Some of you don't even know what you're talking about.

OldFriends4Sale said:

silkylee said:

THE ORIGINAL EGYPTIANS WERE BLACK. THE REAL NAME OF EGYPT WAS KEMET, WHICH MEANS THE LAND OF THE BLACK AND BURNT SKINNED PEOPLE. STUDY THEIR ART, PAINTINGS AND THE KEBRANEGAST BEFORE THEY WERE INVADED BY THE GREEKS. THE REASON THAT THEY ARE LIGHT SKINNED TODAY IS BECAUSE THE GREEKS AND THE ROMANS INVADED THEIR LAND. THEY ENSLAVED THE MEN AND RAPED THE WOMEN TO PRODUCE THE LIGHTER HUE EGYPTIAN TODAY.

LOL are you for real? Your mind is so infused with our centuries RACIST ideas of Blacks being inferior that you combined American Trans Atlantic Slavery with Egypt?

Are "blacks" always enslaved and raped??

No a lot of the 'lighter skinned' Egyptians as you call it are not even originally Egyptian they are Arabs/Middle Easterns.

Greeks & Romans INVADED and RAPED the NUBIANs of Egypt?? Are you kidding me, and you say I know nothing of African history?? Egypt was the center of civilization in that part of the world (the Orient had their vast wisdom and civilization too) so Egypt wasn't IT.

Greeks, Middle Easterns, Nubians, Ethiopians, Hebrews traded with Egypt. Greeks Middle Easterns, Nubians, Ethiopians & Hebrews were enslaved by Egyptians. Your racist mind is warped to reverse the story lol

In trading and commerce of course ethnic mixing takes place because there was no problem. When Rome became a world power the same thing happened. Roman had Egypt as an ally at times,, Not enslaved. Cleopatra was a Greek, Mark Athony didn't enslave Egypt...

your way off in your history son

I realize what I'm arguing with, Oldfriendsforsale is off his rockers and can't accept color. It's a new world. Our numbers as Europeans are declining and he can't see that. So, there's no use going back and forward with this attention misinformation hog. I'm a progressive White male and I can truly see how frustrating it is for African Americans in America when they have to deal with this mind skull full of rhetoric, lies and pure garbage. There's a lyric in Love Sign where Prince mentions, "reperations for the acts." I agree with P. Oldfriendsforsale needs to be educated. He should'nt even be on this site if he has issues with acknowledging African Americans.

Let's Give This A Rest. Ignorance Has No Degree, especially with quasi intellectuals . . .

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HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Spinlight said:

Are you black?

Answer my question, then I'll answer yours.

Frankly, I'm over this thread because you have an axe to grind. I've never really had a disagreement with you, but you coming out the gate acting like you lost your mind doesn't encourage any sweet feelings on my end.

And people do have one good concept running through this thread and that is that racism is a bitch and it appears everyone handles it differently. You say that because Sheila's mom is of Creole descent, Sheila is black. Well that's wonderful. Good for you.

I respectfully disagree.

Spinlight said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Answer my question, then I'll answer yours.

Frankly, I'm over this thread because you have an axe to grind. I've never really had a disagreement with you, but you coming out the gate acting like you lost your mind doesn't encourage any sweet feelings on my end.

And people do have one good concept running through this thread and that is that racism is a bitch and it appears everyone handles it differently. You say that because Sheila's mom is of Creole descent, Sheila is black. Well that's wonderful. Good for you.

I respectfully disagree.

1. What axes do I have to grind on this thread? I honestly have no idea, what you are talking about with that. When I have an axe to grind, I have not one problem identifying...flat out...where it will be put...nor why!

2. You are correct...in the fact that you and I have never really had a disagreement. However, there's a first time for everything!

3. I'm not acting like I've lost my mind because I haven't! If what I'm putting down "doesn't encourage any sweet feelings on your end." That's your problem...not mine!

4. I haven't said one word about Sheila E's mother! I've only addressed how Sheila E identifies HERSELF.

5. I say..."Sheila E is Black". Damn right...that's wonderful!

Now...ANSWER my question!

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

So seriously...why is Sheila E being Black so fucking hard for you to accept?

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[Edited 2/17/11 22:19pm]

I understand Sheila identifies heavily with the black community because she grew up in Oakland and her mother is Creole.

