OldFriends4Sale said:

HotGritz said:

I HOPE NOT! His best music was after the revolution.

oh boy another one seriously out of the know

U blind U can't C

U need 2 wear some glasses like DMC

I preferred NPG

^ And I prefer the Revolution. But it's all good.

purplethunder3121 said:

nah

jstar69 said:

SquirrelMeat said:

What multi million dollar bonuses? Where are you getting this stuff?

They quit becasue he was dicking them around. Then, he talked them back, so he could fire them and so to look in control.

What five times are you refering to where he tried to get them back?

I think funksterr is talking out his proverbial - pretending to be in the know!!! LOL - give us some hard cold evidence. I think W&L got jack of working with the man

Seriously this info has been out there publicly for pretty much two decades. What kind of TRUE Prince fan has never heard it? The Revolution got broke off some big bank after the Purple Rain era. Supposedly a million dollars. And writer/producers/musicians who are not big stars submit tracks, play gigs and all types of things for Stars without necessarily getting anything off the top if ever. That's just the nature of the industry. W&L always trying to get equal to what Prince gets. It ain't never gonna happen.

I'd rather see him reunite with Dez and Andre', Fink too. I like it funky.

MadamGoodnight said:

I'd rather see him reunite with Dez and Andre', Fink too. I like it funky.

Now THIS, this I want to see. They would make a good replacement for his current band.

HotGritz said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

oh boy another one seriously out of the know

U blind U can't C

U need 2 wear some glasses like DMC

I preferred NPG

the NPG is a concept not a band like the Revolution

When people say I prefer the NPG isn't that like 10 different variations of session musicians?

SoulAlive said:

funksterr said:

I think W&L took it as no contract=no money, but didn't Prince give them million dollar bonuses back in the day? He didn't have to do that, but he did. And as it turned out Prince's money was funny at the time and bankruptcy was looming around the corner, but he was kind of like MC Hammer, in that he took care of his people, even if he had no legal obligation to do so. W&L should of showed up everytime he invited them to, period. You don't see Fink, Bobby or Mark acting high and mighty. W&L don't acknowledge, that Prince is THE DRAW. Not them. Songwriting credits be damned, Prince is the star and he gets to call the shots at the end of the day. They don't want to respect that.

million dollar bonuses?! I doubt that Prince was that generous! lol.BrownMark has complained that he was never paid royalties and was offered a paltry sum to do the 'Parade' tour (at a time when Stevie Nicks offered him three times that amount).

lol yeah the Funksterr is starting to look like an A$$, an uneducated one at that

OldFriends4Sale said:

HotGritz said:

I preferred NPG

the NPG is a concept not a band like the Revolution

When people say I prefer the NPG isn't that like 10 different variations of session musicians?

Yeah has been since 1996 or so. The NPG wasn't even treated like an actual band compared to the Revolution in regards that they got to sing with Prince on the tracks and contribute musically. Oh yeah and Prince didn't give the Revolution members "million dollar bonuses".

OldFriends4Sale said:

HotGritz said:

I preferred NPG

the NPG is a concept not a band like the Revolution

When people say I prefer the NPG isn't that like 10 different variations of session musicians?

The original line-up of the Revolution was not the line-up everyone praises to high heavens and neither was the last line-up. The 'Revolution' everyone seem to go crazy over only did 2 albums together as that official group. The 1999 album had Dez and no Wendy and the Parade album had Miko, Eric, Atlanta, Jerome, Greg, Wally (& Susannah) in the line up. so which Revolution should reunite?

Wasn't Prince's original band after 94 East and Grand Central/Champagne called The Rebels?

That would consist of Prince, Fink, Dez, Andre, Gayle (later Lisa) and Bobby, right?

if they did reunite,this is what the tour should be called:

Prince And The Revolution: 'Purple Reign,Lightning And Thunder' World Tour 2012

thoughts?

OldFriends4Sale said:

HotGritz said:

I preferred NPG

the NPG is a concept not a band like the Revolution

When people say I prefer the NPG isn't that like 10 different variations of session musicians?

That's what I like about them - a concept that can evolve with different members, different styles and looks and different sounds. I love that he changed up musicians while still calling it NPG. To me....the Revolution was like his rock/pop answer to Rick James' Stone City Band or a version of Sly and the Family Stone. Hell throw in James Brown and his band.

Prince is too big for that. He is a solo artist that requires back up. Rick and Sly were front men IMO and Rick evolved into a complete solo act. Prince is not a front man by any stretch of the imagination. He only ever needs a band for his tours. Lastly, and I know folk won't like this but....PR and UTCM got some of you emotionally attached to the Revolution. I've seen those threads where folk act like Prince wasn't shit without the Revolution.

HotGritz said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

the NPG is a concept not a band like the Revolution

When people say I prefer the NPG isn't that like 10 different variations of session musicians?

That's what I like about them - a concept that can evolve with different members, different styles and looks and different sounds. I love that he changed up musicians while still calling it NPG. To me....the Revolution was like his rock/pop answer to Rick James' Stone City Band or a version of Sly and the Family Stone. Hell throw in James Brown and his band.

Prince is too big for that. He is a solo artist that requires back up. Rick and Sly were front men IMO and Rick evolved into a complete solo act. Prince is not a front man by any stretch of the imagination. He only ever needs a band for his tours. Lastly, and I know folk won't like this but....PR and UTCM got some of you emotionally attached to the Revolution. I've seen those threads where folk act like Prince wasn't shit without the Revolution.

You know what's odd? I always thought those albums were mainly done by Prince. I never called them "Revolution" albums.

