Not so much the cursing, but his nastyness has been erased. (by somebody who's name I'm not gonna mention here )

That nastyness, sometimes more, sometimes less explicit, was always an ingredient for great songs. It's a basic emotion which adds some spice to our lives. Without that, it's like pizza without any topping, it stills your hunger but it just doesn't taste good

TweetyV6 said:

TweetyV6 said:

Not so much the cursing, but his nastyness has been erased. (by somebody who's name I'm not gonna mention here )

That nastyness, sometimes more, sometimes less explicit, was always an ingredient for great songs. It's a basic emotion which adds some spice to our lives. Without that, it's like pizza without any topping, it stills your hunger but it just doesn't taste good

Pizza is bad for you. Toppings are bad for you.

Doc told him to eat softer, less spicy easier to digest foods that are low in salt, fats and cholesterol. Absolutely no breads or sugar. Unflavored oatmeal is ok.

He's 52, sudden loud noises can kill him!

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nah, i accept him for who he is now.

i do not want him to go back in time.

if he started being what other people

want him 2 b again, it would b hard 4 me,

but i would also accept...but i think he

would be pretending coz its not where

his heart and mind are now...

[Edited 8/2/10 2:49am]

NelsonR said:

nah, i accept him for who he is now.

i do not want him to go back in time.

if he started being what other people

want him 2 b again, it would b hard 4 me,

but i would also accept...but i think he

would be pretending coz its not where

his heart and mind are now...

[Edited 8/2/10 2:49am]

Now try it again - but in English.

Spinlight said:

I could not care less if he swore in his music, but I sure as fuck am bored of his euphemisms for swearing. I knew when I heard "let me see you shake your pants" that it was all heading down a corny as fuck road.

Ha ha!! You are right. However I do miss the cussing-and was only saying it last night. I was listening to the Exodus album in front of people who think they couldn't care lees about Prince. I was drunk (doing that too muc lately) and banging on about how I miss his swearing. I don't think anyone has used the fuck word to better effect than Prince

Marrk said:

sro100 said:

The first few "clean" albums Prince played coy with dirty words; you know what he "would've" said. By calling attention to itself, Prince was "joking" with the fact you'd know what he "meant to say." Not so cool to me.

He also did this in concert. Even worse.

But, on this new album there really is none of that. No coy references to "what he really meant to say." I love that he throws in "doing it" on "Walk in Sand." It says it all.

Whatcha' all think?

At 52, it was about time he grew up, and i'm glad he no longer does.

I generally don't like swearing, though it has it's time and place.

I think it displays a lack of intelligence and/or limited vocabulary. People who punctuate every sentence they speak with foul language don't realise it takes less effort to say what you want in the first place without resorting to swearing. Say what you want, you don't have to put an 'F' word in front and in the middle of everything.

Motherfuckers.

Genius!!! Just spat my drink out reading that

purpledoveuk said:

TweetyV6 said:

Not so much the cursing, but his nastyness has been erased. (by somebody who's name I'm not gonna mention here )

That nastyness, sometimes more, sometimes less explicit, was always an ingredient for great songs. It's a basic emotion which adds some spice to our lives. Without that, it's like pizza without any topping, it stills your hunger but it just doesn't taste good

I thinK we all know that the time he started hanging with Garry Laham that he went from singing about ducking and being proud of women with big glasses to talking about walking on a beach. Now his tracks seem to be bank most of the time and some of the lyrics are totally ship. I blame that motherducking bunt Garry for taking my Princey away Fucking cunt...ooooppps. Seriously it ain't ALWAYS necessary but some of my fav tracks are centred around thingS Prince no longer deems clean...just ditch the songs then - I don't want to hear gett off referring to 23 surmons in a 1 night prayer meeting, or somebody being a Vexy Biscuit Dunker Look at Sir Cliff he used to swear in his prime....now look at him, tanned,leathery and stuck witha red doublececker bus

I believe the 80's profanity was more in context, had more synergy with his youthful urgency and art. The 90's cursing was kinda overkill and seemed from a bitterness and desperation to remain relevant. The 80's songs should be performed as they were written or not at all, the cursing is so miniscule that it seems stupid to add silly words. Most of his fanbase know that he currently isnt writing (nor speaking) profanity so if he used the word "masturbate" we wouldnt call him a hypocrite.

And i say more power to him, i'm less disciplined and still fuck up every now and then.

skywalker said:

thedance said:

the real Prince was cursing.... I liked that.

Head

Darling Nikki

Erotic City

Sexy Motherfucker

Pussy Control

great songs.. I just liked when Prince was trying to be bad and rude...

