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The Arms Of Orion cd-single video experiment

From http://www.princevault.co...s_Of_Orion
The CD single contained an unannounced .cdi file, which played a slideshow of unrelated pictures and poems with The Arms Of Orion as a soundtrack when entered into a computer. This video had no input from Prince and should not be considered a promotional video, but an experiment by Warner Bros. into the technology that was available using CD singles, and was advanced for its time.

eek

I didn't even think there were computer with CD-players anywhere on earth in october 1989!!! Obviously at the time no one could even discover this video until years later when they put the CD in their computer to rip it!

Or what???

This was so ahead of its time eek eek eek eek eek
[Edited 4/30/10 18:03pm]
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Reply #1 posted 04/30/10 6:15pm

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There were several major label CD releases in the late 80s early 90s that had so-called graphics. Some titles I remember are: Lou Reed - New York; Information Society; Fleetwood Mac - Behind the Mask. There was a sticker on the longbox (remember those?) which said "CD+graphics" and that the graphics part could be seen if you played it in a computer. As you point out, who was even listening to CDs on a computer in 1989?
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Reply #2 posted 04/30/10 6:38pm

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I just popped my German 3" Cd-Single of The Arms Of Orion in and there was no .cdi file. mad Maybe only the UK or Japanese CDs had it.

Manufactured in Germany

GEMA/BIEM LC 0392

W 2757 CD

921 394-2

1. The Arms Of Orion (5:03)
2. I Love U In Me (4:12)
3. The Arms Of Orion (Edit) (3:52)
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Reply #3 posted 04/30/10 7:55pm

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Reply #4 posted 04/30/10 8:00pm

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nursev said:

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What?
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Reply #5 posted 05/01/10 1:32am

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squirrelgrease said:

I just popped my German 3" Cd-Single of The Arms Of Orion in and there was no .cdi file. mad Maybe only the UK or Japanese CDs had it.

Manufactured in Germany

GEMA/BIEM LC 0392

W 2757 CD

921 394-2

1. The Arms Of Orion (5:03)
2. I Love U In Me (4:12)
3. The Arms Of Orion (Edit) (3:52)


AFAIK your computer can't detect it.
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Reply #6 posted 05/01/10 1:34am

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databank said:

From http://www.princevault.co...s_Of_Orion
The CD single contained an unannounced .cdi file, which played a slideshow of unrelated pictures and poems with The Arms Of Orion as a soundtrack when entered into a computer. This video had no input from Prince and should not be considered a promotional video, but an experiment by Warner Bros. into the technology that was available using CD singles, and was advanced for its time.

eek

I didn't even think there were computer with CD-players anywhere on earth in october 1989!!! Obviously at the time no one could even discover this video until years later when they put the CD in their computer to rip it!

Or what???

This was so ahead of its time eek eek eek eek eek
[Edited 4/30/10 18:03pm]


Bad info at that site. Computer could NEVER detect it; AFAIK someone once developed a hacky driver for Win95 PCs that could detect the file, but it won't pop up in regular PCS, AFAIK.

Because it wasn't meant for PCs, it was meant for this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CD-i .
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Reply #7 posted 05/01/10 8:44am

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BartVanHemelen said:

databank said:

From http://www.princevault.co...s_Of_Orion
The CD single contained an unannounced .cdi file, which played a slideshow of unrelated pictures and poems with The Arms Of Orion as a soundtrack when entered into a computer. This video had no input from Prince and should not be considered a promotional video, but an experiment by Warner Bros. into the technology that was available using CD singles, and was advanced for its time.

eek

I didn't even think there were computer with CD-players anywhere on earth in october 1989!!! Obviously at the time no one could even discover this video until years later when they put the CD in their computer to rip it!

Or what???

This was so ahead of its time eek eek eek eek eek
[Edited 4/30/10 18:03pm]


Bad info at that site. Computer could NEVER detect it; AFAIK someone once developed a hacky driver for Win95 PCs that could detect the file, but it won't pop up in regular PCS, AFAIK.

Because it wasn't meant for PCs, it was meant for this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CD-i .



I remember those. Apparently games were still being published for it until 1998 eek
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Reply #8 posted 05/01/10 10:30am

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BartVanHemelen said:

databank said:

From http://www.princevault.co...s_Of_Orion
The CD single contained an unannounced .cdi file, which played a slideshow of unrelated pictures and poems with The Arms Of Orion as a soundtrack when entered into a computer. This video had no input from Prince and should not be considered a promotional video, but an experiment by Warner Bros. into the technology that was available using CD singles, and was advanced for its time.

eek

I didn't even think there were computer with CD-players anywhere on earth in october 1989!!! Obviously at the time no one could even discover this video until years later when they put the CD in their computer to rip it!

