Spinlight said:

gotda411 said:

Like I said in another forum, Misty equals Manuela. It's really weird as Misty has boyish looks if you really look closely at the lower photos. I must say if Prince dates someone who was not a dancer and more of a real woman he would look smarter. But not sure if he will learn this in this lifetime as I think he is going to follow in Hefner's footsteps which is just plain sad.

I felt the same, that Misty has kind of boyish looks. Especially in the pic from behind, something about her mouth and nose is very uh... Eddie Murphy or something.

I'm sooooo tired of all this race talk crap!!!! get over it who the hell cares !!! everybody has a preference ..u like what u like that's ur taste !!!! come on ppl it doesn't matter what color u are black white purple brown or blue WE'RE ALL THE SAME!!!!!!! we all bleed the same ...we are free to date and love whoever we want !!! just b/c ur black or white or latino or asian .... doesn't mean u have to stick only within ur race... why is it (speaking as a black woman) so many black ppl make a big issue when they see a black man who dates outside their race???.. .." y he can't get with a black woman what wrong w/ the sista's? ..." if a white man who only dates black women nobody cares it's not an issue but when it's the other hand then it's .. what the hell !! ..black men are not a commodity !! if prince wants date outside his race if he only dates latino women theres nothing wrong w/ that ...latino ppl are beautiful or whatever race that's his damn preference were all beautiful ppl in all difference races and gender !!! have we not learn anything from the teachings of dr. martin luther king jr. ? r what about the ppl who fought for the right for interacial relationships to b free to love who our heart choose !!! damn it's 2011 and race still matters wow we have along way to go

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mimi02 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Oh, even thought that queen thing factually isn't correct. Can be a pride buster if someone realizes there is usually only 1 queen maybe a few princesses. And the rest servants... someone had to take out the trash right? And that's ok,... but the whole "we were all kings & queens is a lie" the kings & queens sold off the peasants and servants to be slaves in America

If a person can be mistaken for 'other ethnic groups' then they don't look black... Even if they identify as black

Sheila's niece Nicole identifies as Black but I don't think she looks black.

I saw comedian Lisa Lupinetti who was known for loving black men. And she rips on every type of ethnic group out there. She tore upa Jewish/Puerto Rican couple all night. And her newly Italian husband. I don't identify as black but I know what that all means in this country. So I was kinda nervous when I found out we had 4th row seats. She wanted to rip into Indian men that night, and was searching, for some reason I put my head down a bit and I heard her call out "There's one, right there in the 4th row with his head down" She was talking to me. But she could determine if I was Indian or Arab. I'm mistaken for those 2 ethnic groups alot.

But you still didn't answer the question. I'm concern because what I'm getting from your previous and current response is that your idea of what black looks like is based on stereotype and caricature. Looking black isn't about dark-skin and big features. Going any deeper than that will require it's own thread.

I'm not being stereotypical. To say that Sheila E or Prince looks black or Mariah Carey looks black is not realistic. I think sometimes what people mean is "I can see African genetic mixture in them" because they look just as much or more European.

Race terms/labels are a social construction. Not a biological fact.

The African ancestors of "African-Americans" come mostly from West & Central Africa, there are various ethnic distinction between the countries. But blue eyes, wavy hair, light skin, even light brown skin, aqualine noses mostly is not. I didn't say anything about huge lips and noses. And guess what I don't see those things as bad or ugly. So caricature is not even in my mind.

Black is an identity. Some of the same people who we identify as Black in America would be something different in Europe, in Africa, in Louisiana, in S. Africa, in parts of Latin America. Which is what I mean by race being a social construction. Alicia Keys found that out when she went to S.African and with her 'black' American identity found that the blacks, coloureds and whites identified her as a 'Cape' Coloured, not a Black person which are 2 different ethnic identities in S. Africa

And if you look at the origins of the 'race' labels it's foundation is racist. the world is full of 1000's of different ethnic groups. Not 4 racial groups. Black Yellow Red White

actress Carol Channing is 1/4 black but most people assume she is 'all' white

singer Carley Simon is 1/4 black but most people assume she is 'all' white

I remember watching a talk show that features 'blacks' who could pass for white... something like that.

And there was a woman who in no sense looked even mixed. She came from a family where both parents were of African/Euro admixture, she looked whiter. She was very much "black identified" went to a black college etc etc This was the 1970's and there was a riot in the area she lived in race related. And she realized as black as she identified, she was not identified as such by the rioters and was seen as a white woman and was physically assaulted and feared for her life as she cried out that she was also black and one of them.

Below is a beautiful Fulani woman of Nigeria, and there are many African-American woman that look just like her. Sheila E. doesn't look black as others said, she looks very much mixed. And I don't know why we have to deal in opposite polars. Sheila E does identify was/as Black & Latina that is a cultural identity. A latina can be a 'white' Spaniard women from Spain or a 'black' W.African woman

OK don't respond to me in this thread anymore, you can Orgnote me, because we are sorta gone off the topic

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[Edited 2/17/11 8:08am]

OldFriends4Sale said:

mimi02 said:

It's about pride.

