeing the world for what it is - clearly and without personal baggage - is the only way to change your life for the better. It's not entirely possible, but when I hear someone saying shit like "follow your heart" it makes me think of George Bush not needing FACTS because he follows his gut. You can't change your situation if you're too busy pretending you're a reincarnated Egyptian ruler or some shit. Positivity doesn't exist until you MAKE something positive happen. Feeling good about a fraudulent ideology is EMPTINESS. A rock is just a rock. Pretending it's a sign from god is fantasy as far as anyone can know.
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So Prince is African. African-American. Even though I was born here, and like Prince, know little to nothing about my "true heritage" aside form what I've read or heard, I must be Norwegian-American.
I wish people could let go of the divisive identifiers and just be a fucking human being for once. I don't give a shit WHO started it, two wrongs don't make a right.
"Hi. Nice to meet you. I'm a human being."
"Oh shit! I'm a human being, too! We have so much in common! Let's be friends!"
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steakfinger, i dont get you, what are you trying to say? be more clear, please | |
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Oh for goodness sakes, please show us where anyone in this thread 'blamed anyone' for the past?
Your insults and stereotypical assumptions does nothing but turn the thread in a negative direction, so it would be respectful of you if you stop imposing your own self guilt on others here, and making false claims against them, as an excuse for your own fears of this topic. Again, no one has forced you to read or participate in this thread, you made the decision on your own, and made it your 'own' problem. No one is out to get you or 'blame anyone for anything', it's a mature discussion taking place. Geez. | |
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The issue is: some afro-american people here seem very obsessed with their ancestry (including you), while other people see it as it is: your racial background has nothing to do with how you operate as an individual.
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It is in human nature to be interested in one's own roots. Especially small nations and minorities have an enormous need to belong somewhere and identify with someone who already has "made it" and become famous. Sometimes it's ridiculous. The rest of the world don't care, where Pamela Anderson's granddaddy's dad came from, but there were thousands of Finns eager to see "our Pam".
http://www.northspace.com...290606.pdf
Actually, Prince's Sami origin is an April fool joke of Minnesota Finnish Folk Society, but Finnish Press, including Lapin Kansa and Iltasanomat took it very seriously. For some reason.
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You're being hypocritical in your posting, because if one's racial/ethnic background didn't matter to you, then why did you mention what you think Prince's racial/ethnic background consisted of at all or your own for that matter? You demand for others to shut-up and not discuss the topic, while you throw out nasty insults, and make stereotypical, generalized judgements and assumptions, towards a specific group of people, you have clearly defined by their ethnicity, and claim that they are all 'obsessed with their ancestry'. You are being quite hypocritical and contradictive at the same time with your comments.
We are all from the same human species, with a wealth of beautiful cultures and ethnic groups, languages, etc. Like I said before, you are only expressing your own self-imposed fears of this topic, which is evident in your posts, and which no one here has caused on you, but yourself. Again, if this topic makes you uncomfortable, then you have a choice of not participating. No one here has forced you to. With that being said, I will no longer engage in discussion with you on this or your trolling and threadjacking of this topic. Have a good day.
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This thread so far has been very respectful, just people talking about heritage and origins. Your post doesn't make sense to me, is there anyone here whining about racial issues. Talk of race or better yet ethnicity is not a bad thing.
Do hijack this post and turn it into an ugly arguement which is what your post has done. If you don't like it and it's not a junk post then bypass it.
You post is very generalizing.
U could talk about Prince European origins and I will respectfully back u if it's a respectful thread
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It all depends on the place it's coming from. A person with a dark heart may see/use race ethncitity gender as a divider. But it's not always like that. People also love diversity. To pretend there are no differences isn't realistic either. People can respect and celebrate differences.
Nothing in this thread so far has sugested that anyone is talking about division or wronging others. People are talking about various African ethnic groups as well as European branches such as Cajun & Creole. So it's not one sided nor is it a negative thread happening here.
My recent family ancestors come from different ethnic backgrounds, they acknowledge it celebrate it and made some beautiful and respectful children & grandchildren.
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99% of the posters have been very respectful and positive. That being said it is turning into a 'Cultural Discussion' and may have to move to the General Forums | |
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The true bottom line is that all people on this planet originate from Africa, no matter what their current ethnicity is...and science can prove it. "Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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(Bolded part) That's a very good observation Babynoz. Never looked at it that way. I know very little about the Louisiana Creoles. Many of them vary in complexion and don't they speak some sort of 'pidgin' or 'patois' dialect? I know in the Caribbean they do.