Sheila herself has never, to my knowledge, stated that she was black. In fact, confusion about her actual heritage is a constant theme in the prince fan community. Again, you believe that her mother being Creole (hence where she gets any form of "black" heritage) enables her to be considered African American. That's wonderful. I disagree.

It would not be difficult to accept that Sheila E was black if she were black. But she claims her Latina heritage just as much if not moreso than any black heritage she has. You telling me about her being on a show about black history isn't shocking to me. Who wouldn't celebrate black history if you've grown up in an area with predominately black people, your career has involved COUNTLESS black artists, and the black community embraces you regardless of how much black is in you? This isn't a difficult concept. Sheila HAS consistently stated she is of mixed heritage and that she could be, in her words, described as a "mutt."

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Spinlight said:

1. What axes do I have to grind on this thread? I honestly have no idea, what you are talking about with that. When I have an axe to grind, I have not one problem identifying...flat out...where it will be put...nor why!

2. You are correct...in the fact that you and I have never really had a disagreement. There's a first time for everything!

3. I'm not acting like I've lost my mind because I haven't! If what I'm putting down "doesn't encourage any sweet feelings on your end." That's your problem...not mine!

4. I haven't said one word about Sheila E's mother! I've only addressed how Sheila E identifies HERSELF.

5. "Sheila E is Black". Damn right...that's wonderful!

Now...ANSWER my question!

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

So seriously...why is Sheila E being Black so fucking hard for you to accept?

.

[Edited 2/17/11 22:04pm]

I had this very conversation a few months back on the org and some orgers had some very valid points.

Culture, nationality and race can be very different things. You can be a citiizen of Mexico... and therefore Mexican, and living in Mexico, have the culture of Mexicans.. (food, music, traditions) yet still be of black descent.

Like someone said... Africans were dropped off not only in North America but also in Central and South America and the Carribean islands.

At some point, those Africans in South America intermixed with the people of Spanish descent and adopted the culture, and family name. Soon, Mexico and its culture has more meaning than a place never visited, Africa.

So I guess the question is... if you LOOK of African descent, but have a latino family name, was raised in latino culture, etc.... are you black? Latino?

I have heard the phrase "Hispanic, not of african descent"... so I guess one can assume there must be a group of people who ARE Hispanic and are of African descent.

I think Sheila is multiracial... and black is one of those races... just like Vanity, Troy, Mani, Jill Jones, Susan Moonsie (who it appears to me was another Black Hispanic... didn't she come from Trinidad?)

Speaking of Trinidad... I work with a woman who is from Trinidad. She looks black, but she has the accent of spanish/carribean island. She looks like Cora from MTV Real World.

Trinidad is 7 miles from Venezuela...Anyone who says they are from Venezuela would automatically be classified as Latino/hispanic right? But I am telling you, this woman would NOT be identified as anything BUT Black... until you hear her speak.

I think Sheila has a lot of physical features that resemble African American. And I am not speaking of hair texture or skin tone... because really, "Black" people really do come in all shades.

Spinlight said:

I understand Sheila identifies heavily with the black community because she grew up in Oakland and her mother is Creole.

Sheila herself has never, to my knowledge, stated that she was black. In fact, confusion about her actual heritage is a constant theme in the prince fan community. Again, you believe that her mother being Creole (hence where she gets any form of "black" heritage) enables her to be considered African American. That's wonderful. I disagree.

It would not be difficult to accept that Sheila E was black if she were black. But she claims her Latina heritage just as much if not moreso than any black heritage she has. You telling me about her being on a show about black history isn't shocking to me. Who wouldn't celebrate black history if you've grown up in an area with predominately black people, your career has involved COUNTLESS black artists, and the black community embraces you regardless of how much black is in you? This isn't a difficult concept. Sheila HAS consistently stated she is of mixed heritage and that she could be, in her words, described as a "mutt."

I am very much Black, to answer your previous question.

1. My children grew up in the prodominately White community of Berkley, MI. Which is...in fact...historically...the birthplace of the State of Michigan's KKK. Take a wild guess...if my children identify...heavily with the White community because that's where they grew up and my great-grandfather on my father's side was indeed and in fact...White.

2. As I stated earlier...no one said she was just Black. There are not very many African-Americans, with lineage in this country...that goes back futher than a generation that actually are!

3. Apparently, Sheila E being Black...IS a difficult concept! Or you and I wouldn't be having this conversation...now would we?

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Spinlight said:

I understand Sheila identifies heavily with the black community because she grew up in Oakland and her mother is Creole.

