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Reply #60 posted 01/20/11 12:06am

Astasheiks

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Chas said:

The article is factually correct. I think people on this thread object to someone shitting on Prince who ain't on prince.org. wink It's the ole "No one can beat up my little brother but me" thing. And yeah, I think MTV has a beef with Prince, he's dissed them over the years, and isn't their demographic anymore. I don't even know why they would even review a Prince show. At the end of the day, Prince got paid a whole lot of money for those shows, and earned a spot in music history, despite bad reviews from music and concert critics. Jem Asswad got $100 for writing the article and saw a Prince show for free. Which one you think is sleeping better tonight?

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Reply #61 posted 01/20/11 12:07am

Astasheiks

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Xibalba said:

I just want to hear what he said about Madonna! lol

Yea, me too lol

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Reply #62 posted 01/20/11 12:16am

Gohi

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Gohi said:

Exactly. Freaking Prince fams.

Three Words: BACK-TO-SCHOOL

you need it wink

and you're the one who called "ignorant" falloff

Freaking Prince Non fams or bitter ex-hardcore fans rolleyes

I'm currently going to college and clearly getting a better education than you ever got. Your arguments are awful and resort to insulting anyone who disagrees with you. This is a discussion forum but clearly more into berating people than hearing their opinions.

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Reply #63 posted 01/20/11 1:08am

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Even his hit-driven 2004 tour was way too heavy on unspectacular, then-new songs.

This is the only bit of the article that made me confused because it's plainly false. He played Musicology and did On The Couch during the acoustic portion most nights but otherwise virtually all older songs.

Otherwise it's not so unreasonable.

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Reply #64 posted 01/20/11 2:13am

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mynameisnotsusan said:

Even his hit-driven 2004 tour was way too heavy on unspectacular, then-new songs.

This is the only bit of the article that made me confused because it's plainly false. He played Musicology and did On The Couch during the acoustic portion most nights but otherwise virtually all older songs.

Otherwise it's not so unreasonable.

You forgot Call My Name, Life O' the Party and Dear Mr. Man. Also if you count those, along with the covers that he did and not count the snippets of some older stuff he did as full songs then it's not plainly false but otherwise reasonable. shrug

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Reply #65 posted 01/20/11 3:37pm

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Prince Keeps It Fresh At Welcome 2 America Show

At New York's Madison Square Garden, the artist dug deep into his vault for two hours of hits.

NEW YORKPrince hasn't had a hit single in more than 15 years and has gone even longer without a legitimate hit album. eek And at 52 — after all those years of splits, spins and pivots in high heels on hard stages — he can't dance like he used to.eek

But he can still sing and play guitar, he's got a band as tightly drilled as the Special Forces, and most of all, he's got a plush featherbed of hits. And that's how he's managed to fill five New York-area arena shows:-x WTF? over the course of six weeks on his Welcome 2 America Tour: by promising — and finally delivering — the hits that his fans want. His show at Madison Square Garden on Tuesday night was certainly a crowd-pleaser.

See, Prince used to mess with his audience's expectations so flagrantly, it verged on self-sabotage.confused He followed Purple Rain with the fan-confounding Around the World in a Day. He gave hits like "Nothing Compares 2 U" and "Manic Monday" to other artists.confused During stadium concerts at the peak of his popularity, he'd play "Little Red Corvette" for 45 seconds and vamp on an unreleased song for eight minutes. Even his hit-driven 2004 tour was way too heavy on unspectacular, then-new songs.

Tuesday night's show had very little of that — although it did start off with him playing annoying snippets of those cherished hits like an obnoxious dude repeatedly hitting fast-forward on a CD:-? . But after that, it was a lush, two-hour-long dive into his golden era.

There were mega-hits ("Kiss," "Take Me With U," "Raspberry Beret," "U Got the Look," "Purple Rain," "Let's Go Crazy," "1999"); mezzanine hits ("Delirious," "Controversy," "Let's Work," "Anotherloverholenyohead," "If I Was Your Girlfriend"); falsetto-dripping slow jams crammed together in the second encore ("Insatiable," "Scandalous" and "Adore," which are basically the same song); and a few curveballs for the die-hard fans ("She's Always in My Hair," plus two songs he wrote for others: Sheila E's "A Love Bizarre" and the Time's "Cool"). He didn't play all of the songs in their entirety, but he played most of a lot of them.

There were still a lot he left out: "When Doves Cry," "Little Red Corvette," "Diamonds and Pearls" and "When U Were Mine," to name just a few. He hardly played anything from the past 15 years.

And he's still weird. He played the first half of the show wearing a shirt with his own face on it.confused He made two references to getting his picture taken even though the ushers individually warned audience members not to take any. He jumped on, lay on and even dry-humped the purple grand piano several times but played it for only about two minutes. He repeatedly held his mic to Maceo Parker's saxophone, even though it had its own. confused He was nearly upstaged by a hapless stagehand who spent several minutes crawling around the stage, brushing off (by hand!) the purple confetti that earlier had rained down on the crowd. He brought a girl onstage from the audience and serenaded her tenderly with the bitter "I Love U, But I Don't Trust U Anymore." He heaped praise on opening act Sharon Jones and the Dap Kings but hurried them off the stage after they joined him for "A Love Bizarre."confused

Prince has promised to shuffle the set for every night of the tour, and while that kept things fresh, it did make for some uneven pacing. The band missed a couple of cues (prompting evil glares from their boss), and it's hard to say if there were three or four encores, as the musicians followed Prince offstage at one point only to come back seconds later.confused But the energy peaked as the evening drew to a close.

