BlackAdder7 said:

TonyVanDam said:

Remember, everyone is entitled to their strong opinions. And trust, I've heard far more negative opinions about Lennon/McCartney than these.

that's amazing to me, and closed minded imho.

Lennon and McCartney are the shit, possibly the greatest songwriters ever but Prince? man he's the total package-neither can match him as an individual talent and it takes their combined body of work to match him. And please, we dont want to talk about live performance where only MJ and JB reside in the same stratosphere.

BlackAdder7 said:

TonyVanDam said:

Remember, everyone is entitled to their strong opinions. And trust, I've heard far more negative opinions about Lennon/McCartney than these.

that's amazing to me, and closed minded imho.

Lennon and McCartney are the shit, possibly the greatest songwriters ever but Prince? man he's the total package-neither can match him as an individual talent and it takes their combined body of work to match him. And please, we dont want to talk about live performance where only MJ and JB reside in the same stratosphere.

jackson35 said:

most of the artist you have mention are still selling more records than prince right now. most of these artist are still getting more airplay right now than prince. most of these artist catalog are getting reissue with better sound while prince cds are out of print. prince cant touch any of these guys

Oh yeah, your the Prince aint funky guy lmao hows it goin?. Once again you fail to follow instructions and get into some bullshit. Did Prince take your girl?, is this Charlie Murphy?

Paris9748430 said:

jackson35 said:

prince ran out of gas as soon as the purple rain party was over so he does not rank above any of these artist. plus prince was getting his ass kick by most of his peers on the charts and on the road.

I see thinking isn't really your strong suit.

@jackson35, yeah how did that whole Sign of the Times thing work out?. Dude, whats the matter no old school funk sites you can troll around on?. How are you getting your ass kicked by peers when you have none?. Consider what Prince was in the context of his heyday, a genuis so by the time he was "gettin it" his peers (Stevie, Bowie, Dylan etc.) were reaching their golden years and starting to level out. Mike wasnt a peer musically, he was a commericial rival but trust me Prince wasnt shaken in his boots wondering what kind of ill shit MJ was gonna drop. Prince's peers or equals-musically are either older or dead so never mind the Stings and Madonna's of the world.

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dreamshaman32 said:

BlackAdder7 said:

that's amazing to me, and closed minded imho.

Lennon and McCartney are the shit, possibly the greatest songwriters ever but Prince? man he's the total package-neither can match him as an individual talent and it takes their combined body of work to match him. And please, we dont want to talk about live performance where only MJ and JB reside in the same stratosphere.

It's hard to compare Prince to two great songwriters. Intelectually I would pick the Beatles for that reason alone, however, I will stick with my original post because Prince's work just means more to me. Prince did have the benefit of coming after the Beatles, Stevie, and of course Sly-- all of whom were influences to some degree-- so it's probably not a fair comparison to begin with.

Prince has transcended all of them now

1. Prince is rank higher OR lower than Barry White? HIGHER

2. Prince is rank higher OR lower than Steve Wonder? HIGHER

3. Prince is rank higher OR lower than Rick James? AW looove rick to much, but HIGHER

4. Prince is rank higher OR lower than The Bee Gees? ??higher!

5. Prince is rank higher OR lower than David Bowie? Bowie is awesome, but HIGHER

6. Prince is rank higher OR lower than Sly Stone? love sly but HIGHER

7. Prince is rank higher OR lower than Lennon/McCartney? HIGHER

Higher than Barry White.

Lower than Steve Wonder.

Lower than Rick James.

Lower than The Bee Gees.

Higher than David Bowie.

Lower than Sly Stone.

MUCH LOWER THAN Lennon/McCartney.

Rank Prince higher or lower on what basis?

To me, the only criterion that matters is how much I like/listen to any of them. On that basis, Prince wins, hands down.

clovesandtea said:

Lower than Rick James.

Lower than The Bee Gees.

Genesia said:

Rank Prince higher or lower on what basis?

To me, the only criterion that matters is how much I like/listen to any of them. On that basis, Prince wins, hands down.

There IT is........

dreamshaman32 said:

Paris9748430 said:

I see thinking isn't really your strong suit.