There is a French Creole aka French West Indian community living in the Virgin Islands for years. They consider themselves no different from the Black Caribbeans culturewise, and practice the same customs (West Indian), i.e. eat the same type foods, music, speak similar West Indian dialects, etc. Many have intermarried with other Caribbean ethnic groups, and are descendants of French Europeans that lived on the island years ago. They have the same "West Indian" accents like the rest of native-born Virgin Islanders, no difference. I was visiting family in the USVI, last April and saw the French Creoles or French West Indians/Caribbeans having a celebration of their ethnicity in the islands, during a festival that they have every year, that my brother explained to me. My brother (and 2 of my other brothers and 1 sister) was born in the USVI, but me and my 3 sisters and youngest brother were born stateside. The French Creoles of European descent also participate in the annual Caribbean carnival with all the islanders every year.
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He is a re-user who was banned as Riverpoet and other screen names for thread jacking and race baiting. Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise. | |
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End it Riverman37 You've taken this thread in a direction that is turning negative, and it was not like that. End it Riverman37 | |
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Let me say a few words in defense of my fellow DutchRiverman. Me too I think it's unfair tobblame people who live today for what their forefathers did. There is a discussion going on about this very subject in Holland, because like I said, our country was involved in the slave trade as much as any European country. But I do not feel gulty for it any more than I would want to blame the Germans who live today for what Hitler did. At the same time I can understand black Americans wanting to know what part of Africa their ancestors were from, but even if they find out, they're still Americans in the eyes of Africans. | |
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No one on this thread has blamed or is blaming anyone for 'anything' in the past. Riverman is projecting his own personal prejudices towards Black American heritage on this thread, and he has made that clear in his postings. He seems to do this anytime any orgers here mention that Prince is of Black American heritage, then he starts his rants/assumptions/insults/attacks. He even displayed anger towards Prince for performing at the State of the Black Union (SOBU) in 2009, that Prince's longtime friend, Tavis Smiley hosted. Riverman, then known as 'Riverpoet31" (as orger Babynoz has noted), had even inquired as to why Prince would Prince perform for that particular event. I would like you to find a post in this thread where anyone blamed anyone currently living today for slavery? You won't find one, because that is not what the thread is about.
Like orger Babynoz said, 'Riverman37' had the same behavior/attitude under the name "Riverpoet31" and when he found out Prince was performing at the SOBU, and made all kinds of assumptions of the name of the organization, what it represented, and assumptions about the intentions of that organization and American Blacks, similar to the assumptions he implied here. The event was open to anyone in the general public, as well as the concert Prince held for attendees and non-attendees after the event.
(Here's the link from that thread in 2009;refer to posts #152 and #155 - he uses the same term 'afro-american' in his description of Black Americans)
http://prince.org/msg/12/298946
It is not a crime for Black Americans to have the desire to search their family history no more than it is for those of German, Swedish, Italian, Spanish, Dutch, Arab, etc. to do the same. It always seem to be some type of anger coming from some who have no respect or have a miseducation/misunderstanding of Black American culture, and tend to devalue it as insignificant. As far as you stating that Black Americans who search their ancestry, regardless will still be seen as African American in the eyes of Africans, well there's absolutely nothing wrong with that is there, because it doesn't make our heritage of less value than anyone else's. So there is no reason for anyone to go off the deep end at the mere mention of "Black American or African American" heritage, and start making all kinds of degrading comments, insults and off-the-wall accusations, based on some ridiculous, personal, trumped-up fears they impose on themselves.
People discussing the origins of humans, their cultures/ethnicities, and the travels of humans around the world, is not a crime, and we should respect that. We all have a piece of one another in us, so as 'mature' adults we should be able to discuss, share and embrace one another's cultures/ethnicities, without feeling we will be attacked for it, regardless of our individual opinions of historical events, that happened in any country around the world. I think at this point it's best to ignore his insults, and hopefully we can get the thread back on track, like the mod suggested. [Edited 10/8/11 10:48am] | |
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Excuse me, but this is the original post...
It has nothing whatsoever to do with the nastiness that RP interjected into the thread or with what you're posting now, so what are you going on about??? Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise. | |
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"Black Louisiana Creole" suits Prince well; in my island, "creole people" are nowadays partly black, partly white, partly indian (or coolie"...) This is a beautiful mixture indeed as a sweet-sour recipe hmmm Yummy Yummy: am hungry BON APPETIT We make our own way to heaven everyday
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Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise. | |
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It's interesting to travel through one's origins, it's so rich because of the diversity..I do feel strong because of that.
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