He brought a couple dozen audience members — including Jimmy Fallon, ?uestlove, Leighton Meester, Sharon Jones and a few Dap Kings — onstage for "Baby I'm a Star." (Donald Trump and Madonna were also reportedly in the audience — Prince made an obscure joke about the latter.) And he milked the evening for all it was worth: The last encore saw the band roaring through "Let's Go Crazy," "Delirious" and "1999," and at 10:55, as they were reaching the end of "Peach," Prince pretended to look at his watch (going past 11 p.m. usually means overtime pay for venue staff at the artist's expense), and launched into another three or so minutes of soloing. He then threw his Telecaster into the crowd, thanked New York one last time, and left the stage — this time, for good.mad

Have you seen Prince in concert recently? Share your concert reviews in the comments!

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This Punk, sounds like he was paid to diss P. I saw a video of P doing his dance solo to Kiss when he was dress in red, I like to see this arsehole even attempt to do that. I bet he couldn't stop on a dime like P was doing on the snare and kick drum!!!!! rolleyes nuts

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Reply #66 posted 01/20/11 6:12pm

EleanorK

The article certainly is true, but I do find it a bit mean-spirited.

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Reply #67 posted 01/20/11 6:21pm

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Fuck this guy..... MTV they don't even show music videos here in Denmark anymore.

It's all about lifestyle soap operahs now, Jack ass etc........

And when they finally shows some music (in the night time) it hiphop and r'n'b.

I used to like MTV but that was 20 years ago,

now it's c-r-a-p music tv, now not even playing music by real artists........... sad

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Reply #68 posted 01/20/11 6:31pm

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HatrinaHaterwitz said:

mynameisnotsusan said:

Even his hit-driven 2004 tour was way too heavy on unspectacular, then-new songs.

This is the only bit of the article that made me confused because it's plainly false. He played Musicology and did On The Couch during the acoustic portion most nights but otherwise virtually all older songs.

Otherwise it's not so unreasonable.

You forgot Call My Name, Life O' the Party and Dear Mr. Man. Also if you count those, along with the covers that he did and not count the snippets of some older stuff he did as full songs then it's not plainly false but otherwise reasonable. shrug

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Forgot Life O' the Party. Call My Name and Dear Mr Man were hardly played on the tour but I take your point. I'm happy to change from plainly false to exaggeration. I find it hard to believe many people were watching that tour thinking 'way too many new songs'.

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Reply #69 posted 01/21/11 12:53am

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Marrk said:

JoeTyler said:

hahahaahaha

oh yeah, perhaps I'm mad, or I live in another dimension, but 3121 was a NUMBER 1 album in 2006

Not in my country it wasn't.

Didn't it sink like a stone after one week on Billboard? Doesn't sound like a legitimate hit album to me.

all right fine "NOT IN UR COUNTRY", but in mine it was (South Africa rocks!!!)

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Reply #70 posted 01/21/11 3:03am

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What exactly is your problem with this article? What is untrue about it?




I haven't seen him live since 21 Nights in London....and that article pretty much sums up those shows. Don't get me wrong, the final night was excellent (another night not so) but he did just walk around or stand still, he did tease and break-off from Crowd pleasers ("I've got too many hits" - fucking play 'em then!!!). Those shows were Nailed on hits (purple Rain, Kiss, Let's Go Crazy) or current album tracks....no muddle ground, no nods to the fans. Coasting is the best way to describe it and he was up and down on that lift so much I thought he might be trying to get his money's worth out of it.
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Reply #71 posted 01/21/11 7:14am

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purpledoveuk said:

errant said:

What exactly is your problem with this article? What is untrue about it?

I haven't seen him live since 21 Nights in London....and that article pretty much sums up those shows. Don't get me wrong, the final night was excellent (another night not so) but he did just walk around or stand still, he did tease and break-off from Crowd pleasers ("I've got too many hits" - fucking play 'em then!!!). Those shows were Nailed on hits (purple Rain, Kiss, Let's Go Crazy) or current album tracks....no muddle ground, no nods to the fans. Coasting is the best way to describe it and he was up and down on that lift so much I thought he might be trying to get his money's worth out of it.

...but in London he kicked ass during 15 aftershows.....

without selling out the mains with hits, he wouldn't be able to do the intimate afters just for fans.

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Reply #72 posted 01/21/11 8:04am

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'"Insatiable," "Scandalous" and "Adore," which are basically the same song'

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Reply #73 posted 01/21/11 11:19am

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JorsDePauper said:



purpledoveuk said:


errant said:

What exactly is your problem with this article? What is untrue about it?



