independent and unofficial
Prince fan community
Welcome! Sign up or enter username and password to remember me
Forum jump
Forums > Prince: Music and More > Prince's Next Release... Reason 4 Concern: Distribution, etc.
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Page 5 of 5 <12345
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
Reply #120 posted 02/24/11 3:50am

prb

avatar

802 said:

erik319 said:

It's been talked about before, but I think I'd like to see his next album released as a magazine. Or if not his next album, a magazine collection with vault material.

I'd happily pay £9.99 to get a copy of something like this through the door every month. The scope for articles, interviews, etc is huge. Doesn't always have to be vault material either, could be a concert dvd one month, a protege CD, an unreleased remix CD, it goes on an on...

Prince, if you've run out of distributors and have resorted to checking this website/thread for alternate methods of distribution, send me a PM! lol

[img:$uid]http://img576.i.../img:$uid]

How about he starts his own proper magazine.

a prince part works..... (a bit like the doctor who dvd files in newsagencies now)

fortnightly at your newsagency, info on the man behind the music....

the mags portion could have different sections...tours and set lists/proteges etc/band member profiles etc

and a cd/or dvd with each mag...

id buy it...heck, id get them to sell it at work!!!

with a snazzy purple folder to store the written material, free with part 2

seems that i was busy doing something close to nothing, but different than the day before music beret
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #121 posted 02/24/11 5:36am

xt1000

avatar

erik319 said:

I heard that his next release was going to cost $777 and would be telepathically broadcast into the minds of paying fams.

Apparently, you don't get album artwork though.

One of the funniest posts iv'e read for a long time!!!

falloff

"If you really want something in this life, you have to work for it - Now quiet, they're about to announce the lottery numbers!"

- Homer Simpson
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #122 posted 02/24/11 6:41am

Giovanni777

avatar

erik319 said:

It's been talked about before, but I think I'd like to see his next album released as a magazine. Or if not his next album, a magazine collection with vault material.

I'd happily pay £9.99 to get a copy of something like this through the door every month. The scope for articles, interviews, etc is huge. Doesn't always have to be vault material either, could be a concert dvd one month, a protege CD, an unreleased remix CD, it goes on an on...

Prince, if you've run out of distributors and have resorted to checking this website/thread for alternate methods of distribution, send me a PM! lol

[img:$uid]http://img576.i.../img:$uid]

That's an interesting idea, albeit likely a bit costly to produce and distribute.

"He's a musician's musician..."
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #123 posted 02/24/11 7:18am

Illuminations

When I go to other artists websites, they are not all glammed up with spinning orbs. Just simple buy or download their music. Either the entire albums or just songs you like. I won't say what he "should" do... that is what I would do now that he has put himself into a corner like another post said. These other artists have all of their music, videos, etc. on the site and guess what.... with the exception of paying for the download or order for the cd, everything else is free! No sign up fees, no overpriced t shirts that don't fit everyone!... just a simple site... simple.

With that being said................... wow, Tiger Woods just sucked big time yesterday losing his first match!!!! Ouch!! He must need some more scarlet pussy to get him back to being competitive!! LMAO!

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #124 posted 02/24/11 7:37am

purplenuts

Giovanni777 said:

I've been concerned lately about Prince's next release...

Without a widespread release of '20ten', and having used many various methods of distribution, while not having a website, how would any upcoming releases be distributed?

We've heard that he already has three albums worth of material since finalizing '20ten', but will we ever hear them?

Will he collaborate with yet another label or Target for distribution?

Does he have the desire to share his new music with his fans, seeing as how a masterpiece like 'Lotusflower' was largely unappreciated?

Yeah, I said it... I'm concerned.

~G

There were concerns with distrubution for every albums since Emancipation. With THe Rainbow Children, Musicology, 3121, and Planet Earth, Prince came out looking like some kind of maverick marketing genius. Something as simple as including the CD with the concert ticket on the Musicology tour played the system and comprised Prince's greatest market strength: his live shows. It is amazing that no one had done it on that scale untl then. They had to change te rules on record sales calculations because of that cool ass Prince move.

The deal with Target got him paid before a single disc was sold - along with some customized point of sale marketing that few artists get from a major retailer. Another stroke of genius.

Prince has probably banked more on Emancipation than he has on Purple Rain - without selling nearly as many copies.

A website can be up in a matter of days for new material. Or he can strike another deal with a retailer - online or brick and mortar - because past arrangements have worked. Prince has shown that he is still relevant and there is still market for his new music.

I look forward to anything he comes up with. I have enjoyed every innovation for distribution that he has given us (yeah, even Lotusflow3r.com).

[Edited 2/24/11 7:39am]

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #125 posted 02/25/11 11:22pm

Zannaloaf

How bout he drops a decent batch of music? Seriously.

If he delivered something that didn't sound like outtakes and half finished ideas and properly promoted it rather than shutting down everything on Youtube and performing on one or two shows distribution would not be an issue. Sh!t...Lady Gaga has worked a cd for a year or tow just showing up and promoting it all over the world.

