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maybe prince is on the right track now? Hey everyone. Long time no see. I had a spare moment to log in and post something. Wanted to mention that the collection of news on the front page seems to indicate as a whole that Prince might be actually reverting back to an artistic state of mind.
1. His new look via the artwork for the concert. 2. Headed back to Paris? Pretty good indications that maybe he is willing to go back to making music in the fashion Prince knows how to - experimental or not. You see folks, Prince knows how to make great music. This is no secret to him. He knows exactly how to cut a single and make it sound like a funky cool work. The thing is, he doesn't want to. He has everything he needs to get through a couple more lifetimes financially. So, if he wants to make shit, he's going to make shit. But I have some hope now, since his look usually indicates what his method will be, and his desire to relocate to a more open-minded musical environment. [Edited 5/25/10 16:20pm] | |
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moderatorAnd how much did he pay you to write this?
If Prince wants to make shit just because, then he's not an artist at all. True artists create music or whatever for the love of it, and they throw themselves mind, body, soul into their creations. This just proves my point, Prince is a musician, not a composer or a writer. When he surrounded himself with composers, poets, e.g. W&L, he could (ahem) 'create'. Ain't no 'generator' in his camp now, so the well has long since run dry. He's runnin' to Europe to get his ego stroked. He ain't got the guts to play in the U.S. anymore, except for those private wealthy clients. Will the real Christopher Tracy please stand up? He oughta just go back to stealin' other folks music and taking credit for it. | |
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Lots of conjecture, and an unhealthy amount of down talking. | |
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skoolteecher said: And how much did he pay you to write this?
If Prince wants to make shit just because, then he's not an artist at all. True artists create music or whatever for the love of it, and they throw themselves mind, body, soul into their creations. This just proves my point, Prince is a musician, not a composer or a writer. When he surrounded himself with composers, poets, e.g. W&L, he could (ahem) 'create'. Ain't no 'generator' in his camp now, so the well has long since run dry. He's runnin' to Europe to get his ego stroked. He ain't got the guts to play in the U.S. anymore, except for those private wealthy clients. Will the real Christopher Tracy please stand up? He oughta just go back to stealin' other folks music and taking credit for it. whoa whoa whoa !! schoolteecher... vendetta , vendetta are you overly excited about new stuff coming out this summer ?? Sounds like your patience is wearing thin. Its gonna be ok you'll get your dose of prince in a couple weeks  | |
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ernestsewell said: Lots of conjecture, and an unhealthy amount of down talking.
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i would argue that Prince is very dismayed at his lack of a real hit song or album in a while. Being #1 or #2 for one week (based in some cases on gimmicks) is not the same as being popular. He is dying to have a huge hit. He is desperate for the glory days of 84/85 or hell 91/91. "Keep on shilling for Big Pharm!" |
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OnlyNDaUsa said: i would argue that Prince is very dismayed at his lack of a real hit song or album in a while. Being #1 or #2 for one week (based in some cases on gimmicks) is not the same as being popular. He is dying to have a huge hit. He is desperate for the glory days of 84/85 or hell 91/91.
prince was inducted into the rock n roll hall of fame why would he be desperate to relive his glory days?? the mans already made it HES LIVING HIS GLORY DAYS | |
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If he's not on the way back to the Bay Area, preferably Oakland, then he's definitely NOT on the right track. | |
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I no longer hype myself up for new Prince albums. I hate to put it this way but I have been disappointed each and every time since Grafitti Bridge, though The Rainbow Children and 3121 were pleasant surprises that I enjoyed...for a little while, anyways.
I was soooo hyped for MPLSound, the first time I let myself get caught up in the hype in a long time, and...yikes. Will I be there the first day that the new albun hits the shelves? Absolutely. Am I waiting with baited breath, expecting the return of his greatness? Nah.   She has robes and she has monkeys, lazy diamond studded flunkies.... | |
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PicklesMcMillan said: prince was inducted into the rock n roll hall of fame why would he be desperate to relive his glory days?? the mans already made it HES LIVING HIS GLORY DAYS So you do think he is happy with the success of his last few albums? "Keep on shilling for Big Pharm!" |
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OnlyNDaUsa said: PicklesMcMillan said: prince was inducted into the rock n roll hall of fame why would he be desperate to relive his glory days?? the mans already made it HES LIVING HIS GLORY DAYS So you do think he is happy with the success of his last few albums? I'll jump in my with my two cents on this. I think Prince negotiated one-time contracts with record labels and national big box stores to distribute and market his last few records in a way that paid him well whether or not he sold one single physical copy. So in that sense, yes, I think he's happy with their success. Plus, he got them out there to the people who wanted them without making himself a "slave". But I'm STILL waiting for him to realize that with a little work he'd make more money doing all this on his own. [Edited 5/25/10 17:43pm] | |
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Cerebus said: OnlyNDaUsa said: So you do think he is happy with the success of his last few albums? I'll jump in my with my two cents on this. I think Prince negotiated one-time contracts with record labels and national big box stores to distribute and market his last few records in a way that paid him well whether or not he sold one single physical copy. So in that sense, yes, I think he's happy with their success. Plus, he got them out there to the people who wanted them without making himself a "slave". But I'm STILL waiting for him to realize that with a little work he'd make more money doing all this on his own. I am not talking about money. But I think he too confuses the two, I am talking about substantiated sales an popularity--sans silly gimmicks. "Keep on shilling for Big Pharm!" |
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OnlyNDaUsa said: Cerebus said: I'll jump in my with my two cents on this. I think Prince negotiated one-time contracts with record labels and national big box stores to distribute and market his last few records in a way that paid him well whether or not he sold one single physical copy. So in that sense, yes, I think he's happy with their success. Plus, he got them out there to the people who wanted them without making himself a "slave". But I'm STILL waiting for him to realize that with a little work he'd make more money doing all this on his own. I am not talking about money. But I think he too confuses the two, I am talking about substantiated sales an popularity--sans silly gimmicks. I hear ya, but I don't think he cares anymore. Winning game is more important than the end result, sales wise. Same with his issues in regards to remastering and re-releasing old material, as well as never officially releasing any of the unreleased tracks that he KNOWS his fans want. Dude just wants to be in complete control of whatever it is he believes to be "right". In some ways I respect it, in some ways I loath it. | |
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he's always been on the right track, just like everyone else, its only other peoples judgments who say otherwise this too shall pass | |
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Rockability said: Hey everyone. Long time no see. I had a spare moment to log in and post something. Wanted to mention that the collection of news on the front page seems to indicate as a whole that Prince might be actually reverting back to an artistic state of mind.
