NDRU said:

MikeyB71 said:

I think that certain American citizens need to get over themselves. Are you seeing any other countries where 20TEN was not released crying about how Prince is mad at them?

If there are then please corect me.

When Lotusflower was released in the US, did the rest of the world spend the following months bitching about it and crying? My guess is that they just accepted it and were just pleased that there was a new album to be had, then set about obtaining the album by other means. Now i will admit that Lotusflower was a little easier to buy in other countries, but 20TEN is not difficult to obtain.

It is looking very unlikely that the USA or other countries will be getting 20TEN, accept it and move on, this crazy notion that Prince is mad at you and he must hate the US because he has not toured there of late is absolutely ridiculous.

The USA is not the only country in the world who would like the album and would also like him to play gigs.

that is a valid point in general about America & Americans, but seeing as Prince is American, I think it's also valid to wonder if he excluded his own country for a reason

I do not think that he would exclude the entire country because of comments made about him or otherwise. There must be a reason as to why the album was not released internationally, but my point is just that, it is not just the USA that has been excluded.

NDRU said:

Spinlight said:

Just curious, but why don't you download it from a site?

I'm not a big downloader. I used to do napster & morpheus, but I stopped once it went to the peer to peer stuff. Not sure why, I just lost interest.

I do get the occasional offering from friends; that's how I got 20Ten, but I don't seek it out anymore

I think in theory I would prefer to buy it, but if you can't I guess downloads are acceptable

If buying the album will benifit the artist who released it, yes, I totally agree. If buying the album at a greatly inflated price is only going to line the pockets of another fan or second hand seller, nah, not interested. I have no qualms about downloading if that's the case.

MikeyB71 said:

NDRU said:

that is a valid point in general about America & Americans, but seeing as Prince is American, I think it's also valid to wonder if he excluded his own country for a reason

I do not think that he would exclude the entire country because of comments made about him or otherwise. There must be a reason as to why the album was not released internationally, but my point is just that, it is not just the USA that has been excluded.

Yep. But from the standpoint of an American, Prince's releases and concerts in Europe are exceedingly difficult/expensive to get and it presents a subconscious barricade between the US and other countries. People won't immediately think of the releases of any other country except maybe Canada (and, less often, Mexico). We're not surrounded by a bunch of smaller countries, we're surrounded by ourselves.

That and he is an American artist and Americans love their celebrities.

Cerebus said:

NDRU said:

I'm not a big downloader. I used to do napster & morpheus, but I stopped once it went to the peer to peer stuff. Not sure why, I just lost interest.

I do get the occasional offering from friends; that's how I got 20Ten, but I don't seek it out anymore

I think in theory I would prefer to buy it, but if you can't I guess downloads are acceptable

If buying the album will benifit the artist who released it, yes, I totally agree. If buying the album at a greatly inflated price is only going to line the pockets of another fan or second hand seller, nah, not interested. I have no qualms about downloading if that's the case.

yes, I agree

part of why I don't download as much anymore was I found I didn't really listen to all those illegal files as much as the cds I bought.

NDRU said:

Cerebus said:

If buying the album will benifit the artist who released it, yes, I totally agree. If buying the album at a greatly inflated price is only going to line the pockets of another fan or second hand seller, nah, not interested. I have no qualms about downloading if that's the case.

yes, I agree

part of why I don't download as much anymore was I found I didn't really listen to all those illegal files as much as the cds I bought.

I wish that was still the case for me. I just rip most CDs I buy to MP3 as soon as I get them home. Records on the other hand, actual vinyl, I still listen to all the time. I'll pay those hugely inflated prices for some vinyl. Otherwise, most of my listening is done as files.

I'd love to have 20ten or One Night Alone on vinyl, too.

Everyone in the US that wanted a copy even before it's official release was able to get it thanks to the dead internet. For all intents and purposes release dates in different countries and release dates in general are meaningless. Whether illicit internet download or ebay, amazon or direct from the newspaper 20ten has been available to all US consumers since day one and before.