But that's just my thought, I'm sure many would stack 20ten and Lotusflower with his best work. It's a shame generally only fans would say that.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #126 posted 02/25/11 11:26pm

802

prb said:

802 said:

How about he starts his own proper magazine.

a prince part works..... (a bit like the doctor who dvd files in newsagencies now)

fortnightly at your newsagency, info on the man behind the music....

the mags portion could have different sections...tours and set lists/proteges etc/band member profiles etc

and a cd/or dvd with each mag...

id buy it...heck, id get them to sell it at work!!!

with a snazzy purple folder to store the written material, free with part 2

That sounds cool. cool

How much will each issue it cost? $7.77?

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #127 posted 02/25/11 11:52pm

NelsonR

everythings cool cool no need to be concerned; ever since he came out, Prince has surprised and amazed us for decades with innnovation in terms of how he shares his art; i'm sure we'll be intrigued for years to come, and Prince will continue to do it his way

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #128 posted 03/06/11 9:37pm

stillwaiting

purplenuts said:

Prince has probably banked more on Emancipation than he has on Purple Rain - without selling nearly as many copies.

A website can be up in a matter of days for new material. Or he can strike another deal with a retailer - online or brick and mortar - because past arrangements have worked. Prince has shown that he is still relevant and there is still market for his new music.

I look forward to anything he comes up with. I have enjoyed every innovation for distribution that he has given us (yeah, even Lotusflow3r.com).

[Edited 2/24/11 7:39am]

About Prince's famous comment about making more money off of Emancipation. When was the last time you mentioned Prince, and a total stranger to his music said..."Oh, that guy who sang "Jam of the Year?" NOBODY....Everytime some average joe goes to a Prince concert, Prince is making the money due to Purple Rain, or at least in part to Purple Rain. Nobody goes to a Prince show hoping to hear an Emancipation track, other than us diehards who go nuts now that he is playing "The Love We Make." He may have made more total dollars in 1996 money than what he made in 1984 money with PR, but PR has given Prince millions upon millions of dollars that he has already spent, and will be sued for over and over and over. Nothing like Prince....Number One at the Bank...uh, I mean Legal Fees. (Of course, he doesn't pay his legal fees either.)

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #129 posted 03/06/11 10:16pm

hhhhdmt

stillwaiting said:

purplenuts said:

Prince has probably banked more on Emancipation than he has on Purple Rain - without selling nearly as many copies.

A website can be up in a matter of days for new material. Or he can strike another deal with a retailer - online or brick and mortar - because past arrangements have worked. Prince has shown that he is still relevant and there is still market for his new music.

I look forward to anything he comes up with. I have enjoyed every innovation for distribution that he has given us (yeah, even Lotusflow3r.com).

[Edited 2/24/11 7:39am]

About Prince's famous comment about making more money off of Emancipation. When was the last time you mentioned Prince, and a total stranger to his music said..."Oh, that guy who sang "Jam of the Year?" NOBODY....Everytime some average joe goes to a Prince concert, Prince is making the money due to Purple Rain, or at least in part to Purple Rain. Nobody goes to a Prince show hoping to hear an Emancipation track, other than us diehards who go nuts now that he is playing "The Love We Make." He may have made more total dollars in 1996 money than what he made in 1984 money with PR, but PR has given Prince millions upon millions of dollars that he has already spent, and will be sued for over and over and over. Nothing like Prince....Number One at the Bank...uh, I mean Legal Fees. (Of course, he doesn't pay his legal fees either.)

great point, Prince obviously wasnt counting the concert money he makes. Purple rain obviously plays a much much bigger part in a prince concert than anything on emancipation ever will

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #130 posted 03/06/11 11:33pm

QuasarOfRock

IstenSzek said:

he needs to just quit being such a fcking cry baby and set up a decent website

where he can push ALL his post warners material.

something simple and transparant that anyone can access, no weird sign-ups or

cash memberships.

just a good clean looking site with a list of everything he's got available and an

extensive click thru page for each release, with photo's, lyrics and credits.

if he'd been operating like that from the beginning he would have made himself

a nice little bundle off the back catalogue (post 95) whenever he had a new cd

released in stores or a successfull tour or some high profile media outing like the

superbowl.

i can only imagine how many copies of "all along the watchtower/the best of you"

he could have sold through a normal, easy website at that time.

or when he released "planet earth" and later "20Ten" with the newspapers, that

got him on the doorsteps of millions of people, many of which no doubt thought,

like we hear so often 'does prince still make music?"

what a great chance to get people to check you out online. i'm sure many did so

and what did they find? the org. at most. but no official prince site. nothing that

could allow them to see that he's had masses of albums out and no chance for

the mildly curious to listen to some snippets or read up on stuff, let alone pull out

their credit cards and buy, say, "emancipation" or songs like "glasscutter".

thus, you reach an audience of millions (3 million in europe with 20Ten, right?)

and allow all that free publicity to go to waste.

