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Matt Thorne - Gigolos Get Lonely Too - Prince A History

After triping over this article .... I would like to know if any orgers have read this publication from Loops and is it worth going out to buy?

http://www.loopsjournal.c...amp;aid=42

Matt Thorne is engaged in an epic survey of Prince’s thirty-year output (the first of its kind) and the essay featured here examines, uncovers and celebrates a half-decade of lunatic levels of song-writing, producing and performing. In 1983 Jackson shared a stage with Prince for the only time at a James Brown gig at the Apollo (YouTube) Jackson’s performance is slick and sublime. Prince responds with sick squeals and a guitar solo so awful it has prompted debate about his psychotropic intake at the time.

Perhaps the crowning irony of these parallel, yin-yang careers is that Jackson crumbled and finally expired in preparation for an improbable fifty-night residency at O2. Prince’s legendary twenty-one nights and aftershows in 2007 live on in bootleg form

Sample from Website:

Prince: His Protégées, Side-projects and Their Influence (Part One 1978–84)

There are four main strands to Prince's music – first, the official releases from his 1978 debut For You to 2009's Lotusflow3r/MPLSoUND, including the studio albums and singles but also myriad remixes and maxi-albums, often with as many as six or seven variations on the original track; second, the unreleased songs which have kept several bootleg labels afloat for decades, now so multitudinous that labels can put out twenty CD sets, or 43-hour MP3 collections and still not exhaust the circulating material; third, the live recordings: two official releases – the One Nite Alone box set and 2008's Indigo Nights – and literally thousands of bootleg recordings, including several versions of the same show in differing fidelity; and fourth, the songs he has given to other artists and protégées, from Sue Ann Carwell in 1978 to Bria Valente's Elixer earlier this year.
As with Prince's own releases, the records that his protégées and friends (and in Mayte's case, wife) have put out over the last thirty years have been of variable quality: some are considered classics of their kind (much of the output of The Time, Madhouse, The Family, Jill Jones and Sheila E), others have split opinion (Mayte's very '90s Child of the Sun or Ingrid Chavez's poetic May 19 1992) and a few (such as Carmen Electra's debut) are regarded as complete disasters. But just as almost every Prince track, even the bad ones, has something of interest, so any album or song that he has major involvement with is worth seeking out. It also seems significant to a deeper understanding of Prince's creative nature that he's continued to pursue this side of his career in the face of record company doubts and mass public indifference.

–You can find the rest of this article in Issue 02, available to buy from

Eye Was Born & Raised On The Same Plantation In The United States Of The Red, White And Blue Eye Never Knew That Eye Was Different Til Dr. King Was On The Balcony
Lying In A Bloody Pool......Call me a Dreamer 2 - R.I.P - James Brown and Michael Jackson
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Reply #1 posted 10/16/10 7:20am

CocoRock

He lost me after he wrote Prince and MJ "shared the stage for the first time".



Never. Happened.
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Reply #2 posted 10/16/10 7:26am

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Dreamer2 said:

In 1983 Jackson shared a stage with Prince for the only time at a James Brown gig at the Apollo (YouTube) Jackson’s performance is slick and sublime.

the same apollo as prince's recent press conference? or am i missing something lol

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Reply #3 posted 10/16/10 7:34am

Pentacle

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He lost me after he wrote Prince and MJ "shared the stage for the first time". Never. Happened.

Maybe you should check the Youtube clip first, my young Padawan.

Stop the Prince Apologists ™
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Reply #4 posted 10/16/10 7:39am

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CocoRock said:

He lost me after he wrote Prince and MJ "shared the stage for the first time". Never. Happened.

Wrong! Do some research...

Not dead, not in prison, still funkin'...
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Reply #5 posted 10/16/10 7:47am

MikeyB71

CocoRock said:

He lost me after he wrote Prince and MJ "shared the stage for the first time". Never. Happened.

Firstly, he never wrote "shared the stage for the first time." He wrote "shared the stage for the only time.

Secondly, it did happen. But i am not 100% sure it was at the Apollo. The Vault book states that it occured at The Beverly Theatre in L.A. However James Brown invited MJ on stage and MJ whispered to JB that Prince was in the audience and that he should be invited to the stage.