Sheila herself has never, to my knowledge, stated that she was black. In fact, confusion about her actual heritage is a constant theme in the prince fan community. Again, you believe that her mother being Creole (hence where she gets any form of "black" heritage) enables her to be considered African American. That's wonderful. I disagree.

It would not be difficult to accept that Sheila E was black if she were black. But she claims her Latina heritage just as much if not moreso than any black heritage she has. You telling me about her being on a show about black history isn't shocking to me. Who wouldn't celebrate black history if you've grown up in an area with predominately black people, your career has involved COUNTLESS black artists, and the black community embraces you regardless of how much black is in you? This isn't a difficult concept. Sheila HAS consistently stated she is of mixed heritage and that she could be, in her words, described as a "mutt."

I am very much Black, to answer your previous question.

1. My children grew up in the prodominately White community of Berkley, MI. Which is...in fact...historically...the birthplace of the State of Michigan's KKK. Take a wild guess...if my children identify...heavily with the White community because that's where they grew up and my great-grandfather on my father's side was indeed and in fact...White.

2. As I stated earlier...no one said she was just Black. There are not very many African-Americans, with lineage in this country...that goes back futher than a generation that actually are!

3. Apparently, Sheila E being Black...IS a difficult concept! Or you and I wouldn't be having this conversation...now would we?

That's some murky water you're treading in.

We all come from the same apes.

Spinlight said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

I am very much Black, to answer your previous question.

1. My children grew up in the prodominately White community of Berkley, MI. Which is...in fact...historically...the birthplace of the State of Michigan's KKK. Take a wild guess...if my children identify...heavily with the White community because that's where they grew up and my great-grandfather on my father's side was indeed and in fact...White.

2. As I stated earlier...no one said she was just Black. There are not very many African-Americans, with lineage in this country...that goes back futher than a generation that actually are!

3. Apparently, Sheila E being Black...IS a difficult concept! Or you and I wouldn't be having this conversation...now would we?

That's some murky water you're treading in.

We all come from the same apes.

Exactly...what's "murky" about it...to you? It's pretty damn clear from the viewpoint, I'm standing in it.

Wikipedia mentions that they were "rumored to be romantically involved in late 2010". I tend to believe Wikipedia ... Plus he does drag that poor girl around like it's 2006 and she's a chihuahua.

Spinlight said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

I am very much Black, to answer your previous question.

1. My children grew up in the prodominately White community of Berkley, MI. Which is...in fact...historically...the birthplace of the State of Michigan's KKK. Take a wild guess...if my children identify...heavily with the White community because that's where they grew up and my great-grandfather on my father's side was indeed and in fact...White.

2. As I stated earlier...no one said she was just Black. There are not very many African-Americans, with lineage in this country...that goes back futher than a generation that actually are!

3. Apparently, Sheila E being Black...IS a difficult concept! Or you and I wouldn't be having this conversation...now would we?

That's some murky water you're treading in.

We all come from the same apes.

Being Black or White is a state of mind and consciousness. I'm White, practically an Anglophile,

but I can truly identify with African American values and culture. Black women are beautiful and

I really enjoy Black culture, art, history and music. People tend to go where they are accepted. Over

the years, I realize that Blacks accept me without any prejudice. A lot of my White neighbors, family

members and co-workers are some of the most racist bastards I've ever seen. Sheila has been totally

embrased by the Black community. She's been in Ebony, Jet and Essence Magazine, Video Soul, BET

many times and on Soul Train. How many Mexicans have you seen in these venues? Recently she was

interviewed on a Black program called Way Black When (google).

[Edited 2/17/11 23:57pm]

jason7sh said:

Spinlight said:

That's some murky water you're treading in.

We all come from the same apes.

Being Black or White is a state of mind and consciousness. I'm White, practically an Anglophile,

but I can truly identify with African American values and culture. Black women are beautiful and

I really enjoy Black culture, art, history and music. People tend to go where they are accepted. Over

the years, I realize that Blacks accept me without any prejudice. A lot of my White neighbors, family

members and co-workers are some of the most racist bastards I've ever seen. Sheila has been totally

embrased by the Black community. She's been in Ebony, Jet and Essence Magazine, Video Soul, BET

many times and on Soul Train. How many Mexicans have you seen in these venues? Recently she was

interviewed on a Black program called Way Black When (google).

