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Thread started 06/16/11 2:50pm

blackbob

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best prince album of the 90s ? - the dawn 4.1

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is this the best prince album that never was ?....in my opinion...its a great summing up of some of his best work of the 90s...

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and the artwork isnt bad either.. wink ...whoever it was that did it...many thanks from me ..

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Reply #1 posted 06/16/11 2:52pm

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It's a great boot, very well done.

One that gets played quite a lot in my house.

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Reply #2 posted 06/16/11 3:24pm

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dancing jig love Beautiful cover.

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Reply #3 posted 06/16/11 3:30pm

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Even if the edits/additions are fan-made, this has always been one of the best boots ever.

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Reply #4 posted 06/17/11 9:50am

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vitriol said:

Even if the edits/additions are fan-made, this has always been one of the best boots ever.

Do you know if they are actually fan made?

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Reply #5 posted 06/17/11 9:52am

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InternationalLover82 said:

vitriol said:

Even if the edits/additions are fan-made, this has always been one of the best boots ever.

Do you know if they are actually fan made?

Yes, they definitely are, in fact, the person responsible is a member on this very site.

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Reply #6 posted 06/17/11 9:53am

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TheDigitalGardener said:

InternationalLover82 said:

Do you know if they are actually fan made?

Yes, they definitely are, in fact, the person responsible is a member on this very site.

It's great biggrin

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Reply #7 posted 06/17/11 10:16am

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InternationalLover82 said:

vitriol said:

Even if the edits/additions are fan-made, this has always been one of the best boots ever.

Do you know if they are actually fan made?

Why do you think I said that?

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Reply #8 posted 06/17/11 10:19am

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vitriol said:

InternationalLover82 said:

Do you know if they are actually fan made?

Why do you think I said that?

I know, right?! confused

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Reply #9 posted 06/17/11 10:39am

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vitriol said:

InternationalLover82 said:

Do you know if they are actually fan made?

Why do you think I said that?

Because you said IF they are, not "even though", so I didn't know for sure.

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Reply #10 posted 06/17/11 11:57am

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This is the new standard.

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Reply #11 posted 06/17/11 12:11pm

blackbob

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IMO...this album proves that prince made great music outside the 80s....
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Reply #12 posted 06/17/11 1:27pm

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vitriol said:

Why do you think I said that?

Because you said IF they are, not "even though", so I didn't know for sure.

Damn, you're right (and that means I was wrong. Excuse my English).

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Reply #13 posted 06/17/11 1:56pm

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blackbob said:

IMO...this album proves that prince made great music outside the 80s....

nod It's great to know I was actually alive when he made it lol

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Reply #14 posted 06/17/11 2:21pm

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vitriol said:

Even if the edits/additions are fan-made, this has always been one of the best boots ever.



This above comment could be slightly misleading, the music is all Prince produced. The mix and editing is All by Boris.

I'm sure Boris once posted details of sources used for the set. That may have been on Housequake (Rip).
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Reply #15 posted 06/17/11 2:25pm

Romeoblu

Here's a more in depth rundown of what mixes were used on The Dawn
and where they came from etc...

