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Thread started 05/07/10 4:48pm

jonty1975

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2 quick questions

let me start by saying im not trying to cause contoversy, but i have 2 questions that make me curious.

in Anna Stesia he writes - "Have U ever wanted 2 play with someone so much
U'd take any one boy or girl?

and

Diamond and pearls "would you be a happy boy or a girl"

There is probably more but these 2 stand out recently, what are meant by these lyrics, or what do you think is meant by them, i have copped it all my life about prince's sexuality and felt the need to defend him all the time and then there is lyrics like this that fuel the jealous haters...
"was i the first, was i your every fantasy"
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Reply #1 posted 05/07/10 4:57pm

bluefish

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jonty1975 said:

let me start by saying im not trying to cause contoversy, but i have 2 questions that make me curious.

in Anna Stesia he writes - "Have U ever wanted 2 play with someone so much
U'd take any one boy or girl?

and

Diamond and pearls "would you be a happy boy or a girl"

There is probably more but these 2 stand out recently, what are meant by these lyrics, or what do you think is meant by them, i have copped it all my life about prince's sexuality and felt the need to defend him all the time and then there is lyrics like this that fuel the jealous haters...

I think you're reading into it too much. The Anna Stesia lyric doesn't necessarily have a sexual connotation: perhaps he was just lonely and wanted someone to hang out with, and didn't care if it was a male or a female.

Diamonds and Pearls is a "love song" to the fans, I think. He has fans of both sexes, so he says, "If I gave you (my songs), would you be [...] happy (fans)?"

Just my two cents, but what do I know?
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Reply #2 posted 05/07/10 4:58pm

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Make of them as you please, thought provoking lyrics are what they say on the tin... smile
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Reply #3 posted 05/07/10 5:37pm

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anna stesia seems to be a very honest and lonely lyric. the 'boy or girl'
part just underlines the loneliness, to good effect imo.

diamonds & pearls seems, to me, like it was just a good fit, not really
something he was probably very bent on getting into the song. but there
are only so many things you can rhyme with 'pearls' and then there are
only so many adjectives you can put in front of girl in that particular
space in the song. so i'm guessing 'boy or a' was just there and it did
seem kinda right.

but in the end it's a silly lyric. it makes you imagine prince giving a
diamond or a string of pearls to a boy, and that's an image i somehow
just don't like.
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #4 posted 05/07/10 8:12pm

nursev

Please let's not even go there with the lyrics-just enjoy them and Don't mess with D&P lol
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Reply #5 posted 05/08/10 5:39am

IstenSzek

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nursev said:

Please let's not even go there with the lyrics-just enjoy them and Don't mess with D&P lol


sorry redface

lol
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #6 posted 05/08/10 2:27pm

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jonty1975 said:

let me start by saying im not trying to cause contoversy, but i have 2 questions that make me curious.

in Anna Stesia he writes - "Have U ever wanted 2 play with someone so much
U'd take any one boy or girl?

and

Diamond and pearls "would you be a happy boy or a girl"

There is probably more but these 2 stand out recently, what are meant by these lyrics, or what do you think is meant by them, i have copped it all my life about prince's sexuality and felt the need to defend him all the time and then there is lyrics like this that fuel the jealous haters...




Next time some hater gives you a hard time, dont say nothin.
Just show this.
That'll shut em up.

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Reply #7 posted 05/09/10 1:44am

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Someone convinced Prince to pose like this and that always makes me laugh.

"No, Prince. You'll look amazing standing there in those clothes... what? You want to leap around in them? Sure I'll take some picts. Oh, don't worry, if they look silly, we can destroy the negatives."


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Reply #8 posted 05/09/10 3:16am

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jonty1975 said:

i have copped it all my life about prince's sexuality and felt the need to defend him all the time and then there is lyrics like this that fuel the jealous haters...

Why do you feel the need to defend that?
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Reply #9 posted 05/09/10 3:48am

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NouveauDance said:

jonty1975 said:

i have copped it all my life about prince's sexuality and felt the need to defend him all the time and then there is lyrics like this that fuel the jealous haters...

Why do you feel the need to defend that?


because he isnt gay
"was i the first, was i your every fantasy"
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Reply #10 posted 05/09/10 4:30am

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madhouseman said:

Someone convinced Prince to pose like this and that always makes me laugh.

"No, Prince. You'll look amazing standing there in those clothes... what? You want to leap around in them? Sure I'll take some picts. Oh, don't worry, if they look silly, we can destroy the negatives."