What does someone who "looks black" look like?

Oh, even though that queen thing factually isn't correct. Can be a pride buster if someone realizes there is usually only 1 queen maybe a few princesses. And the rest servants... someone had to take out the trash right? And that's ok,... but the whole "we were all kings & queens is a lie" the kings & queens sold off the peasants and servants to be slaves in America

If a person can be mistaken for 'other ethnic groups' then they don't look black... Even if they identify as black

Sheila's niece Nicole identifies as Black but I don't think she looks black.

I saw comedian Lisa Lupinetti who was known for loving black men. And she rips on every type of ethnic group out there. She tore upa Jewish/Puerto Rican couple all night. And her newly Italian husband. I don't identify as black but I know what that all means in this country. So I was kinda nervous when I found out we had 4th row seats. She wanted to rip into Indian men that night, and was searching, for some reason I put my head down a bit and I heard her call out "There's one, right there in the 4th row with his head down" She was talking to me. But she couldn't determine if I was Indian or Arab. I'm mistaken for those 2 ethnic groups alot.

[Edited 2/17/11 7:55am]

I'm ethnically ambiguous... I've been guessed as Mulatto, Puerto Rican, Dominican, Middle Eastern, Italian, Brasilian, etc.

What's interesting is that it's usually by the people of each of those groups that guess me as the same as them... It's also interesting to see how they warm up and open up while thinking I'm of the same ethnic group.

http://www.wmagazine.com/...rtists_s10

[Edited 2/17/11 8:12am]

OldFriends4Sale said:

mimi02 said:

But you still didn't answer the question. I'm concern because what I'm getting from your previous and current response is that your idea of what black looks like is based on stereotype and caricature. Looking black isn't about dark-skin and big features. Going any deeper than that will require it's own thread.

I'm not being stereotypical. To say that Sheila E or Prince looks black or Mariah Carey looks black is not realistic. I think sometimes what people mean is "I can see African genetic mixture in them" because they look just as much or more European.

Race terms/labels are a social construction. Not a biological fact.

The African ancestors of "African-Americans" come mostly from West & Central Africa, there are various ethnic distinction between the countries. But blue eyes, wavy hair, light skin, even light brown skin, aqualine noses mostly is not. I didn't say anything about huge lips and noses. And guess what I don't see those things as bad or ugly. So caricature is not even in my mind.

Black is an identity. Some of the same people who we identify as Black in America would be something different in Europe, in Africa, in Louisiana, in S. Africa, in parts of Latin America. Which is what I mean by race being a social construction. Alicia Keys found that out when she went to S.African and with her 'black' American identity found that the blacks, coloureds and whites identified her as a 'Cape' Coloured, not a Black person which are 2 different ethnic identities in S. Africa

And if you look at the origins of the 'race' labels it's foundation is racist. the world is full of 1000's of different ethnic groups. Not 4 racial groups. Black Yellow Red White

actress Carol Channing is 1/4 black but most people assume she is 'all' white

singer Carley Simon is 1/4 black but most people assume she is 'all' white

I remember watching a talk show that features 'blacks' who could pass for white... something like that.

And there was a woman who in no sense looked even mixed. She came from a family where both parents were of African/Euro admixture, she looked whiter. She was very much "black identified" went to a black college etc etc This was the 1970's and there was a riot in the area she lived in race related. And she realized as black as she identified, she was not identified as such by the rioters and was seen as a white woman and was physically assaulted and feared for her life as she cried out that she was also black and one of them.

Exactly. I'm glad that's not where you were going. Race is still a very sensitive topic to some and anytime someone appears to make a statement like the one you did initially, you will be asked for further explanation. Which you did and I appreciate that.

Giovanni777 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Oh, even though that queen thing factually isn't correct. Can be a pride buster if someone realizes there is usually only 1 queen maybe a few princesses. And the rest servants... someone had to take out the trash right? And that's ok,... but the whole "we were all kings & queens is a lie" the kings & queens sold off the peasants and servants to be slaves in America

If a person can be mistaken for 'other ethnic groups' then they don't look black... Even if they identify as black

Sheila's niece Nicole identifies as Black but I don't think she looks black.

I saw comedian Lisa Lupinetti who was known for loving black men. And she rips on every type of ethnic group out there. She tore upa Jewish/Puerto Rican couple all night. And her newly Italian husband. I don't identify as black but I know what that all means in this country. So I was kinda nervous when I found out we had 4th row seats. She wanted to rip into Indian men that night, and was searching, for some reason I put my head down a bit and I heard her call out "There's one, right there in the 4th row with his head down" She was talking to me. But she couldn't determine if I was Indian or Arab. I'm mistaken for those 2 ethnic groups alot.

[Edited 2/17/11 7:55am]

I'm ethnically ambiguous... I've been guessed as Mulatto, Puerto Rican, Dominican, Middle Eastern, Italian, Brasilian, etc.