The Dawn - mixes

disc 1:
01. WELCOME 2 THE DAWN (2:05) – edit of the track available on ‘The Truth’. Used as a kind of ‘Intro’ to the album.
02. npg operator (0:11) – edit of a couple of Operator segues, so it says “Hello, welcome 2 the dawn, playground 4 the new power generation. There are over 500 experiences 2 choose from. Press ‘come’ 2 begin”.
03. COME (PART 1) (4:21) – mix created using the Beautiful Experience remix (Deposition) and the original version (FAAB). Segues into…
04. ENDORPHIN MACHINE (3:50) – taken from the Come original test pressing. Segues into…
05. SPACE (5:10) – mix created using the album version, with small bits from the Universal Love Mix and the Funky Stuff remix. Segues into the crowd intro of…
06. DAYS OF WILD (7:15) – mix created using the released live version on ‘Crystal Ball’ and the guitar solo from one of the AHDIO Shows from NPGMC year 1.
07. npg operator (0:17) – taken from ‘The Gold Experience’
08. THE MOST BEAUTIFUL GIRL IN THE WORLD (4:55) – mix of ‘The Gold Experience’ album version and the unreleased ‘Mustang 96 Remix’ (The Work).
09. THE POPE (4:32) – mix created using the album version from ‘The Hits 2’, the promo only 12” remix, a drum loop from ‘Acknowledge Me’ (barely noticable) and a burst of ‘D.M.S.R.’ from the ‘1999’ album.
10. RIPOPGODAZIPPA (4:37) – taken from ‘Crystal Ball’.
11. npg operator (0:05) – taken from the NPG Operator segue originally used before the studio version of ‘Days Of Wild’ (“If u would like 2 access another experience, here’s how”)
12. RACE (8:20) – mix created using the video version (from the Beautiful Experience TV special) and the ‘Outta Space’ part of the unreleased NPG version of ‘Super Hero’ from the ‘Exodus’ sessions (Fantasia).
13. EMPTY ROOM (3:16) – unreleased track (The Work)
14. npg operator (0:06) – created using the “Please access another experience” part of one of the segues from ‘The Gold Experience’.
15. MAD (4:32) – edit of the unreleased track (Deposition). Segues into…
16. ROCK & ROLL IS ALIVE (4:31) – b-side to ‘Gold’, pitch shifted up a semitone to get it in the right key.
17. SHHH (6:57) – taken from ‘The Gold Experience’. Outro segues into…
18. STRAYS OF THE WORLD (4:41) – edit of the track released on ‘Crystal Ball’ (Drum/fanfare intro ommitted and opening keyboard section extended.)

disc 2:
01. PUSSY CONTROL (5:38) – the VH1 Fashion Awards version (The Work), intro uses a snippet of the released version from ‘The Gold Experience’.
02. npg operator (0:09) – edit of the NPG Operator from ‘Interactive’ and one from ‘The Gold Experience’ (“That was just an example of the many experiences the dawn has 2 offer. There are over 500 experiences 2 choose from, here’s a sample”)
03. PEACH (3:05) – edit of the version from ‘The Hits 2’ mixed with parts of ‘The Purple Medley’. Segues into…
04. CHAOS & DISORDER (4:12) – unreleased original version (FAAB), pitch shifted up to the same key as ‘Peach’ (intro also extended by 1 bar).
05. SHY (4:55) – mix created simply by running the released version from ‘The Gold Experience’ and the unreleased original mix (FAAB) simultaneously.
06. npg operator (0:15) – taken from ‘The Gold Experience’.
07. PHEROMONE (4:27) – taken from ‘Come’, with the addition of a few seconds from the unreleased instrumental version (Cosmos) as an intro.
08. 319 (3:19) – taken from ‘The Gold Experience’, including the ‘hotel lobby’ intro (which is how it was originally intended to appear on the released album, as the intro was specifically created to make the song last exactly 3:19).
09. HIDE THE BONE (5:05) – taken from ‘Crystal Ball’
10. 18 & OVER (6:21) – original unreleased longer version (Fantasia), edited slightly at the end to create an ‘ending’ rather than a fade out.
11. npg operator (0:13) – original unreleased “And now a word from our sponsors” intro.
12. LEMME SEE THAT BODY GET LOOSE (4:31) – remix created using ‘Loose!’ from ‘Come’ and the unreleased instrumental ‘(Lemme See Your Body) Get Loose!’ (Fantasia). (Loosely based on various live renditions from around the time).
13. PAPA (2:48) – taken from ‘Come’
14. npg operator (0:06)
15. BILLY JACK BITCH (7:05) – unreleased ‘full length’ version (The Work).
16. EYE HATE U (8:50) – mix created using ‘The Gold Experience’ version and the ‘Extended Remix’. Outro segues into…
17. LET IT GO (5:29) – taken from ‘Come’, street noises on outro taken from the outro to ‘Lady Cab Driver’ from ‘1999’. Outro used as a segue for…
18. DON’T TALK 2 STRANGERS (3:12) – taken from the ‘Girl 6’ sountrack.

