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Thread started 05/07/10 6:47am

paisleypark4

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Sign O The Times rehearsals?

I am about to buy it however I just want to know what you guys think of it? I never heard ANY of the rehearsals of those shows and I hear they are outstanding? Look like it comes with some very nice artwork too!
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Reply #1 posted 05/07/10 7:13am

ernestsewell

They are great. It's interesting to hear how Prince originally intended the show to be. I remember Sheila E saying how he had almost laid out the entire album to play with old hits here and there. Then he started changing things. Like he took out "Dorothy Parker" in favor of "Girls and Boys", etc. You'll also hear how he suddenly changed "Beautiful Night" from the version we know to the faster paced one in the SOTT movie. Get them.
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Reply #2 posted 05/07/10 7:42am

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Agree with Ernest
but do not buy it.....you might find it! biggrin
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Reply #3 posted 05/07/10 8:44am

vitriol

4DaFunk's version is way better than Sabotage's. And it's for free.
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Reply #4 posted 05/07/10 10:42am

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If you like rehearsals, these are must-have's. Excellent sound.
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Reply #5 posted 05/07/10 11:57am

nursev

interesting-sounds nice wink
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Reply #6 posted 05/07/10 1:38pm

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DO NOT get the Sabotage version. The speed is off, it runs too fast. 4DaFunk's version is the proper one. The first 2 cds are a complete run through of the SOTT album, minus It and Adore. You can find Adore on the 3rd CD, which is a later rehearsal than the first.
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Reply #7 posted 05/07/10 2:12pm

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revearse covers to see track-list!


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Reply #8 posted 05/08/10 10:58am

vitriol

Correct. Even if 4DF used Sab's version as a source, they improved it big time.

Sab's version is out of pitch: parts of it run too fast, parts of it run too slow. And you get the occasional glitch here and there.

4DaFunk's version is glitchless and correctly pitched. And, of course, for free.
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Reply #9 posted 05/08/10 11:12am

ernestsewell

vitriol said:

Correct. Even if 4DF used Sab's version as a source, they improved it big time.

Sab's version is out of pitch: parts of it run too fast, parts of it run too slow. And you get the occasional glitch here and there.

4DaFunk's version is glitchless and correctly pitched. And, of course, for free.

Here's the info from 4DaFunk's release:

Sourced from the Sabotage release 'Sign O' The Times Rehearsal Sessions 1.0' this is 4DaFunk's reworked version of a much respected bootleg. Rehash I hear you say? Well on this occasion, most definitely not. Rehash would suggest the release had been put through SoundForge or some other programme and released with minimal improvement - this couldn't be further from the truth in this case. Sabotage's release was great indeed but the pitch on the 21st February rehearsal was ridiculously slow - look at the time differences between the Sabotage version and this 4DaFunk version - 4DaFunk have knocked off 2:30 just by correcting the speed of the rehearsal on Disc 1 alone. Now, as good as the Sab release was, this has really made it obsolete in that respect that this one runs at a proper speed and the Sab version doesn't. The rehearsal on Discs 1 & 2 from 21st February is one of the clearest soundboard recordings from the era so any improvements 4DaFunk had to make have been minimal as it was so impressive to begin with. It's a fascinating look at the preparation for the early stage of the tour with 14 of the 16 tracks from the Sign O' The Times album performed and 'Kiss' being the only major "hit" played. Not only is it one of the best quality recordings, but it is also one of the best performed rehearsals with the band interacting between songs. Interestingly the 'Little Red Corvette' segue between 'Play In The Sunshine' and 'Housequake' is yet to be added to the set-list and Prince ends 'Play In The Sunshine' as on the album with an abrupt "Shut up already". 'The Ballad Of Dorothy Parker' is played (as it was once during the tour) segueing into 'Four'. 'Strange Relationship' includes the complete "squirrel meat" lyric from 'Superfunky' and is repeated again during 'It's Gonna Be A Beautiful Night'. The remainder of Disc 2 contains a rehearsal concentrating on various takes of 'The Sex Of It'. It is dates as August/September 1987 however it's safe to assume it's from August as the first live performance of the song took place on 5th September and in this rehearsal the band are not at all familiar with the track. In terms of content it's not exactly the kind of rehearsal which would get multiple listens as the content is very repetitive. Prince talks the band through the changes, lyrics and music with a fair amount of emphasis on the horn part. The rehearsal suffered from a great deal of hiss and I'm pleasantly surprised at the amount this has been reduced on this particular version. It's still there, but only audible and noticeable at any great volume or with headphones on. Disc 3 and part of Disc 4 contains the last circulating Sign O' The Times tour rehearsal. Presumably in preparation for the upcoming US tour which was talked about during the US promotion of the Sign O' The Times concert movie - yet another project which never saw the light of day. The main bulk of the European leg of the tour remains however 'Erotic City' (very similar to the Lovesexy tour opener) proceeds 'Housequake'. The mid-section of Disc 3 is radically different from any other Sign O' The Times rehearsal or show and contains both 'Do Me, Baby' and a full length 'Adore' (which unfortunately is incomplete and fades out around 5:45). 'Hot Thing' is followed by a lazy guitar groove and drum beat with the band whispering "Baby, baby what's your name?" and features Prince adding a few lines from both 'Love Or $' and 'Data Bank' before Dr. Fink cues in 'Let's Pretend We're Married' which in turn segues into 'Delirious' and 'Jack U Off' (again the latter two tracks reminiscent of the Lovesexy tour). The remainder of the rehearsal is unsurprising except the addition of 'U Got The Look' which was never played during the tour and a brief impersonation of Terence Trent Darby during 'It's Gonna Be A Beautiful Night'. Throughout the show the energy level is high with Prince calling out "Pittsburgh" on various occasions. Similarly with the February 21st rehearsal, the quality of the recording is superb and it would be unfair of me to pass any criticism on it. There are a couple of fades in/out, but considering the overall quality it's really not such so major. Disc 4 closes out with the 'Baby Go Go' rehearsal and is very similar to the 'The Sex Of It' rehearsal in terms of content and quality. Prince recited the lyrics to the track firstly ("Everyone got a pencil?") before they rehearse various takes of the song both instrumental and with lyrics. Again, the Sabotage version had an audible hiss which was slightly distracting, and 4DaFunk have greatly reduced the hiss and cleaned up the sound. It's still not of comparable quality to the 2 Sign O' The Times rehearsals featured on here, but is far superior to the Sabotage version. Overall this is an excellent refreshed version of one of the best bootlegs ever released. The corrected running speed of the 21st February rehearsal is the main draw here, but throughout there are various fixed glitches, etc which make this such a worthwhile release.

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Reply #10 posted 05/08/10 6:25pm

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love these rehearsals touched
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Reply #11 posted 05/10/10 11:18am

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purplepolitician said:

love these rehearsals touched



I just heard the first and second disc..AWESOME!

Funny to hear Prince sing "Fake" by Alexander Oneal during Sex Of It. Hot Thing wasa little bland compared to the live version..Ballad Of Dorothy Parker..AWESOME..Starfish & Coffee..awesome...the whole thing is pretty fn good.
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