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HatrinaHaterwitz said:

What SHOULD Prince sound like today?

Since everybody constantly says that Prince isn't living up to his "potential", What should he sound like today?

The greatest musical artist that's ever lived! Bar none!

What sound should he re-visit & update? What genre's should he mix together to make a "new" sound? What thinketh you?

I thinketh if he was following the path that led him to his greatness, in the first place. He wouldn't have to re-visit, update, nor mix any genres together to make a "new" sound!

He didn't have to do that before...did he?

Or is there something missing from the equation...that is not Prince?

Oh my!

Not one single rebuttal?

Either I'm purposely being ignored or I'm right.

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

I thinketh if he was following the path that led him to his greatness, in the first place. He wouldn't have to re-visit, update, nor mix any genres together to make a "new" sound!

He didn't have to do that before...did he?

Or is there something missing from the equation...that is not Prince?

Oh my!

Not one single rebuttal?

Either I'm purposely being ignored or I'm right.

Are you alluding to the theory that Prince was kidnapped in the 1990s and replaced by some kind of alien clone?

electricberet said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Oh my!

Not one single rebuttal?

Either I'm purposely being ignored or I'm right.

Are you alluding to the theory that Prince was kidnapped in the 1990s and replaced by some kind of alien clone?

No! Because when that "theory" is something that I want to touch on. I have not one single problem...touching on it...for ALL to see. Whomever...they may be!

I think what's missing from the equation is someone in Prince's inner circle who would have the guts to tell him straight up when he's making lousy music or generally stupid decisions. Somebody like the character who managed the club in the Purple Rain movie. There may be people like that in Prince's world but I expect they don't stay in the inner circle for long. Back in the 1980s, he had to listen to industry executives because he couldn't release his music without their approval. But now he's a living legend, so he doesn't have to listen to anyone who criticizes him.

Paul McCartney recorded an album called "Chaos and Creation in the Backyard" a few years ago. He brought in Nigel Godrich as a producer. To Sir Paul's great surprise, Nigel gave him honest criticism instead of just being a sycophant. He forced Paul to actually put on his A-game instead of phoning it in like he often does. The result was a great album that people may look at as a masterpiece at some point, although it gets lumped in now with a lot of mediocre stuff.

Prince sounds alright today and he sounded alright back in the 80's, 90's, 00's too. Some of the music today is filler and some of the music back then was filler. I don't believe Prince goes into a studio to create filler type songs but that's the nature of making music. Some of the songs will catch on to a greater audience than others. Some songs have a life of they're own without being 'proper singles' such as 'Adore'. The people guiding the music industry today should never be allowed near Prince because they already overlooked and mishandled too much of what could have been good music by talented musicians (Van Hunt comes to mind). Prince is doing fine on his own and I like that he jams with those he respects as opposed to 'who's hot at the moment'. In case anyone is noticing dude has excellent taste in music and appreciates true talents that otherwise wouldn't get press otherwise.

gunner82 said:

Since everybody constantly says that Prince isn't living up to his "potential", What should he sound like today? What sound should he re-visit & update? What genre's should he mix together to make a "new" sound? What thinketh you?

Really, just let the man do what he wants. Every brilliant musical artist is given a cap of about ten years of greatness before fading out of the spotlight. Prince gave us Dirty Mind all the way to Lovesexy, I'm satisfied with that alone. You've got the albums, who cares how much other people like him?

Shockedelicus said:

Really, just let the man do what he wants. Every brilliant musical artist is given a cap of about ten years of greatness before fading out of the spotlight. Prince gave us Dirty Mind all the way to Lovesexy, I'm satisfied with that alone. You've got the albums, who cares how much other people like him?

You say that as if this discussion will somehow lead him to do something different. He will do what he wants no matter what we say. We might as well be writing letters to Santa Claus. But it's a way to pass the time.

Shockedelicus said:

gunner82 said:

Since everybody constantly says that Prince isn't living up to his "potential", What should he sound like today? What sound should he re-visit & update? What genre's should he mix together to make a "new" sound? What thinketh you?

Really, just let the man do what he wants. Every brilliant musical artist is given a cap of about ten years of greatness before fading out of the spotlight. Prince gave us Dirty Mind all the way to Lovesexy, I'm satisfied with that alone. You've got the albums, who cares how much other people like him?

Exactly! I got my copy of 20Ten and could've cared less if anybody else on the planet heard it or not. It didn't matter to me in 1984 and it doesn't matter to me in 2011. A lot of ORG members seem to want Prince to be adored and followed by millions of people whenever he does something. They need validation for their still being a fan of his music.

HonestMan13 said:

Shockedelicus said:

Really, just let the man do what he wants. Every brilliant musical artist is given a cap of about ten years of greatness before fading out of the spotlight. Prince gave us Dirty Mind all the way to Lovesexy, I'm satisfied with that alone. You've got the albums, who cares how much other people like him?