disc 3:
01. INTERACTIVE (3:01) – taken from ‘Crystal Ball’
02. ACKNOWLEDGE ME (6:33) – mix created using the version on ‘Crystal Ball’ and the ‘Big City Remix’ of the NPG’s ‘The Good Life’ (used to make an extended ending which replaces the released version’s fade out using a vocal lifted from ‘All My Dreams’).
03. npg operator (0:09)
04. SOMEBODY’S SOMEBODY (3:41) – the released ‘Livestudio Mix’ (promo / b-side to ‘The Holy River CD single). Segues into street sounds created as an intro to…
05. LOVE SIGN (4:36) – the ‘1-800-NEW-FUNK’ version, edited slightly to create an actual ‘ending’ to the song. (Intro segue features snippet of the unreleased ‘Mack Attack Message Mix’ over street sounds and gunshots taken from various sound effects discs)
06. WHAT’S MY NAME (3:01) – taken from ‘Crystal Ball’, with the addition of the unreleased spoken “welcome 2 the dawn” intro (Deposition).
07. THE RIDE (8:31) – mix created using the version on ‘Crystal Ball’ and the unreleased version from ‘The Undertaker’ album.
08. npg operator (0:19) – taken from ‘The Gold Experience’.
09. NOW (3:59) – taken from ‘The Gold Experience’. Mixes straight into…
10. FACE DOWN (2:10) – remix made using the promo only ‘Acapella Mix’ and loops from ‘Now’. (Musically just a continuation of ‘Now’ with ‘Face Down’s lyrics over the top.)
11. npg operator (0:12) – created using parts of the NPG Operator segue from ‘The Most Beautiful Girl In The World’ layered over itself at various different speeds, to lead into…
12. 2MORROW (4:07) – edit of the ‘Crystal Ball’ track. Uses the acapella intro to ‘Beautiful’ as an intro (with the addition of some echo on the word ‘world’).
13. THE SAME DECEMBER (3:26) – taken from ‘Chaos And Disorder’. Birdsong outro extended slightly using a track from a sound effects disc).
14. EXTRAORDINARY (2:26) – taken from ‘The Vault… Old Friends 4 Sale’. Segues into the opening chords of ‘Dolphin’ which are extended slightly and fade up under the outro.
15. DOLPHIN (6:17) – mix of the released version from ‘The Gold Experience’ and the unreleased version’s outro from ‘The Undertaker’ album. Segues into…
16. COME (PART 2) (9:12) – mix created using an edit of the released version from ‘Come’ and the unreleased (as a whole track) ‘Poem’ from the Come Original test pressing. Segues into…
17. npg operator (0:38) – taken from ‘The Gold Experience’.
18. GOLD (7:22) – taken from ‘The Gold Experience’.

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Reply #16 posted 06/17/11 3:30pm

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Romeoblu said:

Here's a more in depth rundown of what mixes were used on The Dawn and where they came from etc... The Dawn - mixes disc 1: 01. WELCOME 2 THE DAWN (2:05) – edit of the track available on ‘The Truth’. Used as a kind of ‘Intro’ to the album. 02. npg operator (0:11) – edit of a couple of Operator segues, so it says “Hello, welcome 2 the dawn, playground 4 the new power generation. There are over 500 experiences 2 choose from. Press ‘come’ 2 begin”. 03. COME (PART 1) (4:21) – mix created using the Beautiful Experience remix (Deposition) and the original version (FAAB). Segues into… 04. ENDORPHIN MACHINE (3:50) – taken from the Come original test pressing. Segues into… 05. SPACE (5:10) – mix created using the album version, with small bits from the Universal Love Mix and the Funky Stuff remix. Segues into the crowd intro of… 06. DAYS OF WILD (7:15) – mix created using the released live version on ‘Crystal Ball’ and the guitar solo from one of the AHDIO Shows from NPGMC year 1. 07. npg operator (0:17) – taken from ‘The Gold Experience’ 08. THE MOST BEAUTIFUL GIRL IN THE WORLD (4:55) – mix of ‘The Gold Experience’ album version and the unreleased ‘Mustang 96 Remix’ (The Work). 09. THE POPE (4:32) – mix created using the album version from ‘The Hits 2’, the promo only 12” remix, a drum loop from ‘Acknowledge Me’ (barely noticable) and a burst of ‘D.M.S.R.’ from the ‘1999’ album. 10. RIPOPGODAZIPPA (4:37) – taken from ‘Crystal Ball’. 11. npg operator (0:05) – taken from the NPG Operator segue originally used before the studio version of ‘Days Of Wild’ (“If u would like 2 access another experience, here’s how”) 12. RACE (8:20) – mix created using the video version (from the Beautiful Experience TV special) and the ‘Outta Space’ part of the unreleased NPG version of ‘Super Hero’ from the ‘Exodus’ sessions (Fantasia). 13. EMPTY ROOM (3:16) – unreleased track (The Work) 14. npg operator (0:06) – created using the “Please access another experience” part of one of the segues from ‘The Gold Experience’. 15. MAD (4:32) – edit of the unreleased track (Deposition). Segues into… 16. ROCK & ROLL IS ALIVE (4:31) – b-side to ‘Gold’, pitch shifted up a semitone to get it in the right key. 17. SHHH (6:57) – taken from ‘The Gold Experience’. Outro segues into… 18. STRAYS OF THE WORLD (4:41) – edit of the track released on ‘Crystal Ball’ (Drum/fanfare intro ommitted and opening keyboard section extended.) disc 2: 01. PUSSY CONTROL (5:38) – the VH1 Fashion Awards version (The Work), intro uses a snippet of the released version from ‘The Gold Experience’. 02. npg operator (0:09) – edit of the NPG Operator from ‘Interactive’ and one from ‘The Gold Experience’ (“That was just an example of the many experiences the dawn has 2 offer. There are over 500 experiences 2 choose from, here’s a sample”) 03. PEACH (3:05) – edit of the version from ‘The Hits 2’ mixed with parts of ‘The Purple Medley’. Segues into… 04. CHAOS & DISORDER (4:12) – unreleased original version (FAAB), pitch shifted up to the same key as ‘Peach’ (intro also extended by 1 bar). 05. SHY (4:55) – mix created simply by running the released version from ‘The Gold Experience’ and the unreleased original mix (FAAB) simultaneously. 06. npg operator (0:15) – taken from ‘The Gold Experience’. 07. PHEROMONE (4:27) – taken from ‘Come’, with the addition of a few seconds from the unreleased instrumental version (Cosmos) as an intro. 08. 319 (3:19) – taken from ‘The Gold Experience’, including the ‘hotel lobby’ intro (which is how it was originally intended to appear on the released album, as the intro was specifically created to make the song last exactly 3:19). 09. HIDE THE BONE (5:05) – taken from ‘Crystal Ball’ 10. 18 & OVER (6:21) – original unreleased longer version (Fantasia), edited slightly at the end to create an ‘ending’ rather than a fade out. 11. npg operator (0:13) – original unreleased “And now a word from our sponsors” intro. 12. LEMME SEE THAT BODY GET LOOSE (4:31) – remix created using ‘Loose!’ from ‘Come’ and the unreleased instrumental ‘(Lemme See Your Body) Get Loose!’ (Fantasia). (Loosely based on various live renditions from around the time). 13. PAPA (2:48) – taken from ‘Come’ 14. npg operator (0:06) 15. BILLY JACK BITCH (7:05) – unreleased ‘full length’ version (The Work). 16. EYE HATE U (8:50) – mix created using ‘The Gold Experience’ version and the ‘Extended Remix’. Outro segues into… 17. LET IT GO (5:29) – taken from ‘Come’, street noises on outro taken from the outro to ‘Lady Cab Driver’ from ‘1999’. Outro used as a segue for… 18. DON’T TALK 2 STRANGERS (3:12) – taken from the ‘Girl 6’ sountrack. disc 3: 01. INTERACTIVE (3:01) – taken from ‘Crystal Ball’ 02. ACKNOWLEDGE ME (6:33) – mix created using the version on ‘Crystal Ball’ and the ‘Big City Remix’ of the NPG’s ‘The Good Life’ (used to make an extended ending which replaces the released version’s fade out using a vocal lifted from ‘All My Dreams’). 03. npg operator (0:09) 04. SOMEBODY’S SOMEBODY (3:41) – the released ‘Livestudio Mix’ (promo / b-side to ‘The Holy River CD single). Segues into street sounds created as an intro to… 05. LOVE SIGN (4:36) – the ‘1-800-NEW-FUNK’ version, edited slightly to create an actual ‘ending’ to the song. (Intro segue features snippet of the unreleased ‘Mack Attack Message Mix’ over street sounds and gunshots taken from various sound effects discs) 06. WHAT’S MY NAME (3:01) – taken from ‘Crystal Ball’, with the addition of the unreleased spoken “welcome 2 the dawn” intro (Deposition). 07. THE RIDE (8:31) – mix created using the version on ‘Crystal Ball’ and the unreleased version from ‘The Undertaker’ album. 08. npg operator (0:19) – taken from ‘The Gold Experience’. 09. NOW (3:59) – taken from ‘The Gold Experience’. Mixes straight into… 10. FACE DOWN (2:10) – remix made using the promo only ‘Acapella Mix’ and loops from ‘Now’. (Musically just a continuation of ‘Now’ with ‘Face Down’s lyrics over the top.) 11. npg operator (0:12) – created using parts of the NPG Operator segue from ‘The Most Beautiful Girl In The World’ layered over itself at various different speeds, to lead into… 12. 2MORROW (4:07) – edit of the ‘Crystal Ball’ track. Uses the acapella intro to ‘Beautiful’ as an intro (with the addition of some echo on the word ‘world’). 13. THE SAME DECEMBER (3:26) – taken from ‘Chaos And Disorder’. Birdsong outro extended slightly using a track from a sound effects disc). 14. EXTRAORDINARY (2:26) – taken from ‘The Vault… Old Friends 4 Sale’. Segues into the opening chords of ‘Dolphin’ which are extended slightly and fade up under the outro. 15. DOLPHIN (6:17) – mix of the released version from ‘The Gold Experience’ and the unreleased version’s outro from ‘The Undertaker’ album. Segues into… 16. COME (PART 2) (9:12) – mix created using an edit of the released version from ‘Come’ and the unreleased (as a whole track) ‘Poem’ from the Come Original test pressing. Segues into… 17. npg operator (0:38) – taken from ‘The Gold Experience’. 18. GOLD (7:22) – taken from ‘The Gold Experience’. . I found it