sure, i understand his need to get his hands on some money with each album so

it's not weird that he would shop it somewhere for a decent advance. but once it

becomes out of print or once the newspaper of that day is gone, you'd be better

of having a website to sell it on. since, heck, you own the masters to this stuff.

there's a part of me that hopes no one will touch his one off distribution deals at

this point and thus force him to rethink his internet presence. but then again, that

also scares me since we all know how well that went the last 4 times around.

result: one of the most prolific artists of our decade with tons of music that does

not deserve to sink into oblivion, has now got a discography that no one but us

can make heads or tails of. and even if someone can figure out just what he did

release since parting with WB, they'll have trouble acquiring a lot of it through a

legal channel since it's either out of print or "offline".

if he gets his masters back starting this year, what's he gonna do? release them

with a big cereal brand?

..

[Edited 2/11/11 18:03pm]

Too bad Prince doesn't listen to reason, because you're hitting the nail on the head without a doubt.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #131 posted 03/07/11 1:58am

SagsWay2low

avatar

20Ten was HUGELY spread in the deadest possible way via the dead Internet. lol



You're a real fucker. You act like you own this place--ParanoidAndroid <-- about as witty as this princess gets! lol
I hope everyone pays more attention to Sags posts--sweething mushy

Jesus weeps disbelief
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #132 posted 03/07/11 2:04am

thedance

avatar

electricberet said:

Apparently Warner Music Group is up for sale:

http://www.reuters.com/ar...7620110211

Let's hope WB gets bought by a company that sees the potential in Prince's back catalog.

yeahthat

I don't wanna wait no more for those re-mastered albums, with bonus. razz sad

Prince 4Ever. heart
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #133 posted 03/07/11 2:29am

SagsWay2low

avatar

Yall are a bunch of crybabies!

At the dawn of the new mellenium, he offered us a lifetime membership to his luv41a website

where for just $100 dollars, we would get free music to download every month!

Then when that lifetime membership ran out, for another $77 dollars, he offered us even more free music to download with NPGMC.com for another wonderful lifetime membership.

But Prince is a saint that way. He wasn't going to just stop at two attempts to give us free music for a marginal $70-100 lifetime membership fee....

He gave us lotusflow3r.com, where for just $77, a riddle, and a week's worth of technical difficulty, we could also be exposed to even more free music, and potential for free videos.

Yall didn't have to pay more than 300 or 400 hundred bucks for an opportunity for free music, and yall are still crying! This is Prince, yall...give it a few more months and you'll get another opportunity to pay $70 to $777 for even more free music, absolutely free.



You're a real fucker. You act like you own this place--ParanoidAndroid <-- about as witty as this princess gets! lol
I hope everyone pays more attention to Sags posts--sweething mushy

Jesus weeps disbelief
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #134 posted 03/07/11 2:47am

QuasarOfRock

Giovanni777 said:

erik319 said:

It's been talked about before, but I think I'd like to see his next album released as a magazine. Or if not his next album, a magazine collection with vault material.

I'd happily pay £9.99 to get a copy of something like this through the door every month. The scope for articles, interviews, etc is huge. Doesn't always have to be vault material either, could be a concert dvd one month, a protege CD, an unreleased remix CD, it goes on an on...

Prince, if you've run out of distributors and have resorted to checking this website/thread for alternate methods of distribution, send me a PM! lol

[

That's an interesting idea, albeit likely a bit costly to produce and distribute.

Not costly for Prince. He doesn't pay anybody.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #135 posted 03/07/11 3:03am

SagsWay2low

avatar

QuasarOfRock said:

Giovanni777 said:

That's an interesting idea, albeit likely a bit costly to produce and distribute.

Not costly for Prince. He doesn't pay anybody.

This is true, yall. His lawyers can vouch for this.


You're a real fucker. You act like you own this place--ParanoidAndroid <-- about as witty as this princess gets! lol
I hope everyone pays more attention to Sags posts--sweething mushy

Jesus weeps disbelief
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #136 posted 03/07/11 8:21pm

Elle85n09

avatar

electricberet said:

jpnyc said:

That Warner Brothers doesn’t exist. AOL/TW spun off Warner Music in 2004 to a bunch of suckers who have spent the last half-decade reacting moronically to their investment circling the drain. It’s about as much of a mess as Paisley Park, so I really can’t see how Prince and Warner Music can come together and produce anything short of a singularity of disaster that takes the entire music industry down with it.

Of course, maybe that’s been his plan all along…

Well, then I guess I'll have to wait until 2026 for the box set. I'll listen to it in the nursing home along with other aging Prince fans.

I read that the Looney Tunes collection was put together because a particular Warner executive was passionate about those cartoons as a key part of the American cultural heritage. More recently they have started putting out cheaper collections that have not pleased collectors because the restoration is shoddy.

I was reading Giovanni's thread and had my spit moment for the day! I'll be right there with you. thumbs up!

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Page 5 of 5 <12345
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Forums > Prince: Music and More > Prince's Next Release... Reason 4 Concern: Distribution, etc.