Exactly! I got my copy of 20Ten and could've cared less if anybody else on the planet heard it or not. It didn't matter to me in 1984 and it doesn't matter to me in 2011. A lot of ORG members seem to want Prince to be adored and followed by millions of people whenever he does something. They need validation for their still being a fan of his music.

If you're happy with 20Ten, that's great. Personally, I'd like to hear better versions of his classic albums and the unreleased material from the same period. If you have the key to Prince's vault, please open it for me and send me those tapes, and I'll stop complaining. Otherwise, I don't see how we will get the vault open unless someone offers Prince a ton of money, and where is that money going to come from if only a few diehards want to pay for his music?

electricberet said:

HonestMan13 said:

Exactly! I got my copy of 20Ten and could've cared less if anybody else on the planet heard it or not. It didn't matter to me in 1984 and it doesn't matter to me in 2011. A lot of ORG members seem to want Prince to be adored and followed by millions of people whenever he does something. They need validation for their still being a fan of his music.

If you're happy with 20Ten, that's great. Personally, I'd like to hear better versions of his classic albums and the unreleased material from the same period. If you have the key to Prince's vault, please open it for me and send me those tapes, and I'll stop complaining. Otherwise, I don't see how we will get the vault open unless someone offers Prince a ton of money, and where is that money going to come from if only a few diehards want to pay for his music?

So pretty much it's all about outtakes to you huh.....

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

electricberet said:

Are you alluding to the theory that Prince was kidnapped in the 1990s and replaced by some kind of alien clone?

No! Because when that "theory" is something that I want to touch on. I have not one single problem...touching on it...for ALL to see. Whomever...they may be!

Your theory is stupid to me. Which is why I ignored it.....unless you have proof.......do ya?

gunner82 said:

electricberet said:

If you're happy with 20Ten, that's great. Personally, I'd like to hear better versions of his classic albums and the unreleased material from the same period. If you have the key to Prince's vault, please open it for me and send me those tapes, and I'll stop complaining. Otherwise, I don't see how we will get the vault open unless someone offers Prince a ton of money, and where is that money going to come from if only a few diehards want to pay for his music?

So pretty much it's all about outtakes to you huh.....

It seem like it's all about better sound quality of songs we've all had for decades now.

I just wish he would make something that sounded like he had fun making it.

Spinlight said:

I just wish he would make something that sounded like he had fun making it.

What if he was having fun making all of his last albums? I mean, it's not like anyone is controlling him, right? [kind of makes me think about a certain..........um.....group]

gunner82 said:

Spinlight said:

I just wish he would make something that sounded like he had fun making it.

What if he was having fun making all of his last albums? I mean, it's not like anyone is controlling him, right? [kind of makes me think about a certain..........um.....group]

Those albums don't sound very fun. They aren't inventive. They aren't experimental. With some albums of his where he was testing out new sounds and new tricks, you could really vibe with it. 1999 is one of those kinds of albums. So is Rainbow Children.

He shouldn't sound like nothing but himself I guess. He seems real bored with the music business at the moment...

Spinlight said:

gunner82 said:

What if he was having fun making all of his last albums? I mean, it's not like anyone is controlling him, right? [kind of makes me think about a certain..........um.....group]

Those albums don't sound very fun. They aren't inventive. They aren't experimental. With some albums of his where he was testing out new sounds and new tricks, you could really vibe with it. 1999 is one of those kinds of albums. So is Rainbow Children.

Since when did fun equal inventive & experimental? How do we know what Prince is thinking while making music? '1999' could have been a pain in the ass to make if you think about it.....[IF he was having fun making TRC, I'm not sure I want to hear another overly bloated horror-gospel album again]

gunner82 said:

Spinlight said:

Those albums don't sound very fun. They aren't inventive. They aren't experimental. With some albums of his where he was testing out new sounds and new tricks, you could really vibe with it. 1999 is one of those kinds of albums. So is Rainbow Children.

Since when did fun equal inventive & experimental? How do we know what Prince is thinking while making music? '1999' could have been a pain in the ass to make if you think about it.....[IF he was having fun making TRC, I'm not sure I want to hear another overly bloated horror-gospel album again]

hey, I'm just speaking my lowly opinion. Certain albums have a more aggressive tone to them where you can tell he's getting into it. I think "Disco Jellyfish" is a song that is clear he is having fun on it. Too bad he ruined it with lyrics. To me, most of MPLSound is just doing it to do it. You can feel it in the stale theme. Even the best songs on there are still kinda canned feeling.

And really, it's not possible to have a bad time while singing songs with lyrics like "I wanna fuck the taste out of your mouth." That record exudes fun to me.

Shockedelicus said:

Really, just let the man do what he wants. Every brilliant musical artist is given a cap of about ten years of greatness before fading out of the spotlight. Prince gave us Dirty Mind all the way to Lovesexy, I'm satisfied with that alone. You've got the albums, who cares how much other people like him?