[Edited 2/17/11 23:57pm]

I watched the Way Black When program and I dug it. I have always admired Sheila E.

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

DaphneLovesPR1NCE said:

Sheila E is about as much a "sista" as this chick is. Sheila is biracial, as is this chick. She ain't no different than any of other Prince's other women, she is not exactly a "sista." So she fits the same category as Prince's other women. Troy Beyer, Vanity, etc.

News Flash dear...if you are just talking about "Sista"hood...you don't have to be 100% Black to be a Sista. As the late, great Teena Marie proved, you don't actually have to be Black, at all!

However, if you are talking about heritage...the percentage of Blackness doesn't matter either. Especially, in the United States of America because no matter the percentage...if there is a percentage...as history has proven over and over and over and over and over and over and over...again...you're Black! Just ask Tiger Woods.

Sure sista hood can mean whatever people want it to mean..but its generally accepted as to mean black. Kind of like "brotha" is meant to refer to a black man.

And you can suscribe to the racist one drop rule all you want, I'm not. People don't have to forget/deny the other part of them b/c of ignorant people wanting to push them into the black community. There is no pride in that in 2011. People should stand up and be proud of ALL of /whowhat they are..not just a {black}part.

Spinlight said:

jason7sh said:

Being Black or White is a state of mind and consciousness. I'm White, practically an Anglophile,

but I can truly identify with African American values and culture. Black women are beautiful and

I really enjoy Black culture, art, history and music. People tend to go where they are accepted. Over

the years, I realize that Blacks accept me without any prejudice. A lot of my White neighbors, family

members and co-workers are some of the most racist bastards I've ever seen. Sheila has been totally

embrased by the Black community. She's been in Ebony, Jet and Essence Magazine, Video Soul, BET

many times and on Soul Train. How many Mexicans have you seen in these venues? Recently she was

interviewed on a Black program called Way Black When (google).

[Edited 2/17/11 23:57pm]

I watched the Way Black When program and I dug it. I have always admired Sheila E.

Really? Are you Black?

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Spinlight said:

I watched the Way Black When program and I dug it. I have always admired Sheila E.

Really? Are you Black?

Sheila has better Black credentials than Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas. Think about it.

JoeTyler said:

irinact said:

I love the looks of all Prince's women, they are very beautiful and exotic looking. It's hard to choose only one from them. He is a lucky man, can have the most prettiest women in this planet.

haaaaaaaaa!

NO

in fact, "his" prettiest girlfriends left him (Basinger, Electra, etc)

Them hoes is not all that.

DaphneLovesPR1NCE said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

News Flash dear...if you are just talking about "Sista"hood...you don't have to be 100% Black to be a Sista. As the late, great Teena Marie proved, you don't actually have to be Black, at all!

However, if you are talking about heritage...the percentage of Blackness doesn't matter either. Especially, in the United States of America because no matter the percentage...if there is a percentage...as history has proven over and over and over and over and over and over and over...again...you're Black! Just ask Tiger Woods.

Sure sista hood can mean whatever people want it to mean..but its generally accepted as to mean black. Kind of like "brotha" is meant to refer to a black man.

And you can suscribe to the racist one drop rule all you want, I'm not. People don't have to forget/deny the other part of them b/c of ignorant people wanting to push them into the black community. There is no pride in that in 2011. People should stand up and be proud of ALL of /whowhat they are..not just a {black}part.

1. Spell check and online dictionaries shouldn't be feared!

2. What "Sista-hood" means to anyone else...really matters not in this particular case! What matters is what it means to Sheila E and SHE'S made HER...position on the matter...more than abundantly clear!

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Spinlight said:

I watched the Way Black When program and I dug it. I have always admired Sheila E.

Really? Are you Black?

I am not black, no.

jason7sh said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Really? Are you Black?

Sheila has better Black credentials than Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas. Think about it.

I don't have to think about that.

Former President William Jefferson Clinton has better Black credenitals than that of Supreme Court Justice..."Uncle" Clarence Thomas!

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[Edited 2/18/11 0:32am]

2elijah said:

purplenuts said:

yeah...but she isn't

Purplenuts, this is not specifically directed at you personally, but I think some are getting confused as to what Hatrina may have meant when she said Sheila E has always been "considered" a "sista" within the black community; meaning Sheila E has always been a part of the Black community in the way of her interest/respect for our social concerns, as well as her having many Black American/Black non-American friends and associates. She was present at the Black State of the Union conference, the year Prince did a benefit concert for the SOBU, after the conference, sitting in the audience taking notes, and obviously had an interest in the concerns/opinions/ideas expressed during that conference in regards to the Black community, as a whole. Tavis stated during the opening of that conference, that Prince himself, has always had a vested interest in the social/economic concerns within the Black community.