Prince was then carried to the stage on the shoulders of Chick Huntsberry. Prince played a short guitar part, and then did a short dance.

Prince then leaned on a stage prop streetlamp which fell over. Prince then left the concert.

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Reply #6 posted 10/16/10 7:48am

CocoRock

Pentacle said:



CocoRock said:


He lost me after he wrote Prince and MJ "shared the stage for the first time". Never. Happened.

Maybe you should check the Youtube clip first, my young Padawan.


First, I'm older than you. Know this.

Secondly, maybe YOU should check the video again, and show me (using the timecode), at which point do Prince and MJ appear onstage. Together.
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Reply #7 posted 10/16/10 7:49am

CocoRock

djThunderfunk said:



CocoRock said:


He lost me after he wrote Prince and MJ "shared the stage for the first time". Never. Happened.


Wrong! Do some research...


See above.
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Reply #8 posted 10/16/10 7:51am

CocoRock

MikeyB71 said:



CocoRock said:


He lost me after he wrote Prince and MJ "shared the stage for the first time". Never. Happened.

Firstly, he never wrote "shared the stage for the first time." He wrote "shared the stage for the only time.


Secondly, it did happen. But i am not 100% sure it was at the Apollo. The Vault book states that it occured at The Beverly Theatre in L.A. However James Brown invited MJ on stage and MJ whispered to JB that Prince was in the audience and that he should be invited to the stage.


Prince was then carried to the stage on the shoulders of Chick Huntsberry. Prince played a short guitar part, and then did a short dance.


Prince then leaned on a stage prop streetlamp which fell over. Prince then left the concert.



My fault for mistaking "first" for "only". :eyeroll:

And, I've seen the clip. Many a time. I'm not new. See above.
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Reply #9 posted 10/16/10 7:52am

MikeyB71

CocoRock said:

Pentacle said:

Maybe you should check the Youtube clip first, my young Padawan.

First, I'm older than you. Know this. Secondly, maybe YOU should check the video again, and show me (using the timecode), at which point do Prince and MJ appear onstage. Together

Good point, about MJ.

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Reply #10 posted 10/16/10 7:53am

MikeyB71

CocoRock said:

MikeyB71 said:

Firstly, he never wrote "shared the stage for the first time." He wrote "shared the stage for the only time.

Secondly, it did happen. But i am not 100% sure it was at the Apollo. The Vault book states that it occured at The Beverly Theatre in L.A. However James Brown invited MJ on stage and MJ whispered to JB that Prince was in the audience and that he should be invited to the stage.

Prince was then carried to the stage on the shoulders of Chick Huntsberry. Prince played a short guitar part, and then did a short dance.

Prince then leaned on a stage prop streetlamp which fell over. Prince then left the concert.

My fault for mistaking "first" for "only". :eyeroll: And, I've seen the clip. Many a time. I'm not new. See above.

I never said you were new.

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Reply #11 posted 10/16/10 8:00am

CocoRock

MikeyB71 said:



CocoRock said:


Pentacle said:


Maybe you should check the Youtube clip first, my young Padawan.



First, I'm older than you. Know this. Secondly, maybe YOU should check the video again, and show me (using the timecode), at which point do Prince and MJ appear onstage. Together

Good point, about MJ.



Thank you.
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Reply #12 posted 10/16/10 8:01am

CocoRock

MikeyB71 said:



CocoRock said:


MikeyB71 said:


Firstly, he never wrote "shared the stage for the first time." He wrote "shared the stage for the only time.


Secondly, it did happen. But i am not 100% sure it was at the Apollo. The Vault book states that it occured at The Beverly Theatre in L.A. However James Brown invited MJ on stage and MJ whispered to JB that Prince was in the audience and that he should be invited to the stage.


Prince was then carried to the stage on the shoulders of Chick Huntsberry. Prince played a short guitar part, and then did a short dance.


Prince then leaned on a stage prop streetlamp which fell over. Prince then left the concert.




My fault for mistaking "first" for "only". :eyeroll: And, I've seen the clip. Many a time. I'm not new. See above.

I never said you were new.



