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LE PETIT PRINCE and the days of wild LE PETIT PRINCE Be it! Taking a risk is always an adventure. | |
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"3121 made 2006 look like a year in the 23rd Century. Its futuristic sounds..." Actually, except for the very contemporary Black Sweat (that sounded exactly like 2004's Snoop Dogg's album and a few other hip-hop records from these days), most of the album sounds like 1996 exactly. It's not a critic: i actually enjoyed this jump in 10 before's sounds, particularly since i really enjoy the way things sounded in '96, but it's funny that you'd perceive it as "futuristic" when it was actually "retro" ^^
Apart from that, you wrote a real nice essay [Edited 10/17/10 22:21pm] A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ | |
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Thanks for your feedback.
But if you compare 3121 with its predecessor Musicology, you'll (perhaps) understand my point. Be it! Taking a risk is always an adventure. | |
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I just re-read my answer to your feedback, and thinking about it my answer sounded dismissive and smart-alec. I didn't want to offend you, and my only excuse is that I'm not a native speaker and I try to improve my english every day. Be it! Taking a risk is always an adventure. | |
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Wow this is really good! I don't usually get time to read posts this long but u drew me in & i wasn't leaving it until id read every word! Emancipation & The Gold Experience were both truly underrated in their musical content, 2 many critics poking fun at the name change instead of reviewing what mattered the most: The Music! I 2 feel that Prince is searching. 4 what we will never know, i doubt even he knows! Most people would think what more could he want, however it isn't a want that he is searching for. It is a Need & something that can't be bought, borrowed or stealed! His search will go on as will our own 4 we will never find ours either, it can be a cold & lonely journey at times but 1 that we are all taking every day, just differently that's all! Continue 2 enjoy his music & the journey & u just can't go wrong! Peace & Be Wild! Prince once tried 2 change his name 2 a symbol so that ur'e mother couldn't find him in the phonebook!
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the gold experience got positive reviews from critics
Emancipation didnt because its too long with too much filler, if emancipation was a single cd then it would have recieved much better reviews | |
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We don't get the reviews as much here downunder, in fact we don't get much news on Prince generally unless we specifically look 4 it. TMBGITW reached no 1 on our charts, i don't hear much Prince on our radios stations either, the older songs yeah eg raspberry beret, kiss, LRC, Cream etc I think the last "newer' Prince song i heard was Musicology. Iv'e never heard Betcha By Golly Wow, Gold or Right Back Here in my Arms on a australian radio station. Each time i request them they don't play 'em. Maybe it's a publishing rights legal thing, i don't kno, i just think they should play his newer releases! Lol, they mite even like "em aye! Prince once tried 2 change his name 2 a symbol so that ur'e mother couldn't find him in the phonebook!
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Thank you very much. It's for people like you that it's worth all the spent time for writing a longer essay. Thank you for your wonderful and heart-felt words. Be it! Taking a risk is always an adventure. | |
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Well said. "New Power slide...." | |
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Oh, im just glad i managed 2 read ure thought provoking post without interruption! I 2 delve in2 deeper thought processes about Prince, and a lot of the songs on Emancipation get me there. Keep up ure longer thoughtful posts & i will do my absolute best 2 read them & comment! BTW I love The Beautiful Experience cd! So much so that i burned it & put the original away, i don't play it 4 fear of getting a scratch on it! Prince once tried 2 change his name 2 a symbol so that ur'e mother couldn't find him in the phonebook!
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Thanks for reading! Be it! Taking a risk is always an adventure. | |
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Great post indeed BeautifulExperience and your English is good! You're able to express yourself well so you truely "think" in the language.
You've inspired me. I'm going to write a review tonight on SWA's thread. Maybe I'll do Emancipation. You're right about listening and LISTENING> I don't know why society needs it's heroes to rise and fall it's something in human nature that my head intellectually understands but my heart can't fathom. We are really blessed to have so much music from Prince and that he shares his vision and path.
But I am really jealous... "The Truth all acoustic album" I HAVE to get it.
"Free URself, B the best that U can B, 3rd Apartment from the Sun, nothing left to fear" Prince Rogers Nelson - Forever in my Life - | |
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Emancipation is a wonderful album! There are so many things to find there. And yes, all the different versions of The Most beautiful Girl In The World on The Beautiful Experience make this disc a real gem. Thanks again for your kind feedback! Be it! Taking a risk is always an adventure. | |
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Thank you! At least I try to think in the language, and I read a lot of books to improve my skills.
I'm glad to hear that I inspired you, and especially Emancipation deserves a lot of praise. I think it's one of the most beautiful albums ever made by an artist, and it's so sad it's out of print.
Perhaps we're all a little bit mad now, 'cause in these days a lot of us aren't able to appreciate things anymore; it's like we'd have lost something, a little spark and a fire in us. But things change.
And yes, you should get The Truth!
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Sometimes I think radio stations are a thing from yesterday; there's no real good chance to detect any interesting music from a common radio station. Be it! Taking a risk is always an adventure. | |
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If prince was signed to a major label, then yes emancipation could have had a few radio hits, especially catchy songs like "sleep around".