1. His new look via the artwork for the concert. 2. Headed back to Paris? Pretty good indications that maybe he is willing to go back to making music in the fashion Prince knows how to - experimental or not. You see folks, Prince knows how to make great music. This is no secret to him. He knows exactly how to cut a single and make it sound like a funky cool work. The thing is, he doesn't want to. He has everything he needs to get through a couple more lifetimes financially. So, if he wants to make shit, he's going to make shit. But I have some hope now, since his look usually indicates what his method will be, and his desire to relocate to a more open-minded musical environment. [Edited 5/25/10 16:20pm] So you're saying Prince is purposefully making crap? But now that he is headed to Paris and uses artwork that is reminiscent of 10 years ago...this is an indication he's on the right track? IMO, I think you're grasping here. I don't agree that Prince doesn't want to make funky cool music. I think he thinks he is making funky cool music, but it's coming off as tired and bland. Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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My sentiments exactly. | |
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If he's on the right track now, why would he put some much energy and time into being on the wrong track before? FUNKNROLL!  "February 2014, wow". 'dre.  | |
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Its not that serious. The threade starter must be a newbie, because ,long term fans of Prince know that Prince only makes music that HE likes.
He doesn't give a fuck whether you like it or not. This IS what makes him an ARTIST. He makes music that he's feeling. Sometimes it takes us fans years before we are ready to appreciate what he puts out, some of his music has to grow on us.
Sometimes we dig it and love it instantly.
Paris has nothing to do with his music, he was making great music before Paris. His music is what is is to the listener, it can be great or it can suck.
Not everyone is the same, not everyone will relate or even like what he puts out, it is what it is.
Love what you love, Prince will keep making music whether yoy like it, hate it, or choose to never listen to him again.
He makes music for himself people, not for us. IF we like it, and appreciate it.... then its great. If not, then there's always the next project to look forward to. | |
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Baloney. The man makes the kind of music he likes. There's nothing for him to "get back to" since he's already done it, unless you're still stuck in the 80s trying to fill a void in your life you think he could fill for you. He's achieved success through the 80s and has moved on to playing various types of music since then. | |
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lawd! you raw! | |
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I agree with this... I wish/wonder if Prince would calibrate success in more creative terms. He emerged on the broader scene as a pop artist who changed the (or at least carved his own) direction of the popular scene. I know few if any artists ever achieve what he did in that regard, and it is near impossible for them to do it more than once.
Still, in his own music, I wish he would show a greater experimentation--a serious engagement with other genres (personally I found the NEWS stuff promising), and a more comprehensive concern with every day human living in his lyrics. (Not omniscient narratives that have all the answers.)
Yes, he gets the money... and his touring will bank him a nice sum. But for an artist who once forced his audience to broaden our own musical ears, it's (sales) is such a cynical measure. "I got paid so who gives a fuck?"
Lotusflow3r (the cd) was a strong outing (to me). [Don't get me started on the disaster of a website] MPLSound not so much, Elixir great songwriting and production for a mediocre vocalist. So in terms of the music I think he's well capable of what I hope for when I hear rumors of another release. As a live act, he is unparalleled (and I sure wish he'd do a few hit and runs in the U.S. to warm up his band for Europe!).
But as far as him being on track, I agree he seems to be the most comfortable (or at least represents himself that way) than at any other time I've seen or read of him in public. His music reflects that stability--it IS less edgy, which I do miss. "That...magic, the start of something revolutionary-the Minneapolis Sound, we should cherish it and not punish prince for not being able to replicate it."-Dreamshaman32 | |
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I couldn't agree with you more...my first thought was "newbie"....not familiar with Prince and his music at all. Prince is Prince and always will be. He does exactly what he wants as does he makes the music that he is feeling at that time in his life...i.e Rainbow Children...it was made for Prince(he said it) and whoever didn't like it he said fuck em(I'm paraphasing). Lemme | |
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and kudos to my gurl Duecy for calling a spade a spade. | |
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