From what I understand Sheila E's mother is of Creole heritage (black/french), so if Sheila chooses to identify in someway ethnically with that, then that is her personal choice, not ours, as well as Sheila embracing her Mexican heritage from her father's side. I consider Sheila E a Black Latina respectively, embracing all of her heritage and respecting that. Sheila being referenced as a “sista” has absolutely nothing to do with the shade of her skin, but more or less how she has always related/respected/embraced/communicated, etc., with members of the black community over the years, respectively.

[Edited 2/17/11 11:28am]

I totally understand this explanation then. In this perspective...Sheila is a sista then. Just by her being accepted and embracing the Black Community.

On another note, I think this nonsense dividing those within the black community by the "shades of their skin tones," and breaking that down in "percentages" to determine who gets classified to "pass through the Black door or not" is total BS, and is no different than having an "apartheid" mentality.

Those who have no issue defining themselves as Black or African-American, based on their similar/shared cultures/ethnicities/life experiences/ histories etc., among others within that group of many complexions, should not have to be "watered-down" to be "validated or valued" as human beings, when they are already inclusive within the human species.

You do realize that this is just the racist white people's mindset enstilled in the black community right? Saying someone that has a black/white parent and white parent is black is ridiculous and really wrong for them. They should accept who they are and be encouraged to embrace different parts of their heritage...its in THEIR best interest! I believe alot of biracial people feel the need to only identify with their black side b/c a. white may not accept them b. blacks jump all over them if they say they are mixed or biracial. This is a shame, really it is. Its kind of like when a child is adopted from say China and is raised by white parents, the parents are encouraged to teach the child about their Chinese heritage, it will be much better for them in the long run to embrace their heritage, just like blacks are taught to embrace theirs. Everyone should be proud of who they are 100%, not just proud of a part of it. And teaching biracial people to embrace their other side is in no way the black community not loving them as much.

npggirl77 said:

And race matters....why?

It doesn't... but some people bring it up when a certain person, who only seems to date out of their race, finally dates in their race. Its kind of a big deal I guess. It sends the message that this person is not trying to escape their race altogether. I don't know why people act like race isn't an issue, or that its a sin to discuss it. Its not...as long as no one is saying racists things. Its a part of life that is discussed in EVERY country in this world! Differences in us racially is what makes this world beautiful. There is beauty in diversity!

[Moving to P&R]

Spinlight said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Really? Are you Black?

I am not black, no.

Oh!

Yet, you speak with such "authority".

DaphneLovesPR1NCE said:

2elijah said:

I totally understand this explanation then. In this perspective...Sheila is a sista then. Just by her being accepted and embracing the Black Community.

On another note, I think this nonsense dividing those within the black community by the "shades of their skin tones," and breaking that down in "percentages" to determine who gets classified to "pass through the Black door or not" is total BS, and is no different than having an "apartheid" mentality.

Those who have no issue defining themselves as Black or African-American, based on their similar/shared cultures/ethnicities/life experiences/ histories etc., among others within that group of many complexions, should not have to be "watered-down" to be "validated or valued" as human beings, when they are already inclusive within the human species.

You do realize that this is just the racist white people's mindset enstilled in the black community right? Saying someone that has a black/white parent and white parent is black is ridiculous and really wrong for them. They should accept who they are and be encouraged to embrace different parts of their heritage...its in THEIR best interest! I believe alot of biracial people feel the need to only identify with their black side b/c a. white may not accept them b. blacks jump all over them if they say they are mixed or biracial. This is a shame, really it is. Its kind of like when a child is adopted from say China and is raised by white parents, the parents are encouraged to teach the child about their Chinese heritage, it will be much better for them in the long run to embrace their heritage, just like blacks are taught to embrace theirs. Everyone should be proud of who they are 100%, not just proud of a part of it. And teaching biracial people to embrace their other side is in no way the black community not loving them as much.

Umph...I find myself...really wishing...right about now...that Tiger Woods was an Orger.