Now he's a polished conservative, does not suit him,

imo. and I am a liberal...

Well, that's stretching the truth quite a lot. Isn't it? Prince doesn't cuss anymore. That's it. He still sings about sex as much as God and anyone paying attention to the lyrics knows this.

I don't know many polished conservatives who wear heels, make-up, rock n' roll/pimp outfits. Also, do the songs "Head" or "Darling Nikki" contain any swear words?

Prince of 2010 is more like Prince of 1988 than many will admit. But, to each his own. If you think this guy is a "polished conservative" than good for you...

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My God I never thought I would see a picture of Prince that would shock me..........I was wrong

NelsonR said:

nah, i accept him for who he is now.

i do not want him to go back in time.

if he started being what other people

want him 2 b again, it would b hard 4 me,

but i would also accept...but i think he

would be pretending coz its not where

his heart and mind are now...

[Edited 8/2/10 2:49am]

Well, you could make an argument that by trying to fit into the beliefs of the JW's he is trying to be someone that he is not. I kind of dug it when his spirituality was much more nebulous and undefined. For me, it made it much easier to relate to.

jtfolden said:

I think there's a couple of issues to this...

Also, doesn't "intent" matter more than the words themselves??? If he's still singing about the same thing but simply couching it in different terms then what has he really accomplished? "I wanna go down south" = "head until your love is red"

EXACTLY.

Claire73 said:

I dont know...sometimes I miss the bad Prince,but then on the other hand,the man is 52 years old and it would seem a bit desperate if he was carrying on like he was in his earlier years. Madonna looks trashy because she's still trying to act young and appear "controversial"... TBH its embarassing

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This would be true if he were not making songs like "Laydown," -- a clearly desperate attempt to seem tough and cool. He still dosen't really act his age as none of the music he's making really reflects much personal maturity, other than the occasional half-assed "political" statement.

clovesandtea said:

Claire73 said:

I dont know...sometimes I miss the bad Prince,but then on the other hand,the man is 52 years old and it would seem a bit desperate if he was carrying on like he was in his earlier years. Madonna looks trashy because she's still trying to act young and appear "controversial"... TBH its embarassing

[Edited 8/1/10 15:17pm]

This would be true if he were not making songs like "Laydown," -- a clearly desperate attempt to seem tough and cool. He still dosen't really act his age as none of the music he's making really reflects much personal maturity, other than the occasional half-assed "political" statement.

Hmm. I think "My Name is Prince" is still the champion of this title.

skywalker said:

clovesandtea said:

This would be true if he were not making songs like "Laydown," -- a clearly desperate attempt to seem tough and cool. He still dosen't really act his age as none of the music he's making really reflects much personal maturity, other than the occasional half-assed "political" statement.

Hmm. I think "My Name is Prince" is still the champion of this title.

True. Champion indeed. But "Laydown" is certainly in the same category: "songs that just sound pathetic."

No. He could have cussed like a drunken sailor that just dropped a hammer on his toe, on Cause and Effect or Purple and Gold or Hot Summer. It would not have helped nor changed my mind that all 3 songs are just wretched.

I'm sure it would like to be thought...that the reason a great many Prince fans are not feeling his new music is simply because he no longer cusses but for the most part, that is just not the case, at all.

NelsonR said:

thedance said:

the real Prince was cursing.... I liked that.

Head

Darling Nikki

Erotic City

Sexy Motherfucker

Pussy Control

great songs.. I just liked when Prince was trying to be bad and rude...

Now he's a polished conservative, does not suit him,

imo. and I am a liberal...

that is Prince of the past.

Prince of the now is about the Lion of Judah,

and resolution that he's layin' down

truly an Act of God

Lame.

clovesandtea said:

Claire73 said:

I dont know...sometimes I miss the bad Prince,but then on the other hand,the man is 52 years old and it would seem a bit desperate if he was carrying on like he was in his earlier years. Madonna looks trashy because she's still trying to act young and appear "controversial"... TBH its embarassing

[Edited 8/1/10 15:17pm]

This would be true if he were not making songs like "Laydown," -- a clearly desperate attempt to seem tough and cool. He still dosen't really act his age as none of the music he's making really reflects much personal maturity, other than the occasional half-assed "political" statement.

But...but..."Mature" songs don't make me dance though

sro100 said:

The first few "clean" albums Prince played coy with dirty words; you know what he "would've" said. By calling attention to itself, Prince was "joking" with the fact you'd know what he "meant to say." Not so cool to me.