@jackson35, yeah how did that whole Sign of the Times thing work out?. Dude, whats the matter no old school funk sites you can troll around on?. How are you getting your ass kicked by peers when you have none?. Consider what Prince was in the context of his heyday, a genuis so by the time he was "gettin it" his peers (Stevie, Bowie, Dylan etc.) were reaching their golden years and starting to level out. Mike wasnt a peer musically, he was a commericial rival but trust me Prince wasnt shaken in his boots wondering what kind of ill shit MJ was gonna drop. Prince's peers or equals-musically are either older or dead so never mind the Stings and Madonna's of the world.

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prince fame and popularity was slowley starting to fade because news artist were making the kind of records they wanted to hear. prince has lost touch with what was happening. none of the artist mention never lost touch of what their fans want.

jackson35 said:

dreamshaman32 said:

@jackson35, yeah how did that whole Sign of the Times thing work out?. Dude, whats the matter no old school funk sites you can troll around on?. How are you getting your ass kicked by peers when you have none?. Consider what Prince was in the context of his heyday, a genuis so by the time he was "gettin it" his peers (Stevie, Bowie, Dylan etc.) were reaching their golden years and starting to level out. Mike wasnt a peer musically, he was a commericial rival but trust me Prince wasnt shaken in his boots wondering what kind of ill shit MJ was gonna drop. Prince's peers or equals-musically are either older or dead so never mind the Stings and Madonna's of the world.

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prince fame and popularity was slowley starting to fade because news artist were making the kind of records they wanted to hear. prince has lost touch with what was happening. none of the artist mention never lost touch of what their fans want.

Only Stevie and Bowie recorded long enough to have peaks and valleys like Prince. But hey give me a list of those new artist who ended prince's career, kept him from the RRHOF, top grossing tours into his late 40's, Awards, and generally status as a musical icon. Newflash, a lot of lesser artst HAVE to guage popular taste and mimic what the people want. All genuis musicians challenge listeners and sometimes miss the mark, Bowie, Lennon, Dylan, Miles hell even Hendrix before he died. This is not hard stuff, and i cant believe i'm explaining it to you.

Higher Higher Higher Higher Higher Higher Higher

Prince is the best.

TonyVanDam said:

YESWECAN said:

Marvin Gaye couldn't hold a crack pipe to prince.

Let me know when Michael surpasses Elvis then we'll talk about musicians.

1. @ that Marvin Gaye comment.

2. Michael was bigger than Elvis a long time ago. What are you saying?!?

They're one in the same. Singer/ entertainers.

Wonder, white sly, lennon/Mcarthy. bowie, lower the rest higher!

Marrk said:

YESWECAN said:

Marvin Gaye couldn't hold a crack pipe to prince.

Let me know when Michael surpasses Elvis then we'll talk about musicians.

Marvin literally smokes Prince. As a writer, as a visionary, as a vocalist. Plus he was good looking.

What's an Elvis?

This is about artists, not musicians.

I just love the snobbery connected with the ability to play instruments in relation to Prince. It's so cute. I can paint and draw to a high level, but then, so can lots of people. It's not hard, you're either gifted or you can practice.

Same with instruments.

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I guess you should have delivered Marvin's eulogy. After his dad....aka Jungle fever.

Separarting musicianship from the the art of music is like separating the brush from the art of painting. Without Quincy Jones Michael would have been what?

YESWECAN said:

Marrk said:

Marvin literally smokes Prince. As a writer, as a visionary, as a vocalist. Plus he was good looking.

What's an Elvis?

This is about artists, not musicians.

I just love the snobbery connected with the ability to play instruments in relation to Prince. It's so cute. I can paint and draw to a high level, but then, so can lots of people. It's not hard, you're either gifted or you can practice.

Same with instruments.

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I guess you should have delivered Marvin's eulogy. After his dad....aka Jungle fever.

Separarting musicianship from the the art of music is like separating the brush from the art of painting. Without Quincy Jones Michael would have been what?

Michael Jackson? + Underrated?

Quincys involvement is overstated, exaggerated and misunderstood.

I'll ignore the Marvin comment.

Marrk said:

Marvin literally smokes Prince. As a writer, as a visionary, as a vocalist. Plus he was good looking.