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Reply #17 posted 06/17/11 3:35pm

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InternationalLover82 said:

blackbob said:

IMO...this album proves that prince made great music outside the 80s....

nod It's great to know I was actually alive when he made it lol

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hey cheeky.... smile ...me and the rest of the old crew on here can still still funk it up when we want to ...

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just not as much... grandpa

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Reply #18 posted 06/18/11 9:41am

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blackbob said:

InternationalLover82 said:

nod It's great to know I was actually alive when he made it lol

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hey cheeky.... smile ...me and the rest of the old crew on here can still still funk it up when we want to ...

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just not as much... grandpa

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biggrin

lol I'm sure you still can wink

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Reply #19 posted 06/20/11 9:13pm

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"i'm arriving!|" sorry, is this a private thread?

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Reply #20 posted 06/21/11 12:19am

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I should give this another spin. I always want to do my own version since I'm never happy about the track flow or order, but damned if I'm that skilled to splice all this stuff together this way, it's really genius stuff. cool

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Reply #21 posted 06/21/11 1:06pm

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I think Act 1 is the best. Days of Wild! Empty Room! love music

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Reply #22 posted 06/22/11 7:11pm

DaveG

Wow... You're not kidding.. I'm not a big fan of this era of Prince's music, but this collection is dope...

Much better as a whole than any other full album he released in the 90's. Very thoughtfully put together.

Are these NPGMusicClub remixes???? Most of these tracks are definitely not the album versions...

[Edited 6/22/11 19:42pm]

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Reply #23 posted 06/22/11 7:45pm

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TheDigitalGardener said:

It's a great boot, very well done.

One that gets played quite a lot in my house.

yeahthat

Its one of the very few boots that I can say with confidence gets listened to a few times a year.

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Reply #24 posted 06/22/11 8:53pm

802

Bootlegs shouldn't count as real studio albums.

Best Prince album of the 90's - prince

Best prince album - The Gold Experience (although could have been a lot better)

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