I Have 4 Big Questions for Debate about the Massive Influence and Power Videos have on Music Sales/Airplay :

On average.. how many people who watch MTV/VH1 around the world actually know who owns MTV/VH1 and who decides which videos are aired and rotated?

Does anyone think that there are certain artists from specific record labels that are played on VH1/MTVE more?

What kind of percentage/cut do the Video Stations get from Hollywood Movie promotional videos and multi-artist cds like (MTV Dance Hits) ?

Does anyone think that the whole single operation is too powerful ?

1) never really thought about it 2 u stated it...

2) True, so True... the Program Directors have been bought

3) hmmm... somethin' 2 think about...

4) yes... singles r all Artist have nowadays... & that's a bad thing...

Savannah said:

I think you should put this in the Non-Prince forum for more answers?!

1)Viacom owns Vh1/Vh1 classic/B.E.T./MTV2/MTV

2)Of course

3) ?

4) maybe

Savannah said:

Real Sharp Questions: I think the Average Joe&Marry don't care who owns what.TV Dictates alot of choices especially with Music.it's all Legal&Illegal "PAYOLA".there are the Major Companys that Pimp&Push there Product&will always Bully whomever they want too.everybody makes a deal too please everyone in that Business.but the Music Business is just like Bill Gates they want too have a Monopoly on everything&that is where Funny Money comes into the picture.put it like this: if the Business wants too Blow you Up they will&if they want too White-Ball you or Black Ball you depending on how you see the Business they will? Michael Jackson is the Best Example of this I Know.20 years ago Sony then CBS had MJ everything out&Well Promoted.20 years Later He got Froze out.they will use there Power on anyone, even MJ.

MTV is a culture unto itself. It doesnt dictate what I listen to. It does its thing, I do mine. Anyone is free to start their own music chanel. Part of the reason MTV is thriving is because it has so little competition. Keep an eye on MuchMusic because I hear they are stepping up.

I'll be honest with you... The last couple of times I went out and got an album was after I heard something good one MTVEurope.

So Viacom makes 24 billion a year and is the high roller that dictates what music we all hear eh? How does this make y'all feel?

Mel Karmazin from CBS is the President. Viacom's properties include CBS Television, MTV Networks, BET, Showtime Networks, Infinity, Paramount Pictures & Television, Paramount Parks, UPN, Blockbuster Video, Comedy Central. National Amusements, Inc., a closely held corporation which operates approximately 1,390 motion picture screens in the U.S

Infinity is the advertising giant that controls radio broadcasting. Together with 384 million people watching MTV alone around the world. Thats quite a monopoly.

I'm wondering if there was some fair competition... would Prince play ball and produce more of his art/vision?

This link may be of interest 2 ya, how MTV plan 2 go down the same road as radio, and kill the music industry:

http://www.cmj.com/articl...p?id=34924

So then its a HIT before its even released...

So if paramount puts out a movie called "shit"
"shit" will open in national amusement theaters
Blockbuster Shelves the shit and Promotes it on CBS
an artist comes along and writes the shitty soundtrack
the shitty soundtrack gets airplay through infinity
and MTV leads the way promoting the artists shit.

How much of a cut does the artist and the label get from this shit compared to how much Viacom makes off it.

Read this.. http://www.harcourtcolleg...music.html

The Music Industry: A Monopoly?

Viacom is Evil.
Viacom controls what we see and hear. They control so much of our entertainment. They own CBS (and its subsidiary record companies), UPN, Paramount Studios, Blockbuster Video, cable companies, comic book publishing houses, theme parks, regular publishers, MTV, Nickelodeon, VH1, Showtime, TVLand, half of Comedy Central, TNN, The Movie Channel, FLIX, a third of Sundance (independent? ha!). They're ubiquitous. They're unavoidable. They're powerful. They're evil.

And if you think it's bad now, get ready for the flood of mergers and acquisitions that are on their way.

We thought it was really really obvious why one company owning so many media outlets is bad. Apparently, though, there's at least one person out there who doesn't think that tremendous media conglomeration is an issue.

Viacom is bad because they continuously extend their vertical monopoly in every conceivable way in order to control as much of what you see as possible. Thanks in part to Viacom, a small number of people decide just about everything you see on TV, in the movie theaters, and everywhere else. Viacom cable has 200 channels, but it's all crap -- because there aren't really 200 channels, there are 5. Thanks Viacom.

dnaplaya said:

I don't think it will kill the music industry.

It will make the label get a smaller cut and therein was my question that nobody could answer.

How much of a cut does the label get?

I think if you listened to popular music in the 70-80s you got a great exposure to a wonderful foundation of styles that were built from the ground up.

Today the only way a young'in can experience everything is if you lock her in a room full of dusty of LPs and a record player.

Too late..

Emptv and the 5 Distribitors only care about the teen market..and glam star power.

Too bad that they didn't strike a deal with The Companies that make CD burners.

Emptv and Malt Liquor Radio only care about selling you overpriced clothes and shoes from questionable sources.

Diet sodas..

Awful movies..

Overpriced Sweetshop shoes..

Record execs need to stop allowing attraction to their artists affect their ability to judge true talent and integrity!

There is too much "incorporation" in the Music anyway.

There seem to be too many positions, professionals, and marketers than artists.
[This message was edited Sat Jan 18 18:23:39 PST 2003 by NGSPW7200]

NGSPW7200 said:

all this from a guy with Jay-Z and Michael Jackson in his avatar. if ever there were 2 "artists" that exemplified what you're talking about, it's them.

Savannah said:

I thought it was already dead

At first I did'nt actually read who reponded to me, but I should've known..


The Pict is my Avatar because its as hilarious and pathetic as your attempt to "getback" at me, Sherlock.

Eh? This from a man who lives on this board, but supposedly abhores everything about Prince...

Think: Does everyone's Avatar represent who they like?

I guess I could use your picture as an example, but its not worth the effort.
[This message was edited Sat Jan 18 18:16:10 PST 2003 by NGSPW7200]

NGSPW7200 said:

Me? I don't abhore everything about Prince. Just because I disagree with him about certain things or I'm disappointed in some of the things he does doesn't mean I hate everything about him.



Yes.




Nice try, but I actually do like Oceana.

NGSPW7200 said:

Moe Sizlak : "The whole modern worlds got a swishifying affect on kids today, And their MTVs and their Diet Sodies aren't gonna set'em straight, neither.."

RomeoMustDie said:

I like that Viacom logo identification thing on t.v...that voice going gleep gleep "via-COM like an alternative James Earl Jones

Homemade lasagna is good.

Looks like a power struggle going on at Viacom

http://money.cnn.com/2003.../index.htm

Supernova said:

along with some garlic bread, ohhh yeah...

Mr. Redstone, 79 years old, a wily theater-chain owner and lawyer, took control of Viacom more than 15 years ago and built it into an entertainment goliath through a succession of big deals.

Someone please put that old blood sucking
lawyer out of his million dollar misery

Savannah said:

if he's 79 years old, it won't be 2 long before he kix the bucket. don't let it go 2 your head.

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

With his money he'll be around for another 79..

Smithers: "Oh, Mr. Burns we'll thaw you out the second they discover the cure for seventeen stabwounds in the back"

Barney: "Hey, i'm with you homer, FIGHT THE POWER!"

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

Awww, yeaaahhh...