What's interesting is that it's usually by the people of each of those groups that guess me as the same as them... It's also interesting to see how they warm up and open up while thinking I'm of the same ethnic group.

It is a very interesting experience isn't it?

I used to work at a grocery store as a clerk and all the Puerto Rican & Dominican people would come thru mine because they thought I was one as well.

I'm good friends with a Middle Eastern guy who's family owns a neighborhood grocery store and until I spoke with him he always assumed I was an Indian. Same as my neighbor who is a white girl.

I usually get a strong identification thing by people who are more recent immigrants or when I'm in Canada

OldFriends4Sale said:

Giovanni777 said:

I'm ethnically ambiguous... I've been guessed as Mulatto, Puerto Rican, Dominican, Middle Eastern, Italian, Brasilian, etc.

What's interesting is that it's usually by the people of each of those groups that guess me as the same as them... It's also interesting to see how they warm up and open up while thinking I'm of the same ethnic group.

It is a very interesting experience isn't it?

I used to work at a grocery store as a clerk and all the Puerto Rican & Dominican people would come thru mine because they thought I was one as well.

I'm good friends with a Middle Eastern guy who's family owns a neighborhood grocery store and until I spoke with him he always assumed I was an Indian. Same as my neighbor who is a white girl.

I usually get a strong identification thing by people who are more recent immigrants or when I'm in Canada

I'm in the club too. The racially ambiguous. And there are are whole lot more of us born every day.

Gotta say though,..... we are a good looking bunch. lol

OldFriends4Sale said:

After seeing this picture....................

Taxi for Bria...........

OldFriends4Sale said:

I don't know about you but i get kinda hot .......just looking at this picture.....

OldFriends4Sale said:

Beats working 9 to 5 .....

Uhhhhh I think it's time to start another 20Ten thread, got to many pics to post

V10LETBLUES said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

It is a very interesting experience isn't it?

I used to work at a grocery store as a clerk and all the Puerto Rican & Dominican people would come thru mine because they thought I was one as well.

I'm good friends with a Middle Eastern guy who's family owns a neighborhood grocery store and until I spoke with him he always assumed I was an Indian. Same as my neighbor who is a white girl.

I usually get a strong identification thing by people who are more recent immigrants or when I'm in Canada

I'm in the club too. The racially ambiguous. And there are are whole lot more of us born every day.

Gotta say though,..... we are a good looking bunch. lol

Yes your correct.

uhhh ohhh you started something, the Soul Patrol will come after u lol

21 CENTURY.....OH WHAT A SHAME... WHAT A SHAME..... RACE....RACE STILL MATTERS.

OldFriends4Sale said:

V10LETBLUES said:

I'm in the club too. The racially ambiguous. And there are are whole lot more of us born every day.

Gotta say though,..... we are a good looking bunch. lol

Yes your correct.

uhhh ohhh you started something, the Soul Patrol will come after u lol

Yes, we are a good looking bunch. Be proud of who you are, regardless of where you came from.

cuerpoyalma said:

21 CENTURY.....OH WHAT A SHAME... WHAT A SHAME..... RACE....RACE STILL MATTERS.

Very sad thing, too many people want to hold onto racist ideas as a fact of nature, America has it to engrained into our ideas of class. It has to be broken down...

XNY said:

I could be wrong, but I thought he dated Cat back in 1988. The hearts in the lovesexy liner notes backs this up. I thought I read it somewhere they had dated too.

Your right they did. They had an argument back then in a club here in LA about her talking or dancing with other men. swear don't know how he managed juggling so many women. He was a master at it... Prince is actually the black Hugh Hefner.

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cuerpoyalma said:

21 CENTURY.....OH WHAT A SHAME... WHAT A SHAME..... RACE....RACE STILL MATTERS.

Yes,unfortunately, it does. I would love to live in a world where it didn't matter. One can only hope.

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

The Black community has ALWAYS considered Sheila E...a Sista!

yeah...but she isn't

mimi02 said:

cuerpoyalma said:

21 CENTURY.....OH WHAT A SHAME... WHAT A SHAME..... RACE....RACE STILL MATTERS.

Yes,unfortunately, it does. I would love to live in a world where it didn't matter. One can only hope.

It will always matter. Today, it matters more than it ever did in history.

OldFriends4Sale said:

cuerpoyalma said:

21 CENTURY.....OH WHAT A SHAME... WHAT A SHAME..... RACE....RACE STILL MATTERS.

Very sad thing, too many people want to hold onto racist ideas as a fact of nature, America has it to engrained into our ideas of class. It has to be broken down...

I have friends and families from all races and cultures. So it's no big deal amongst us.

But I have walked into some places, and BOOM! From out of nowhere come the racial BS.

Sometimes I forget some people still have hangups, but there are some people too happy to burst your bubble and make "funny" slurs directed at you, from out of nowhere, for no apparent reason.

It doesn't bother me too much, more than it knocks the air from my sail for its unexpectedness sometimes.

But back on topic though, whatever Sheila and Misty are, one thing is for sure, they sure do look good.

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