I haven't seen him live since 21 Nights in London....and that article pretty much sums up those shows. Don't get me wrong, the final night was excellent (another night not so) but he did just walk around or stand still, he did tease and break-off from Crowd pleasers ("I've got too many hits" - fucking play 'em then!!!). Those shows were Nailed on hits (purple Rain, Kiss, Let's Go Crazy) or current album tracks....no muddle ground, no nods to the fans. Coasting is the best way to describe it and he was up and down on that lift so much I thought he might be trying to get his money's worth out of it.

...but in London he kicked ass during 15 aftershows.....


without selling out the mains with hits, he wouldn't be able to do the intimate afters just for fans.




Oh I know but it wasn't the 'fan' hits it was like a Vegas show if uber hits for the everyman - shame really. Kiss, Let's Go, Purple Rain have been done to death...what about When Doves Cry, LRC, I wanna be your lover etc...all the big hits the fans haven't heard for a while
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Reply #74 posted 01/21/11 11:37am

Tremolina

What's MTV?

They do not even broadcast music anymore

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Reply #75 posted 01/21/11 4:58pm

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i didn't see anything wrong with the article. it sounded pretty truthful to what i've seen online of the shows. i don't like his 80s stuff, i liked the 90s stuff, which is why i didn't bother with trying to get tickets. he's VERY self centered and wants things done the way he wants, but that's something any longtime fam knows. clearly this reviewer didn't.

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Reply #76 posted 01/23/11 11:17pm

EleanorK

It's his shows. He can be as self-centered as he wants to. If he wants his stage sweeped in the middle of the set, he has every right to demand it. (To be honest, if I was 52 and my stage was slippery - I would stop the show to have it cleaned and dried with hair dryers instead of risking a broken hip.) As for the set list - his show, his set list. He doesn't own anybody anything, the same way we don't own him anything.

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Reply #77 posted 01/24/11 6:14am

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'"Insatiable," "Scandalous" and "Adore," which are basically the same song'

eek

as much as I love every one of them, and would put them all as some of my absolute favourites, I totally agree. Just like alot of Jamie Starr/The Time songs are pretty much the same. The Bird, The Walk, Chocolate, Cool etc... The Mr. Cool variant of james brown.

I don't think he was saying nothing untrue, but it was from a subjective and bitter point of view. And who cares about MTV these days? 13 year old spoiled shit kids? MTV is not relevant, and is not a music channel anymore.

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Reply #78 posted 01/24/11 8:33am

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Sounds like something from a 'casual' reviewer who has not really followed up on him at all
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Reply #79 posted 01/24/11 1:35pm

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njin said:

PatricioRey said:

'"Insatiable," "Scandalous" and "Adore," which are basically the same song'

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as much as I love every one of them, and would put them all as some of my absolute favourites, I totally agree. Just like alot of Jamie Starr/The Time songs are pretty much the same. The Bird, The Walk, Chocolate, Cool etc... The Mr. Cool variant of james brown.

I don't think he was saying nothing untrue, but it was from a subjective and bitter point of view. And who cares about MTV these days? 13 year old spoiled shit kids? MTV is not relevant, and is not a music channel anymore.

First of all, Adore in particular is in a class by itself both musically and lyrically. Insatiable and Scandalous do have similar themes, but I still can't go as far as to say they are the same song. Many artists have a theme to their music---like Jay-Z and the big band beats. Would I then say that every Jay-Z song is the same? Absolutely not!

To this note, I think Prince has done a fine job of diversifying his music. He can be humorous, somber, spiritual, sexual, sweet---you name it. And he has a track record of being successful in conveying those emotions to his listeners. I think that the songs that are similar, like The Time songs, represent the theme for that particluar group (raucous, humorous, arrogant, etc.).

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Reply #80 posted 01/24/11 3:13pm

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Why is MTV commenting upon music? I thought they were all about teenage moms with dysfunctional relationships and fat kids trying to be skinny. Oh and let's not forget the kiddie porn 'Skins' they're pushing now.

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When eye go 2 a Prince concert or related event it's all heart up in the house but when eye log onto this site and the miasma of bitchiness is completely overwhelming!
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Reply #81 posted 01/25/11 7:05am

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mynameisnotsusan said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

You forgot Call My Name, Life O' the Party and Dear Mr. Man. Also if you count those, along with the covers that he did and not count the snippets of some older stuff he did as full songs then it's not plainly false but otherwise reasonable. shrug

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Forgot Life O' the Party. Call My Name and Dear Mr Man were hardly played on the tour but I take your point. I'm happy to change from plainly false to exaggeration. I find it hard to believe many people were watching that tour thinking 'way too many new songs'.

He definitley was exaggerating it to a point. Most of all the songs he did were old, at least 70% of them. From DMSR, Controversy, Sign O The Times, When Doves Cry, Lets Go Crazy, Insatiable, Adore, Purple Rain, I Would Die 4 U, Cream, Baby I'm A Star, U Got The Look I can go on...most of the show was old stuff...not even including the Time performances I saw before he got on.

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