He also did this in concert. Even worse.

But, on this new album there really is none of that. No coy references to "what he really meant to say." I love that he throws in "doing it" on "Walk in Sand." It says it all.

Whatcha' all think?

I know cat doesn't believe he's 52 or in 'Time' unless that's changed but, if I wanna hear raunchy 'Rude Boy' Prince, I can just throw on the old album. I'm older and wiser and profanity doesn't fit much in my life anymore. I have kid that looks up to me and I have to be responsible for what comes out of my mouth now, just like P does lyrically.

It doesn't bother me. It's a trip (or odd) to hear an older song live with different lyrics though ...

Cussing is NOT the issue. The issue is the illusion of religion which has a major impact of the the thought process which goes into Prince's writing and lyrics.

Graycap23 said:

Cussing is NOT the issue. The issue is the illusion of religion which has a major impact of the the thought process which goes into Prince's writing and lyrics.

Care to show some concrete examples of this?

etifaim said:

clovesandtea said:

This would be true if he were not making songs like "Laydown," -- a clearly desperate attempt to seem tough and cool. He still dosen't really act his age as none of the music he's making really reflects much personal maturity, other than the occasional half-assed "political" statement.

But...but..."Mature" songs don't make me dance though

Hahaha, but does the "purple Yoda?" I mean, COME ON. That's embarrassing. "Funky town?" "Dirty new sound?" Really? There's nothing dirty or new about it. Grow up, P.

skywalker said:

Graycap23 said:

Cussing is NOT the issue. The issue is the illusion of religion which has a major impact of the the thought process which goes into Prince's writing and lyrics.

Care to show some concrete examples of this?

Sure.......pick a song, damn near any song from the past 11 years.

Graycap23 said:

skywalker said:

Care to show some concrete examples of this?

Sure.......pick a song, damn near any song from the past 11 years.

You made the claim that:

The issue is the illusion of religion which has a major impact of the the thought process which goes into Prince's writing and lyrics.

How does this relate to "Hot Wit U" for example?

clovesandtea said:

etifaim said:

But...but..."Mature" songs don't make me dance though

Hahaha, but does the "purple Yoda?" I mean, COME ON. That's embarrassing. "Funky town?" "Dirty new sound?" Really? There's nothing dirty or new about it. Grow up, P.

I hear ya. I guess I'm not expecting Prince to grow up. He's been doing silly/embarrassing/sub-par songs like this forever (just with different music styles and ever-evolving Prince jargon). Lately (well, the last 20 years) he's been channeling his inner MC with some songs; others have been new-wave, others indescribable . I don't think he knows anything different to be honest. Or it's just a method he uses to try and make the other tracks on his albums sound better.

I think we can all agree that none of us are surprised at songs like this, some of us just wince more than others about it, which is fine too

Rinluv said:

No, cursing doesnt make the music/song good..

i don't think so.

erotic city - it's so good because sheila wants "to fuck until the dawn".

Don't make a difference.

i do not think 'laydown' is prince trying to sound 'tough' as some1 suggested.

remember, he laid down the roots for newcomers the way james and g.clinton

for prince and others. he has also been doing such tracks for a while: "face

down" "days of wild"

there's nothing odd about enjoying prince's music in a certain phase more

than others. as long as we remember that just focusing on that period is not

doing justice 2 a complete understanding of his art, because he is the

collective of everything he has done so far.

personally, i dig the prince that engages in Bible study for a few hours a day.

if children are the future and we are to set a foundation for them, then what

prince is saying these days is much more conscious and considerate

of children than some of his raunchy lyrics...just a thought (while thinking of

'all the midnights in the world' and the happy feet jam

let us enjoy and embrace prince of the past, present and future

amen.

clovesandtea said:

etifaim said:

But...but..."Mature" songs don't make me dance though

Hahaha, but does the "purple Yoda?" I mean, COME ON. That's embarrassing. "Funky town?" "Dirty new sound?" Really? There's nothing dirty or new about it. Grow up, P.

Oh and making a Purple Yoda dance would attract the kids that like that "Crunk" shit-hop...

"Do the Purple Yoda! Do the Purple Yoda!"

etifaim said:

clovesandtea said:

Hahaha, but does the "purple Yoda?" I mean, COME ON. That's embarrassing. "Funky town?" "Dirty new sound?" Really? There's nothing dirty or new about it. Grow up, P.

Oh and making a Purple Yoda dance would attract the kids that like that "Crunk" shit-hop...

"Do the Purple Yoda! Do the Purple Yoda!"