smoothcriminal12 said:

joyinrepetition said:

Honestly, Prince probably ushered in the first "house/techo" song

No.

prince was the first to domesticate crops and start agriculture

IstenSzek said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

No.

prince was the first to domesticate crops and start agriculture

smoothcriminal12 said:

joyinrepetition said:

Honestly, Prince probably ushered in the first "house/techo" song

No.

Prince did not do, originate, usher in nor can do EVERYTHING.

I dunno bout the divisions between house, trance, techno, etc

all seem silly to me. It's all easily identifiable as dance club music with occasional gems here and there, but really... if you've played around with sequencing and knobs of an synth then you know how easy it is to come up with the skeleton of that shit. Throw on a fragmented vocals of some soul singer with echo, or tweak the EQ to bring it out like an AM radio and then flange it back in at full range, ... oh yeah you can also create a dramatic moment with some hyper repetition of the snare to a climax...

and just speed up the tempo of the typical beat with hihats to a "complex" extreme and you get jungle?

Okay maybe I haven't heard a lot of this stuff, I could be wrong!

ufoclub said:

I dunno bout the divisions between house, trance, techno, etc

all seem silly to me. It's all easily identifiable as dance club music with occasional gems here and there, but really... if you've played around with sequencing and knobs of an synth then you know how easy it is to come up with the skeleton of that shit. Throw on a fragmented vocals of some soul singer with echo, or tweak the EQ to bring it out like an AM radio and then flange it back in at full range, ... oh yeah you can also create a dramatic moment with some hyper repetition of the snare to a climax...

and just speed up the tempo of the typical beat with hihats to a "complex" extreme and you get jungle?

chi

Okay maybe I haven't heard a lot of this stuff, I could be wrong!

Yes you are wrong!

I'm from Chicago and Chicago is the birthplace of real house music. REAL house music. ALOT of the stuff that is passing for "house" music now, or being called "house" is not House Music. Yes there are differences, and yes different forms of techno, club, dance, electro exist but the fact of the matter is, they have ALL came from the original House music.

If we are talking the early years of Prince pre-1999, then NO Prince has never done a House music track, sorry he hasn't. Disco, yes, House no.

Now he has played around with techno and electro beats and stuff like that but real House music is not this crap that is being passed as House music now.

I am a house head and yes, some of these record labels are doing some deep house but it still isn't based off the original beats that made up the deep house sound. Alot of it is based off of remixes and chillout beats, which is also part of the House Music genre.

I can go on and on about this but um no, real house music, there is a difference and Prince ain't NEVER done a house track.

But I too love The Human Body

I love this and New World.

Loved it from the first minute and still do.

Electronic music can still be intelligent and soulful if it's done well.

It can also be awfully funky.

purplecam said:

I LOVE the song. That and New World together like that, man it's a 1-2 punch!

Exactly! A masterpiece...I'm also jealous that U witnessed the Welcum 2 America tour.

Like it!

One if the highlights on the album.

Lost in translation

Good Life Platinum People Mix

I like it. I like it. A lot.

I know it's not a strictly techno tune, but to me (and I'm not a techno professional) The Human Body has a techno feel to it. That's just me.

I really like the lyrics.

johnart said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

No.

Prince did not do, originate, usher in nor can do EVERYTHING.

If that's what u think then u obviously rn't a TRUE FAN!!! Why r u even here? Prince is so foine and funkay.

Good god. Its not "Techno" at all. Its Prince's bad attempt at european house.

The USA have never really gotten it. Its only in the last few years that the likes of Black eyed peas, Gaga and Madge has fully embraced the sound, ahead of standard US RnB drivel.

Without starting an Atlantic war, any European that has frequented a local club in the last 5 years knows that the US mainstream are 20 years behind on this.

I think it's a pretty cool song, i like it.

uh huh huh!

also like the rest of Emancipation it was experimental. Prince touched on various styles of music including house, Techno, adult contemporary & the first album in Prince's career to include cover versions of songs written by other songwriters and thought it was very well put together,consisting of three discs, each containing 12 songs with exacly 60 minutes per disc. Disk 2 being my favorite Dedicated 2 his unborn child and ex wife Mayte garcia Its the most romantic 2 disk since Stevie Wonder's "Songs In The Key Of Life". Which I'll bet anything was the inspiration of it.. 2 bad the inspiration didn't turn out good 4 Prince...

