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Printable I still can't believe this even went to court. Prince is crazy. | |
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Tremolina said: You obviously don't know what you are talking about. This isn't bad news for musicians at all. Fair use doesn't apply to any form of commercial use. So making 'goofy, cheap ads' along the lines of this youtube video will therefore not be fair use. Not to mention, the sheer unlikeliness that any company thinks it would be a good idea to sell yourself with goofy cheapy ads. You need to judge this case on its own merits. The woman, obviously, didn't have any commercial intent. She just wanted to show her baby dancing. You know what's bad news for musicians? That they take their "protection" so far that they even have to have these kind of cases on their hands. Take that into account and then think again why this would be bad news for musicians. 
And to Universal, Prince (and to a lesser extent, LauraRichardson), all I have to say is 
You got your asses kicked by a baby!  [Edited 3/11/10 1:09am] | |
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Gonzalo1979 said: that cartoon is fucking racist Prince is not that skin color, his lower lip is much thinner, his nose is not so negroid. Also Prince has a beautiful profile (look at the cover of The Hits/The B Sides 3-cd set) he has a good chin, that cartoon needs a chin implant. That cartoon looks like a 100% black dude not a multiracial man like Prince, i think they matched Michael Jackson's 1982 skin color.
[Edited 3/1/10 19:47pm] Please stop the rain, Jesus.  | |
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PositivityNYC said: Gonzalo1979 said:that cartoon is fucking racist Prince is not that skin color, his lower lip is much thinner, his nose is not so negroid. Also Prince has a beautiful profile (look at the cover of The Hits/The B Sides 3-cd set) he has a good chin, that cartoon needs a chin implant. That cartoon looks like a 100% black dude not a multiracial man like Prince, i think they matched Michael Jackson's 1982 skin color.
[b][Edited 3/1/10 19:47pm][/b] a) That animated gif - like Prince - hardly has any color, so, I don't see a problem here 
Color (or lack thereof) and "race" are not the same thing. Not that any of that should matter in the 21st freakin' century... but, until all the azzholes die off, I guess we're still stuck with that mentality. - As for Prince's skin color... the dude does tan. Ever see the cover of 1979's "Prince" ? Held an original in your hand; not viewing a lightened reissue or image of it on the 'net? My mom has the 8-Track tape of that album (she won't give it to me  ), and he's darker on that cover than in the animated piece -!
Seen the Te Amo Corazon video/pix? Dude looked like he got a little color while shooting that one in Morocco (which is in Africa). b) FYI: just b/c a person has a darker complexion, it doesn't mean that they're not mixed; there's no set color chart or fractions equation or whatever in the gene pool. And, MJ's heritage isn't 100% black; Choctaw on his father's side, and Cherokee on his mother's (and, from LaToya's lack of color, I wouldn't be surprised if somebody white was in their family tree, too) - but low blow on the color thing with MJ anyway.. I don't suppose you know anybody suffering with the autoimmune disease of Vitiligo? (it is true he had Vitiligo-- and on top of that, he also had Lupus; both are listed in the autopsy report) c) That animated gif is from a cartoon caricature. Faces/bodies are ALWAYS exaggerated in caricatures. Noun: exaggeration by means of often ludicrous distortion of parts or characteristics. http://lobaton.wordpress....20/sexy-mf Is he the wrong color here, too? Careful how you answer now; don't wanna offend any Smurfs or Na'vi. 
d) "his lower lip is much thinner, his nose is not so negroid." You know what you're implying here, right? The more negroid the features, the less [beautiful]... ? Wait... Negroid? Really? What decade/century is this again? 
- And when you speak about Asian folks, do you use 'Mongoloid' ? e) What in the world is a "good chin" ... is that like having "good hair" -? f) "that cartoon is fucking racist" You obviously don't know what 'racist' is.... Or do you? g) Thank you for reminding me why I hardly come here.  [/quote]
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Ottensen said: Gonzalo1979 said: that cartoon is fucking racist Prince is not that skin color, his lower lip is much thinner, his nose is not so negroid. Also Prince has a beautiful profile (look at the cover of The Hits/The B Sides 3-cd set) he has a good chin, that cartoon needs a chin implant. That cartoon looks like a 100% black dude not a multiracial man like Prince, i think they matched Michael Jackson's 1982 skin color.
[Edited 3/1/10 19:47pm] Please stop the rain, Jesus.  Love the Denise reference.If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot. | |
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lilgish said: I still can't believe this even went to court. Prince is crazy.
To be fair: Prince didn't pull the video. Universal did, in his name. When the woman objected and fought the take down, Universal was willing to 'settle' but the lady wouldn't have that anymore at that point. She wanted them to bleed, so she sought a declaration by a court that her video was fair use. The court agreed and hinted Universal may have abused Prince's copyright. That paved the way for the case she is conducting now, to get her attorney fees paid for. So Prince may be crazy, but in this case it is this woman who went crazy. | |
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In drawings or caricatures things are usually exaggerated.
"The first time I saw the cover of Dirty Mind in the early 80s I thought, 'Is this some drag queen ripping on Freddie Prinze?'" - Some guy on The Gear Page | |
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JustErin said: Gonzalo1979 said: that cartoon is fucking racist Prince is not that skin color, his lower lip is much thinner, his nose is not so negroid. Also Prince has a beautiful profile (look at the cover of The Hits/The B Sides 3-cd set) he has a good chin, that cartoon needs a chin implant. That cartoon looks like a 100% black dude not a multiracial man like Prince, i think they matched Michael Jackson's 1982 skin color.
[Edited 3/1/10 19:47pm] And yet you instantly knew it was Prince. Hag. Muse. Web Goddess. Taurean. Tree Hugger. Poet. Professional Nerd. Geek.