Sorry. Got a little defensive after three people telling me I don't know what I'm talking about.
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Reply #13 posted 10/16/10 8:02am

MikeyB71

CocoRock said:

MikeyB71 said:

I never said you were new.

Sorry. Got a little defensive after three people telling me I don't know what I'm talking about.

wink No worries.

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Reply #14 posted 10/16/10 8:04am

Pentacle

CocoRock said:

Pentacle said:

Maybe you should check the Youtube clip first, my young Padawan.

First, I'm older than you. Know this. Secondly, maybe YOU should check the video again, and show me (using the timecode), at which point do Prince and MJ appear onstage. Together.

At 13/42/49/08 MJ walks through the background while Prince takes the guitar, my young Padawan [Name calling snip - luv4u], thus creating that mythical moment where they share the same stage.

But anyway, who cares. James Brown is dead, MJ is dead, and Prince has been musically dead for some fifteen years.

Stop the Prince Apologists ™
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Reply #15 posted 10/16/10 8:14am

CocoRock

Pentacle said:



CocoRock said:


Pentacle said:


Maybe you should check the Youtube clip first, my young Padawan.



First, I'm older than you. Know this. Secondly, maybe YOU should check the video again, and show me (using the timecode), at which point do Prince and MJ appear onstage. Together.


At 13/42/49/08 MJ walks through the background while Prince takes the guitar, my young Padawan [Name calling snip - luv4u], thus creating that mythical moment where they share the same stage.



But anyway, who cares. James Brown is dead, MJ is dead, and Prince has been musically dead for some fifteen years.




And name calling will just get you reported. I know.
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Reply #16 posted 10/16/10 8:18am

Pentacle

CocoRock said:

Pentacle said:

At 13/42/49/08 MJ walks through the background while Prince takes the guitar, my young Padawan [Name calling snip - luv4u], thus creating that mythical moment where they share the same stage.

But anyway, who cares. James Brown is dead, MJ is dead, and Prince has been musically dead for some fifteen years.

[img:$uid]http://techbuddha.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/vader-fail.jpg[/img:$uid] And name calling will just get you reported. I know.

Have you watched the video with timecode, my young Padawan? Do or do not - there is no try.

Stop the Prince Apologists ™
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Reply #18 posted 10/16/10 5:11pm

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MikeyB71 said:

CocoRock said:

He lost me after he wrote Prince and MJ "shared the stage for the first time". Never. Happened.

Firstly, he never wrote "shared the stage for the first time." He wrote "shared the stage for the only time.

Secondly, it did happen. But i am not 100% sure it was at the Apollo. The Vault book states that it occured at The Beverly Theatre in L.A. However James Brown invited MJ on stage and MJ whispered to JB that Prince was in the audience and that he should be invited to the stage.

Prince was then carried to the stage on the shoulders of Chick Huntsberry. Prince played a short guitar part, and then did a short dance.

Prince then leaned on a stage prop streetlamp which fell over. Prince then left the concert.

i remember that video. prince was drunk wasnt he?

can we get any confirmation on whether it was at the apollo or beverly?

anyway, i think its great there was at least ONE moment in time when they both stood on the same stage at the same time

some might say they shared it, but it didnt seem to me that prince was willing to 'share' it with anyone lol

michael and james on the other hand were professionals at that point,

giving the little man a chance to strut his drunkness was very gracious of both of them biggrin

this too shall pass
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Reply #19 posted 10/16/10 7:20pm

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Pentacle said:

But anyway, who cares. James Brown is dead, MJ is dead, and Prince has been musically dead for some fifteen years.

lol lol lol lol lol lol lol

And that show was not at the Apollo. Im not sure where, but it was definitely in LA. Read about it way back in the late 80s in James Brown's biography.

And I saw the video too...I dont know if he was drunk or high, but he was definitely on something that night.

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Reply #20 posted 10/17/10 8:24am

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Pentacle said:

lol lol lol lol lol lol lol

And that show was not at the Apollo. Im not sure where, but it was definitely in LA. Read about it way back in the late 80s in James Brown's biography.

And I saw the video too...I dont know if he was drunk or high, but he was definitely on something that night.

Beverly Theatre, Beverly Hills, L.A.

Sept '83.

[Edited 10/17/10 8:25am]

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