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joyinrepetition said:

Honestly, Prince probably ushered in the first "house/techo" song and did it extremely well in Controversy.

I see where you're coming from, Controversy is often cited as an iddy-biddy-biddy influence on House, but he's not the originator, nowhere near, and don't be that guy - ignorance or delusion, the choices aren't pretty.

[img:$uid]http://farm6.st.../img:$uid]IMG_5318 by springday, on Flickr

Finally figured out how to upload a freaking picture... ahhh!

Anyways... I did this in college, it was an inspiration from the song & the ribbon around the body has the lyrics written on it.

[Edited 1/30/11 21:52pm]

Avaspeaks said:

ufoclub said:

I dunno bout the divisions between house, trance, techno, etc

all seem silly to me. It's all easily identifiable as dance club music with occasional gems here and there, but really... if you've played around with sequencing and knobs of an synth then you know how easy it is to come up with the skeleton of that shit. Throw on a fragmented vocals of some soul singer with echo, or tweak the EQ to bring it out like an AM radio and then flange it back in at full range, ... oh yeah you can also create a dramatic moment with some hyper repetition of the snare to a climax...

and just speed up the tempo of the typical beat with hihats to a "complex" extreme and you get jungle?

chi

Okay maybe I haven't heard a lot of this stuff, I could be wrong!

Yes you are wrong!

I'm from Chicago and Chicago is the birthplace of real house music. REAL house music. ALOT of the stuff that is passing for "house" music now, or being called "house" is not House Music. Yes there are differences, and yes different forms of techno, club, dance, electro exist but the fact of the matter is, they have ALL came from the original House music.

If we are talking the early years of Prince pre-1999, then NO Prince has never done a House music track, sorry he hasn't. Disco, yes, House no.

Now he has played around with techno and electro beats and stuff like that but real House music is not this crap that is being passed as House music now.

I am a house head and yes, some of these record labels are doing some deep house but it still isn't based off the original beats that made up the deep house sound. Alot of it is based off of remixes and chillout beats, which is also part of the House Music genre.

I can go on and on about this but um no, real house music, there is a difference and Prince ain't NEVER done a house track.

But I too love The Human Body

I was always under the impression that House music was born in Manchester, The Madchester Factory years... But ofcourse I could be mistaken...

starbuck said:

Avaspeaks said:

Yes you are wrong!

I'm from Chicago and Chicago is the birthplace of real house music. REAL house music. ALOT of the stuff that is passing for "house" music now, or being called "house" is not House Music. Yes there are differences, and yes different forms of techno, club, dance, electro exist but the fact of the matter is, they have ALL came from the original House music.

If we are talking the early years of Prince pre-1999, then NO Prince has never done a House music track, sorry he hasn't. Disco, yes, House no.

Now he has played around with techno and electro beats and stuff like that but real House music is not this crap that is being passed as House music now.

I am a house head and yes, some of these record labels are doing some deep house but it still isn't based off the original beats that made up the deep house sound. Alot of it is based off of remixes and chillout beats, which is also part of the House Music genre.

I can go on and on about this but um no, real house music, there is a difference and Prince ain't NEVER done a house track.

But I too love The Human Body

I was always under the impression that House music was born in Manchester, The Madchester Factory years... But ofcourse I could be mistaken...

Yeah, from what I know House music started in Chicago but is nothing really like what we could call "House" today.

Bit like R and B!

NouveauDance said:

joyinrepetition said:

Honestly, Prince probably ushered in the first "house/techo" song and did it extremely well in Controversy.

I see where you're coming from, Controversy is often cited as an iddy-biddy-biddy influence on House, but he's not the originator, nowhere near, and don't be that guy - ignorance or delusion, the choices aren't pretty.

I'm glad someone has the sense to see where I'm coming from. Controversy is one of the first electronica/house/techno songs from 1981. By no means am I saying Prince invented the genre.

nosajd said:

[img:$uid]http://farm6.st.../img:$uid]IMG_5318 by springday, on Flickr

Finally figured out how to upload a freaking picture... ahhh!

Anyways... I did this in college, it was an inspiration from the song & the ribbon around the body has the lyrics written on it.

[Edited 1/30/11 21:52pm]

Average song - The Humnan Body, but I like it.