Timmy84 said:

HotGritz said:

That's what I like about them - a concept that can evolve with different members, different styles and looks and different sounds. I love that he changed up musicians while still calling it NPG. To me....the Revolution was like his rock/pop answer to Rick James' Stone City Band or a version of Sly and the Family Stone. Hell throw in James Brown and his band.

Prince is too big for that. He is a solo artist that requires back up. Rick and Sly were front men IMO and Rick evolved into a complete solo act. Prince is not a front man by any stretch of the imagination. He only ever needs a band for his tours. Lastly, and I know folk won't like this but....PR and UTCM got some of you emotionally attached to the Revolution. I've seen those threads where folk act like Prince wasn't shit without the Revolution.

You know what's odd? I always thought those albums were mainly done by Prince. I never called them "Revolution" albums.

1999 had the Revolution name on it too

But not true Prince used a lot of the band from 1999 - Parade & Dream Factory/SOTT

I have a Chicago radio interview with Lisa Coleman and she talked a lot abou the creation of PR music, it was a bigger colaboration than people want to think. She said Darling Nikki was all Prince (I love the way she described it) and When Doves Cry

from a 1984 interview

According to writer Jon Bream, Prince recently paid $450,000 for a huge warehouse in the suburbs of Minneapolis where he intends to build an ultramodern recording studio. There he will continue to write and record for himself and others.

Lately he has been letting other band members contribute more to the songwriting and arranging. Lisa and Wendy conducted a string section on three songs from Purple Rain. Sheila E., Apollonia 6 and members of The Revolution have each contributed to the others’ records as well.

“We play a lot together,” Wendy Melvoin explained to Musician magazine about the way The Revolution works. “When we jam we’ll get caught in a groove and, knowing each other’s style so well, we can create a song. That’s how a lot of stuff gets created and arranged. . . He hasn’t tried to tame us down at all, and he’s more willing to accept ideas from each of us.”

[Edited 7/28/11 18:40pm]

OldFriends4Sale said:

SoulAlive said:

million dollar bonuses?! I doubt that Prince was that generous! lol.BrownMark has complained that he was never paid royalties and was offered a paltry sum to do the 'Parade' tour (at a time when Stevie Nicks offered him three times that amount).

lol yeah the Funksterr is starting to look like an A$$, an uneducated one at that

Usually I get dogged out on threads for NOT taking Prince's side on issues. Seriously, I read somewhere no ago that the Revolution had no contracts entitling them to royalties so everything they got was pretty much gifts from Prince. And Prince really wasn't getting paid all that he was really due either, so in the end, the money issues are just the nature of the fame game. The Revolution have been in the business long enough that they should understand that. The best thing to do would be to reunite and go chase a new pot of gold.

OldFriends4Sale said:

Timmy84 said:

You know what's odd? I always thought those albums were mainly done by Prince. I never called them "Revolution" albums.

1999 had the Revolution name on it too

But not true Prince used a lot of the band from 1999 - Parade & Dream Factory/SOTT

I have a Chicago radio interview with Lisa Coleman and she talked a lot abou the creation of PR music, it was a bigger colaboration than people want to think. She said Darling Nikki was all Prince (I love the way she described it) and When Doves Cry

from a 1984 interview

According to writer Jon Bream, Prince recently paid $450,000 for a huge warehouse in the suburbs of Minneapolis where he intends to build an ultramodern recording studio. There he will continue to write and record for himself and others.

Lately he has been letting other band members contribute more to the songwriting and arranging. Lisa and Wendy conducted a string section on three songs from Purple Rain. Sheila E., Apollonia 6 and members of The Revolution have each contributed to the others’ records as well.

“We play a lot together,” Wendy Melvoin explained to Musician magazine about the way The Revolution works. “When we jam we’ll get caught in a groove and, knowing each other’s style so well, we can create a song. That’s how a lot of stuff gets created and arranged. . . He hasn’t tried to tame us down at all, and he’s more willing to accept ideas from each of us.”

[Edited 7/28/11 18:40pm]

So in other words, everything else on Purple Rain was a collaboration between Prince and the Revolution?

Timmy84 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

1999 had the Revolution name on it too

But not true Prince used a lot of the band from 1999 - Parade & Dream Factory/SOTT

I have a Chicago radio interview with Lisa Coleman and she talked a lot abou the creation of PR music, it was a bigger colaboration than people want to think. She said Darling Nikki was all Prince (I love the way she described it) and When Doves Cry

from a 1984 interview

According to writer Jon Bream, Prince recently paid $450,000 for a huge warehouse in the suburbs of Minneapolis where he intends to build an ultramodern recording studio. There he will continue to write and record for himself and others.

Lately he has been letting other band members contribute more to the songwriting and arranging. Lisa and Wendy conducted a string section on three songs from Purple Rain. Sheila E., Apollonia 6 and members of The Revolution have each contributed to the others’ records as well.

“We play a lot together,” Wendy Melvoin explained to Musician magazine about the way The Revolution works. “When we jam we’ll get caught in a groove and, knowing each other’s style so well, we can create a song. That’s how a lot of stuff gets created and arranged. . . He hasn’t tried to tame us down at all, and he’s more willing to accept ideas from each of us.”

So in other words, everything else on Purple Rain was a collaboration between Prince and the Revolution?

Yes, according to Lisa Coleman Prince with the Revolution were shut up in a warehouse studio creating and writing and playing and trying sounds

If he were a smart man he would.

In other words, there is no chance Prince will be reuniting with The Revolution.