[/quote]

That comment made me laugh so much...thank you!
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Reply #11 posted 05/09/10 5:39am

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I think it's more a case of clunky rhyming lol
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Reply #12 posted 05/09/10 6:44am

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The D&P lyric always intrigued me, too. I'd love to have people's interpretation on that. i never thought of it being a love song to his fans as mentioned above but y not? Other theories?
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Reply #13 posted 05/09/10 6:45am

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& while we're at it: "Gregory looks like a ghost". Greg Brooks? Why?
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Reply #14 posted 05/10/10 10:00pm

nursev

IstenSzek said:

nursev said:

Please let's not even go there with the lyrics-just enjoy them and Don't mess with D&P lol


sorry redface

lol


lol wink
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Reply #15 posted 05/11/10 2:48am

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jonty1975 said:

let me start by saying im not trying to cause contoversy, but i have 2 questions that make me curious.

in Anna Stesia he writes - "Have U ever wanted 2 play with someone so much
U'd take any one boy or girl?

and

Diamond and pearls "would you be a happy boy or a girl"

There is probably more but these 2 stand out recently, what are meant by these lyrics, or what do you think is meant by them, i have copped it all my life about prince's sexuality and felt the need to defend him all the time and then there is lyrics like this that fuel the jealous haters...


Prince is human, human nature does not escape him...he had his "college years", it's safe to say.
"Its flier to B hungry than fat"
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Reply #16 posted 05/11/10 2:50am

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jonty1975 said:

let me start by saying im not trying to cause contoversy, but i have 2 questions that make me curious.

in Anna Stesia he writes - "Have U ever wanted 2 play with someone so much
U'd take any one boy or girl?

and

Diamond and pearls "would you be a happy boy or a girl"

There is probably more but these 2 stand out recently, what are meant by these lyrics, or what do you think is meant by them, i have copped it all my life about prince's sexuality and felt the need to defend him all the time and then there is lyrics like this that fuel the jealous haters...


u forgot "moviestar", "grab somebody for a quick dance, boy or girl it don't matter Im hot!"...
"Its flier to B hungry than fat"
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Reply #17 posted 05/11/10 6:16am

SoulAlive

madhouseman said:

Someone convinced Prince to pose like this and that always makes me laugh.

"No, Prince. You'll look amazing standing there in those clothes... what? You want to leap around in them? Sure I'll take some picts. Oh, don't worry, if they look silly, we can destroy the negatives."


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lol I think we should ban this picture from ever being posted here!
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Reply #18 posted 05/11/10 6:30am

TyphoonTip

SoulAlive said:

madhouseman said:

Someone convinced Prince to pose like this and that always makes me laugh.

"No, Prince. You'll look amazing standing there in those clothes... what? You want to leap around in them? Sure I'll take some picts. Oh, don't worry, if they look silly, we can destroy the negatives."




lol I think we should ban this picture from ever being posted here![/quote]

What this one ^ ? wink
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Reply #19 posted 05/11/10 6:33am

SoulAlive

stop it! lol
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Reply #20 posted 05/11/10 7:15pm

TyphoonTip

SoulAlive said:

stop it! lol


You didn't answer my question... I'm not sure I understand? You did mean this one right?? Just so I can be sure and not accidentally post it again!


lol lol lol lol lol lol lol
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Reply #21 posted 05/11/10 7:29pm

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TyphoonTip said:

SoulAlive said:

stop it! lol


You didn't answer my question... I'm not sure I understand? You did mean this one right?? Just so I can be sure and not accidentally post it again!



No, no.

They meant this one.
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Reply #22 posted 05/11/10 7:30pm

CocoRock

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Don't mess with D&P lol

barf
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Reply #23 posted 05/11/10 7:41pm

nursev

CocoRock said:

nursev said:

Don't mess with D&P lol

barf



lol
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Reply #24 posted 05/12/10 6:56am

TyphoonTip

sexyfunkystrange said:

TyphoonTip said:



You didn't answer my question... I'm not sure I understand? You did mean this one right?? Just so I can be sure and not accidentally post it again!



No, no.

They meant this one.


Just making sure it was indeed this one ^^ . Cheers. biggrin
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Reply #25 posted 05/12/10 7:48am

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I agree with Isten. The Anna Stesia lyric seems meant genuinely to represent an existential uncertainty which includes sexual ambivalence.
D&P just seems like a throwaway song with throwaway lyrics. He did play around with a very bi image duing the d&P era (gangster glam vid, arsenio performance), whereas in the 90s it was less a bi thing as a genderfuck, "am I straight or gay" thing.
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Reply #26 posted 05/12/10 7:53am

nursev

The D&P hate up in here is just barf lol
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Reply #27 posted 05/12/10 8:59am

rbrpm

Amen ya'll! eek
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Reply #28 posted 05/12/10 12:32pm

CocoRock

nursev said:

The D&P hate up in here is just barf lol

It's not entirely undeserved though. wink
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