Or what???

This was so ahead of its time eek eek eek eek eek
[Edited 4/30/10 18:03pm]


Bad info at that site. Computer could NEVER detect it; AFAIK someone once developed a hacky driver for Win95 PCs that could detect the file, but it won't pop up in regular PCS, AFAIK.

Because it wasn't meant for PCs, it was meant for this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CD-i .


OK. That explains it. Thanks. I forgot about that proprietary Dreamcast etc codec. I wanted to see if my Mac would recognize it, but it's a slot loading CD drive on my Mini and won't take a 3" disc - I don't dare use the plastic ring on a slot-loader. I might try an emulator or ISO burner to see if I can at least access the .cdi.
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Reply #9 posted 05/01/10 11:11am

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BartVanHemelen said:

databank said:

From http://www.princevault.co...s_Of_Orion
The CD single contained an unannounced .cdi file, which played a slideshow of unrelated pictures and poems with The Arms Of Orion as a soundtrack when entered into a computer. This video had no input from Prince and should not be considered a promotional video, but an experiment by Warner Bros. into the technology that was available using CD singles, and was advanced for its time.

eek

I didn't even think there were computer with CD-players anywhere on earth in october 1989!!! Obviously at the time no one could even discover this video until years later when they put the CD in their computer to rip it!

Or what???

This was so ahead of its time eek eek eek eek eek
[Edited 4/30/10 18:03pm]


Bad info at that site. Computer could NEVER detect it; AFAIK someone once developed a hacky driver for Win95 PCs that could detect the file, but it won't pop up in regular PCS, AFAIK.

Because it wasn't meant for PCs, it was meant for this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CD-i .


Jeez! Meaning that WB was testing a technic that they knew Philips was developping 2 years before the player actually went out, meaning that absolutely no buyer was able to read the file when they bought the single, neither could they know it was there eek When you come to think of it it's too weird: i mean it could have been everything from a video of torture to a porn movie: no one'd ever known it was there!!! I'm actually amazed that some people eventually discovered there was a video on this CD eek
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Reply #10 posted 05/01/10 11:21am

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databank said:

BartVanHemelen said:



Bad info at that site. Computer could NEVER detect it; AFAIK someone once developed a hacky driver for Win95 PCs that could detect the file, but it won't pop up in regular PCS, AFAIK.

Because it wasn't meant for PCs, it was meant for this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CD-i .


Jeez! Meaning that WB was testing a technic that they knew Philips was developping 2 years before the player actually went out, meaning that absolutely no buyer was able to read the file when they bought the single, neither could they know it was there eek When you come to think of it it's too weird: i mean it could have been everything from a video of torture to a porn movie: no one'd ever known it was there!!! I'm actually amazed that some people eventually discovered there was a video on this CD eek
[Edited 5/1/10 11:12am]



I finally got it to work. It's a snuff film.





















Joking. Actually, I tried making an iso, but the cdi didn't show up. sad
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Reply #11 posted 05/03/10 4:28pm

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databank said:

Jeez! Meaning that WB was testing a technic that they knew Philips was developping 2 years before the player actually went out, meaning that absolutely no buyer was able to read the file when they bought the single, neither could they know it was there eek


I think I saw it mentioned in an ad.

I was thinking that perhaps Wikipedia hasn't got the right date, I recall CD-i being much earlier -- but then again 1989 is really early. However, CD Video also dates from around that time, so it isn't impossible at all: they were doing crazy things at the time.
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Reply #12 posted 05/04/10 1:21am

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BartVanHemelen said:

databank said:

Jeez! Meaning that WB was testing a technic that they knew Philips was developping 2 years before the player actually went out, meaning that absolutely no buyer was able to read the file when they bought the single, neither could they know it was there eek


I think I saw it mentioned in an ad.

I was thinking that perhaps Wikipedia hasn't got the right date, I recall CD-i being much earlier -- but then again 1989 is really early. However, CD Video also dates from around that time, so it isn't impossible at all: they were doing crazy things at the time.


This era was the golden age, really: VCR's and crazy shit like CDV and stuff lol

God i loved these years biggrin
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Reply #13 posted 05/04/10 9:54am

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it was around 1985 when sony/philips were able to use the CD as a data storage medium. So it was not unheard of. I do not know when it was first discovered but I do know it was known in the early 90s.

I remember it was talked about on AMP back in the day.
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