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Marvin never recorded a masterpiece album though, his only solid works were I Want You, Here My Dear and In Our Lifetime. The lyrics often tended to the stale and childishly idealistic, songs like Save The Children are hard to stomach.

elmer said:

Marrk said:

Marvin literally smokes Prince. As a writer, as a visionary, as a vocalist. Plus he was good looking.

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Marvin never recorded a masterpiece album though, his only solid works were I Want You, Here My Dear and In Our Lifetime. The lyrics often tended to the stale and childishly idealistic, songs like Save The Children are hard to stomach.

What's going on ???????

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A masterpiece album !

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Joyinrepatition said:

1. Prince is rank higher OR lower than Barry White? ... Higher

2. Prince is rank higher OR lower than Steve Wonder? ... Higher

3. Prince is rank higher OR lower than Rick James? ... Higher

4. Prince is rank higher OR lower than The Bee Gees? ... Higher

5. Prince is rank higher OR lower than David Bowie? ... Higher

6. Prince is rank higher OR lower than Sly Stone? ...Higher

7. Prince is rank higher OR lower than Lennon/McCartney? ... Lower



My thoughts exactly.

Marrk said:

YESWECAN said:

I guess you should have delivered Marvin's eulogy. After his dad....aka Jungle fever.

Separarting musicianship from the the art of music is like separating the brush from the art of painting. Without Quincy Jones Michael would have been what?

Michael Jackson? + Underrated?

Quincys involvement is overstated, exaggerated and misunderstood.

I'll ignore the Marvin comment.

So you were on the sound board while they put Off the wall, Bad and Thriller? And Michael's prolific game changing song/album after that was?

Separarting musicianship from the the art of music is like separating the brush from the art of painting.

yankem said:

A masterpiece album !

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Nah, 4 classic songs but the rest are friggin' awful.

elmer said:

yankem said:

A masterpiece album !

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Nah, 4 classic songs but the rest are friggin' awful.

I think it's useless to go further, we should agree to disagree, no more, no less.

yankem said:

elmer said:

Nah, 4 classic songs but the rest are friggin' awful.

I think it's useless to go further, we should agree to disagree, no more, no less.

I know I'm not an audiophile of Marvin Gaye, but I just have the belief that Marvin Gaye wasn't in the same ball park of Prince's total package of talent.

Please, point me in the right direction if I'm wrong.

YESWECAN said:

yankem said:

I think it's useless to go further, we should agree to disagree, no more, no less.

I know I'm not an audiophile of Marvin Gaye, but I just have the belief that Marvin Gaye wasn't in the same ball park of Prince's total package of talent.

Please, point me in the right direction if I'm wrong.

This record is very important because it was with this one that Marvin broke free. Before this one, he was singing words written by others and produced by others (you know the Motown corporation). He had the album in his head but Berry Gordy wouldn't want this kind of concept album written and produced by one man (Motown wasn't working this way). Marvin held firm on is position and said he would quit Motown if he couldn't do the record he wanted to do and write and produce it himself (he didn't wrote Slave on his cheek but he was in the middle of a battle for artistic control over his work...). You know the rest, he won and I think Berry Gordy did never regret it. This album (anti war, with one of the first song on ecology, describing the poor surbubian life...) is considered a masterpiece, often classified as one of the best soul album.

Don't get me wrong, I don't want to compare Prince and Marvin, I don't think that you can really compare two artists ( and if they don't live in the same period of time thus not reacting to the same things happening in their world, it's even harder...) Well, you can do it just for fun but on a Prince site, Prince will always win and I think it's perfectly natural !!!!

1. Prince is rank higher OR lower than Barry White? Much Higher

2. Prince is rank higher OR lower than Steve Wonder? Much Lower

3. Prince is rank higher OR lower than Rick James? Higher

4. Prince is rank higher OR lower than The Bee Gees? Much Lower

5. Prince is rank higher OR lower than David Bowie? even

6. Prince is rank higher OR lower than Sly Stone? higher

7. Prince is rank higher OR lower than Lennon/McCartney? Much Much Lower

Higher

Higher

Higher

Higher

Higher

Higher

Lower

yankem said:

elmer said:

Nah, 4 classic songs but the rest are friggin' awful.

One of the greatest albums ever recorded!

And "Let's Get It On" ain't have bad, either.

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