Loose! and I Wanna Melt With U are better, I agree.

The COME album is fantastic.

(Way better than Emancipation imo)

ufoclub said:

It's all easily identifiable as dance club music with occasional gems here and there, but really... if you've played around with sequencing and knobs of an synth then you know how easy it is to come up with the skeleton of that shit. Throw on a fragmented vocals of some soul singer with echo, or tweak the EQ to bring it out like an AM radio and then flange it back in at full range, ... oh yeah you can also create a dramatic moment with some hyper repetition of the snare to a climax...

Sounds like quite a lot of work actually.

I like "The Human Body" for what it is and enjoy listening to it. I don't have a problem with anyone calling it "techno" - because that's such an umbrella term - but it's quite clear to me that he still couldn't get away from approaching the piece like he was making a yet another electronic funk track. "New World" is a whole lot better though.

Avaspeaks said:

ufoclub said:

I dunno bout the divisions between house, trance, techno, etc

all seem silly to me. It's all easily identifiable as dance club music with occasional gems here and there, but really... if you've played around with sequencing and knobs of an synth then you know how easy it is to come up with the skeleton of that shit. Throw on a fragmented vocals of some soul singer with echo, or tweak the EQ to bring it out like an AM radio and then flange it back in at full range, ... oh yeah you can also create a dramatic moment with some hyper repetition of the snare to a climax...

and just speed up the tempo of the typical beat with hihats to a "complex" extreme and you get jungle?

chi

Okay maybe I haven't heard a lot of this stuff, I could be wrong!

Yes you are wrong!

I'm from Chicago and Chicago is the birthplace of real house music. REAL house music. ALOT of the stuff that is passing for "house" music now, or being called "house" is not House Music. Yes there are differences, and yes different forms of techno, club, dance, electro exist but the fact of the matter is, they have ALL came from the original House music.

If we are talking the early years of Prince pre-1999, then NO Prince has never done a House music track, sorry he hasn't. Disco, yes, House no.

Now he has played around with techno and electro beats and stuff like that but real House music is not this crap that is being passed as House music now.

I am a house head and yes, some of these record labels are doing some deep house but it still isn't based off the original beats that made up the deep house sound. Alot of it is based off of remixes and chillout beats, which is also part of the House Music genre.

I can go on and on about this but um no, real house music, there is a difference and Prince ain't NEVER done a house track.

But I too love The Human Body

Everything u said is spot on. And Drum and Bass is not called Jungle anymore, it was created in the UK(mainly London) dance scene with heavy influence from Jamaican Dub music, which is a branch of the now Dubstep.

Also I love The human body. I like majority of Princes albums from the 90s, I thought they were much more diverse.

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^^ And dirty.

TheDigitalGardener said:

^^ And dirty.

Well, dirtier

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

also like the rest of Emancipation it was experimental. Prince touched on various styles of music including house, Techno, adult contemporary & the first album in Prince's career to include cover versions of songs written by other songwriters and thought it was very well put together,consisting of three discs, each containing 12 songs with exacly 60 minutes per disc. Disk 2 being my favorite Dedicated 2 his unborn child and ex wife Mayte garcia Its the most romantic 2 disk since Stevie Wonder's "Songs In The Key Of Life". Which I'll bet anything was the inspiration of it.. 2 bad the inspiration didn't turn out good 4 Prince...

[Edited 1/30/11 19:11pm]

I dont think it was so much the songwriting was an issue it was the drum programming....I bet if there were some more tunes with live instrumentation or ...away from the drum machine he was using at that time it could have been a little more 'deep' sounding. Like I said, it was the texture of the album...very mid-90's instrumentation going on with those drum machines used....cheap and thin sounding. I like the fact he picked it up recently...they sound a bit harder.

starbuck said:

Avaspeaks said:

Yes you are wrong!

I'm from Chicago and Chicago is the birthplace of real house music. REAL house music. ALOT of the stuff that is passing for "house" music now, or being called "house" is not House Music. Yes there are differences, and yes different forms of techno, club, dance, electro exist but the fact of the matter is, they have ALL came from the original House music.

But I too love The Human Body

I was always under the impression that House music was born in Manchester, The Madchester Factory years... But ofcourse I could be mistaken...

True, Chicago was the birthplace. Starback, you should read the book "last night a dj saved my life"

the history of the disc jockey. It's a good read.