OldFriends4Sale said:

silkylee said:

THE ORIGINAL EGYPTIANS WERE BLACK. THE REAL NAME OF EGYPT WAS KEMET, WHICH MEANS THE LAND OF THE BLACK AND BURNT SKINNED PEOPLE. STUDY THEIR ART, PAINTINGS AND THE KEBRANEGAST BEFORE THEY WERE INVADED BY THE GREEKS. THE REASON THAT THEY ARE LIGHT SKINNED TODAY IS BECAUSE THE GREEKS AND THE ROMANS INVADED THEIR LAND. THEY ENSLAVED THE MEN AND RAPED THE WOMEN TO PRODUCE THE LIGHTER HUE EGYPTIAN TODAY.

No a lot of the 'lighter skinned' Egyptians as you call it are not even originally Egyptian they are Arabs/Middle Easterns.

Greeks & Romans INVADED and RAPED the NUBIANs of Egypt?? Are you kidding me, and you say I know nothing of African history?? Egypt was the center of civilization in that part of the world (the Orient had their vast wisdom and civilization too) so Egypt wasn't IT.

Greeks, Middle Easterns, Nubians, Ethiopians, Hebrews traded with Egypt. Greeks Middle Easterns, Nubians, Ethiopians & Hebrews were enslaved by Egyptians. Your racist mind is warped to reverse the story lol

In trading and commerce of course ethnic mixing takes place because there was no problem. When Rome became a world power the same thing happened. Roman had Egypt as an ally at times,, Not enslaved. Cleopatra was a Greek, Mark Athony didn't enslave Egypt...

your way off in your history son

Thank you! Someone who actually listened during history class. That's just like some of the African people have "slanted eyes." That comes from the invasion of the asians invading. Same thing happened to the native people of the americas. There are some from latin/south america b/c of the AFRICAN slaves being brought there that mixed with the locals. Latin/South America has people of so many mixtures because of this, but there are some that identify with the natives. Black people need to get out of the mind set that "everyone is black b/c we all come from Africa." That is stupid! We are all different, that is beautiful. I guess my adopted korean cousin should call herself "black" too, afterall, the black community has embraced her and she is being raised by a black parent. Geesh! The Black community can't claim everyone! Others should be allowed to show pride in who they are! If you have a white/other parent, you aren't black, you are biracial/multiracial and should be able to embrace all parts of your heritage and STILL be loved by the black community!

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Spinlight said:

I am not black, no.

Oh!

Yet, you speak with such "authority".

Yeah, I do.

Spinlight said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Oh!

Yet, you speak with such "authority".

Yeah, I do.

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

DaphneLovesPR1NCE said:

Umph...I find myself...really wishing...right about now...that Tiger Woods was an Orger.

And what exactly would that prove? What exactly about Tiger Woods makes his a great example here? Nothing! Show me something and I will change my opinion. But when it comes to him... Robin Thicke has more "black credentials" than Tiger Woods!

jason7sh said:

Spinlight said:

That's some murky water you're treading in.

We all come from the same apes.

Being Black or White is a state of mind and consciousness. I'm White, practically an Anglophile,

but I can truly identify with African American values and culture. Black women are beautiful and

I really enjoy Black culture, art, history and music. People tend to go where they are accepted. Over

the years, I realize that Blacks accept me without any prejudice. A lot of my White neighbors, family

members and co-workers are some of the most racist bastards I've ever seen. Sheila has been totally

embrased by the Black community. She's been in Ebony, Jet and Essence Magazine, Video Soul, BET

many times and on Soul Train. How many Mexicans have you seen in these venues? Recently she was

interviewed on a Black program called Way Black When (google).

[Edited 2/17/11 23:57pm]

There are many non black women who have been featured in those magazines, including Lisa Marie Presley, Jennifer Lopez, and Gloria Estefan. Justin Beiber's name pops up all the time on "black channels," so does Robin Thicke, John B, Paul Wall. Has nothing to do with them being "brothas!"

And Jamie Foxx performed a country song on CMT on a show celebrating country music legend George Straight, does this now mean that we can call Jaime Foxx white? Darius Rucker pops up on CMT about once every 20 mins and appears on many shows on this channel and other related to country music, does that make him white? Or part of the white community? Didn't think so.. And if he did, the black community would have a fit!

I remember this one episode of Tyra that had a mixed girl on there that looked black that identified with white only. The blacks in the audience were throwing a fit! Why? Its fine for a mixed person with fair skin to be black but not the other way around? Ha!