That's just an evasive way of saying everything after 88 is crap - You're such a negative hater, you can't judge music until you're a musician yourself, why are you even still listening if you don't like anything in 20 years, and so forth.....

HonestMan13 said:

gunner82 said:

So pretty much it's all about outtakes to you huh.....

It seem like it's all about better sound quality of songs we've all had for decades now.

It's about both. Don't get me wrong: I'd like to hear good new music from Prince as much as anyone. I've listened to every one of his new albums and given them a fair chance. But I haven't heard much that I found exciting and stuck with me apart from a few tracks here and there. I think it's more likely that we will hear great new music come out of new artists than we will hear it coming from a musician who has been a superstar for decades and has nothing more to prove.

As to the outtakes and "songs we've all had for decades now," wouldn't you like to have them in better sound quality? If not, that's okay. You don't have to buy the remasters. There are plenty of us who will.

[Edited 4/25/11 2:29am]

I like him as is. I do wish I was old enough to attend concerts when he was performing in cut-out booty outfits and underwear.

gunner82 said:

Since everybody constantly says that Prince isn't living up to his "potential", What should he sound like today? What sound should he re-visit & update? What genre's should he mix together to make a "new" sound? What thinketh you?

He's doing everything 'he' wants to do and I have no problem with that. To answer your question, he should sound like 'him' ...

electricberet said:

HonestMan13 said:

It seem like it's all about better sound quality of songs we've all had for decades now.

It's about both. Don't get me wrong: I'd like to hear good new music from Prince as much as anyone. I've listened to every one of his new albums and given them a fair chance. But I haven't heard much that I found exciting and stuck with me apart from a few tracks here and there. I think it's more likely that we will hear great new music come out of new artists than we will hear it coming from a musician who has been a superstar for decades and has nothing more to prove.

As to the outtakes and "songs we've all had for decades now," wouldn't you like to have them in better sound quality? If not, that's okay. You don't have to buy the remasters. There are plenty of us who will.

[Edited 4/25/11 2:29am]

When they become available to Prince to do so and he expresses interest in doing them let me know. Until then I have the music already. It's not that pressing an issue for me. It's compleist thing if they become available. Unless there's new tracks on them they offer nothing of value but as collectors items to me.

HonestMan13 said:

electricberet said:

It's about both. Don't get me wrong: I'd like to hear good new music from Prince as much as anyone. I've listened to every one of his new albums and given them a fair chance. But I haven't heard much that I found exciting and stuck with me apart from a few tracks here and there. I think it's more likely that we will hear great new music come out of new artists than we will hear it coming from a musician who has been a superstar for decades and has nothing more to prove.

As to the outtakes and "songs we've all had for decades now," wouldn't you like to have them in better sound quality? If not, that's okay. You don't have to buy the remasters. There are plenty of us who will.

[Edited 4/25/11 2:29am]

When they become available to Prince to do so and he expresses interest in doing them let me know. Until then I have the music already. It's not that pressing an issue for me. It's compleist thing if they become available. Unless there's new tracks on them they offer nothing of value but as collectors items to me.

To each his own. Getting Prince remasters isn't a pressing issue for me either in the grand scheme of things. But it's the only thing I want from Prince at this point. I don't particularly value his new releases, and the last time I bought a concert ticket to see him, he cancelled on the day of the show. You can jam to Prince's next new album or go watch him in concert, and I'll wait to see if I ever get any remasters or material from the vault. Life goes on either way.

NouveauDance said:

Prince should sound like it's 1984 again. I want thick synths, searing guitar solos, Linn drum patterns, Wendy & Lisa EVERYWHERE and Dr. Fink synth solos. I want purple glitter and ruffles.

That's what you wanted someone to say right?

I knew someone would say it...

That sound to me is so futuristic, I barely touched on that music/sound before switching.

It was so electric

Give me a combo of serious New Wave w/Purple Rain/ATWIAD Parade & Rainbow Children

Prince's sound is stale... what happened to when Prince said when you look back on his full career the albums will show a range.

that was the case for awhile, but since the 2000's its just rehashed sometimes better versions of the stuff from the past. BUT its not new.

I want a grunge album , a metal album.. a pink floyd type album, classic rock album...

ElectricBlue said:

Prince's sound is stale... what happened to when Prince said when you look back on his full career the albums will show a range.

that was the case for awhile, but since the 2000's its just rehashed sometimes better versions of the stuff from the past. BUT its not new.

I want a grunge album , a metal album.. a pink floyd type album, classic rock album...

Keep dreaming, he would never have even thought about thinking about grunge, let alone metal. Seriously, Prince and metal? As far as Floyd or classic rock, you've got Lotusflow3r and Chaos'. He's a pop singer!

OldFriends4Sale said:

I knew someone would say it...

That sound to me is so futuristic, I barely touched on that music/sound before switching.

It was so electric

You know I was joking though right!