This is the new reality for all music releases. The ease of music distribution has been a double edge sword for everyone involved in the music industry and there is no solution in sight.

The internet in many ways killed the music industry as we knew it, so for now anyway, Prince is right that for an artist like him the internet is a dead end.

Business people have always figured out ways to make a buck on anything, so its only a matter of time before folks figure out how to make money in the music industry again.

So America wasn't left out of 20ten, only the financial viability to release it is what is left out.

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It hurt my feelings

Surely there has to be an opportunity here for an October 20th release - imagine:

20Twenty - 20 trax released 20.20.10.

Come on P , u know u love numbers!

anyone he was trying to "sell" it to for distribution rights probably caught a whiff of the endless supply of $5 copies of 21 Nights at Borders 2 years later or $5 copies of LotusFlow3r at Target 1 year later and wised up real quick.

Bighead said:

No. Its 2010 and Prince knows that someone can get anything they want in the world with little effort now. It was given away and there are more copies available than would have actually sold. If we buy from Europe, we get the exact same copy everyone else got for free. The CD was never released. I was given away. which is what he promised about 15 yrs ago. Prince doesn't have the selling power he used to have. He has to get paid in other ways. Doing stuff like this keeps him in the news.

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[Edited 9/23/10 9:41am]

like the internet? which is dead?

Most record stores in America can order it. I live in St. Louis, MO and there are 3 stores here that have 20Ten, it is listed as an IMPORT in the catalog they order from, they have it on the shelves for $12.99. So those of you who don't trust eBay or anything might want to ask your local indie record store.

Yes, America's left out. We're so NOT used to that are we?

It's not a big deal to me. Prince can afford to do something like this because he's Prince. I honestly think that he's got so much music stashed away that he just pulled some songs out of the vault or wherever, and put this CD out to generate interest for those shows he did over the summer. I doubt there will be a US realease, especially not of the same CD since he'd be an fool if he didn't know that anyone who would buy the CD if it was released here already has it from... u guessed it.. the dead internet.

And I second trying to find One Night Alone piano thru other means if you can. It's really one of my favorite CDs.

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

PurpleLove7 said:

Who said P was 'mad' at us?

Haven't you heard

Prince was so pissed because of some negative comments made about him on a little website called prince.org, that he willfully decided to punish all of his devoted fams throughtout the entire country that gush over his every whim, by not releasing 2010 in the US.

No mo' candy 4 fams! That'll certainly teach the negative bunch.

I would laugh at this but its probably true:

Australia, New Zealand, Asia, other countries in Europe not named the United Kingdom, Ireland, France, Portugal and Brazil, South America, and Canada were "left out". But why this country is singled out?

Big deal IMHO. In a way we WEREN'T left out. There were a lot of options. As of this point Prince can do what he wants. I'd actually be surprised to see the album in stores here in the U.S. but I ain't counting on it. Moving on to the next album.

NouveauDance said:

Just get it from the daily mirror website before they chuck what's left in a landfill.

PurpleLove7 said:

20Ten: America's Left Out !?!?

Is this a political prediction?

November, 2010: Left out.... Right in?

Lord help the world. Although O'Donnell makes me laugh. Its almost as if she was lifted into the public eye purely to make nutbag Palin look bright and sensible.

PurpleLove7 said:

So far 20Ten has not been released in the United States and P may pull an 'Exodus' on us.

Do you feel P has alienated the American fans of his music by doing this?

Nope LotusFlow3r was not released in UK, unlike alot of artist from the US Prince has worked out that it pays well to focus on the European market....Why?

1 - We STILL buy CD's

2- We STILL go to concerts

3- We support artist for life

4- We pay silly money for IMPORT CD's and ALBUM

5- If you want a recording career for life make sure you visit and play Europe

ALL Facts.....

Example Lady Ga Ga ....Kings of Leon .....etc..