But the fact remains is that he did not have enough top notch material to justify a 3 cd release. TGE got great reviews from critics. And TMBGITW wasnt the only hit, i hate u was a "hit" in the us, and gold was a hit in the UK
Prince could have made a very nice single cd with emancipation but he didnt. Sure there are good songs on there like the holy river and sleep around and others but there's too much filler. He only has himself to blame for the critical failiure of emancipation. Look, i'm a big fan but there's something called quality control. This thread is a good read anyway though | |
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Admittedly if it wasn't 4 the radio being on at work i probably wouldn't listen 2 it at all! Shame tho' i remember listening 2 it every sunday nite 4 the top 40 countdown. But u are rite in that it is becoming a thing of the past. I don't know 2 many people that listen 2 it often. Prince once tried 2 change his name 2 a symbol so that ur'e mother couldn't find him in the phonebook!
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As mush as I hate saying it, also a huge fan of Prince, he can be his own worst enemy when it comes to promoting & marketing his products. It's a shame really cuz if he really took the time to apply good "quality control" who knows what this & other albums could have done! I guess hindsight 4 him isn't such a wonderful thing! Prince once tried 2 change his name 2 a symbol so that ur'e mother couldn't find him in the phonebook!
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What shall I say? I like Emancipation just the way it is. Who am I to categorize a song as "filler"? Perhaps there are songs I don't get into from the beginning, and maybe there is a song I don't like personally - but does this circumstance make a song a "filler"? For example: I didn't like Saviour from the start, but in the meantime it's one of my favorite tracks on Emancipation. Please don't get me wrong: I accept your opinion, but this seems to be nothing about right or wrong. Music's a much too personal thing to say anything objective about it.
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Me, too. I think, iTunes changed a lot the way how we perceive music now. Be it! Taking a risk is always an adventure. | |
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Yes, since EMI were obviously just some small indie shop.
Sheesh, the nonsense you folks come up with to avoid admitting the truth.
Let's see: a 3-CD album and the first release is a COVER? Great thinking. Oh, and it's a not particularly inspired cover of a sugary soul song. A ballad. Because, hey, that worked the last time around, right? And that was just one of many, many things that are wrong with Emancipation. © Bart Van Hemelen
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"Admitting to the truth" Bart? I think you meant to say "your truth." "Free URself, B the best that U can B, 3rd Apartment from the Sun, nothing left to fear" Prince Rogers Nelson - Forever in my Life - | |
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So please inform me: how many of the 36 songs on Emancipation, the album he was "born to make", has Prince performed live on a regular basis?
And I repeat: the lead single was a cover. A COVER. 30+ original tracks to choose from, and instead he picked a cover. © Bart Van Hemelen
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Sorry Bart. I'm afraid you'll have to speak up. I'm a bit hard of hearing. "Free URself, B the best that U can B, 3rd Apartment from the Sun, nothing left to fear" Prince Rogers Nelson - Forever in my Life - | |
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Sorry, but I don't get your point. Do you measure the artistic worth of an album only in its "success" by sales? And what is your truth? You're just saying that there are so many things wrong with Emancipation - so please describe some of your points. I'm interested. Be it! Taking a risk is always an adventure. | |
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I loved reading your passionate article that reveals so much love for Prince's music! You have made especially one point that I would like to emphasize from my personal point of view - the fact that so many of Prince's songs touch me simply for the reason that they clearly show how he puts his heart and soul into his music.
The work of this outstanding artist has so much depth and goes far beyond anything as meaningless as chart hits. As he has said recently himself in interviews - he had the success in the charts, nowadays that is not important to him anymore. The quality of a song surely is not defined by the position it takes in the charts. WHat's sad about this is only that most people know only the hits, and they have no idea what an enormous amount of beautiful songs Prince has written that never got any attention.
Anyway, thanks for sharing your appreciation of Prince's work. And could you point me to where you wrote about Lotusflow3r and 20Ten, please, as I could not find the threads.
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First I give you the links:
http://prince.org/msg/7/343732 - Prince: 20 Ten - About Opening Doors
http://prince.org/msg/7/312792 - Prince: LOtUSFLOW3R - Acts I, II & III
Thank you for your wonderful feedback! I can't answer right now, but I'll do it soon. Be it! Taking a risk is always an adventure. | |
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i definately agree with this part. Prince has many great songs (when you were mine, adore, crucial, pink cashmere, iiwyg, erotic city, 17 days, tbodp) that were not hits but that are great songs nonetheless. | |
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I'm glad u wrote about The Hits/The B-Sides & Come 2 of my favs. For me, Come was the musical turning point 4 P - a new sound. Love the song, Space. | |
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First, thanks again for your feedback, and thanks for reading.
I think that doing things with passion is the key for everything good. To have success in the charts you have to compromise up to a certain point, and that diminishes your vision. Be it! Taking a risk is always an adventure. | |
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