"Resistance is futile." "All shall love me and despair!" | |
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Gonzalo1979 said: that cartoon is fucking racist Prince is not that skin color, his lower lip is much thinner, his nose is not so negroid. Also Prince has a beautiful profile (look at the cover of The Hits/The B Sides 3-cd set) he has a good chin, that cartoon needs a chin implant. That cartoon looks like a 100% black dude not a multiracial man like Prince, i think they matched Michael Jackson's 1982 skin color.
[Edited 3/1/10 19:47pm] in the first place..it's a cartoon.. in the 2nd place.. it's a caricature cartoon.. and positivitynyc said it all.. [Edited 3/11/10 16:32pm]  'why y'all trying to say goodbye? I didn't go anywhere, I'm right here, im all around you,always..'
in a line from my dream, I heard a voice and saw a silhouette in a chair.. | |
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 Good for her!!"I would say that Prince's top thirty percent is great. Of that thirty percent, I'll bet the public has heard twenty percent of it." - Susan Rogers, "Hunting for Prince's Vault", BBC, 2015 | |
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It's all a big joke. Kinda like his music. | |
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 [Edited 3/17/10 16:26pm] We are all so full of  here | |
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soulfunky said: TheVoid said: Please. He's black. babynoz said: FYI, Prince is African American As much as I agree with most of you'all that Gonzalo79's comments were racist, that doesn't mean ignorance is a one way street. Saying that Prince is African American is like feeding me spaghetti w/ no sauce and calling it a meal. Prince's ethnicity can not solely be claimed by Blacks or Whites or Italians or Indians. He's an earthling...like me. Muthaship, we're preparing to board! [Parliament song starts NOW!] Peace out Y'all!  Both of Prince's parents are considered African American, not one of them, BOTH. So in this country by law that would make their biological child African American also.
Mattie Nelson said she was "creole" hailing from Louisiana but "creole" is just a lighter version of African American and in her time she would still be called the "n" word by white extremists. Price's father John Nelson was a light skinned African American man. Prince is the product of two lighter skinned African Americans, and just because a black man is light skinned (or red-boned) does NOT mean that he is bi-racial) But, I am sure you already knew this. Many African Americans here have been so mixed through out the generations by all races here that they come in all shades now, but still identify as 100% Black. OK I beat this shit up enough... good on that mom for winning that law suit. | |
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Brofie said: Gonzalo1979 said: that cartoon is fucking racist Prince is not that skin color, his lower lip is much thinner, his nose is not so negroid. Also Prince has a beautiful profile (look at the cover of The Hits/The B Sides 3-cd set) he has a good chin, that cartoon needs a chin implant. That cartoon looks like a 100% black dude not a multiracial man like Prince, i think they matched Michael Jackson's 1982 skin color.
[Edited 3/1/10 19:47pm] Funny - this post is more racist than the cartoon...  Right..LOL Check out my tribute to Prince
http://www.soundclick.com...47524&q=hi | |
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this is just the best best bestest news  2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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Brofie said: Gonzalo1979 said: that cartoon is fucking racist Prince is not that skin color, his lower lip is much thinner, his nose is not so negroid. Also Prince has a beautiful profile (look at the cover of The Hits/The B Sides 3-cd set) he has a good chin, that cartoon needs a chin implant. That cartoon looks like a 100% black dude not a multiracial man like Prince, i think they matched Michael Jackson's 1982 skin color.
[Edited 3/1/10 19:47pm] Funny - this post is more racist than the cartoon... pretty much ...Whatever u heard about me is true, I change the rules and do what I wanna do; I'm in love with God, He's the only way; cause u and I know we gotta die someday; you think I'm crazy, ur probally right; but I'm gonna have fun every motherf***in' night!" | |
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PositivityNYC said: Gonzalo1979 said: that cartoon is fucking racist Prince is not that skin color, his lower lip is much thinner, his nose is not so negroid. Also Prince has a beautiful profile (look at the cover of The Hits/The B Sides 3-cd set) he has a good chin, that cartoon needs a chin implant. That cartoon looks like a 100% black dude not a multiracial man like Prince, i think they matched Michael Jackson's 1982 skin color.
[Edited 3/1/10 19:47pm] a) That animated gif - like Prince - hardly has any color, so, I don't see a problem here
Color (or lack thereof) and "race" are not the same thing. Not that any of that should matter in the 21st freakin' century... but, until all the azzholes die off, I guess we're still stuck with that mentality. - As for Prince's skin color... the dude does tan. Ever see the cover of 1979's "Prince" ? Held an original in your hand; not viewing a lightened reissue or image of it on the 'net? My mom has the 8-Track tape of that album (she won't give it to me ), and he's darker on that cover than in the animated piece -!
Seen the Te Amo Corazon video/pix? Dude looked like he got a little color while shooting that one in Morocco (which is in Africa). b) FYI: just b/c a person has a darker complexion, it doesn't mean that they're not mixed; there's no set color chart or fractions equation or whatever in the gene pool. And, MJ's heritage isn't 100% black; Choctaw on his father's side, and Cherokee on his mother's (and, from LaToya's lack of color, I wouldn't be surprised if somebody white was in their family tree, too) - but low blow on the color thing with MJ anyway.. I don't suppose you know anybody suffering with the autoimmune disease of Vitiligo? (it is true he had Vitiligo-- and on top of that, he also had Lupus; both are listed in the autopsy report) c) That animated gif is from a cartoon caricature. Faces/bodies are ALWAYS exaggerated in caricatures. Noun: exaggeration by means of often ludicrous distortion of parts or characteristics. http://lobaton.wordpress....20/sexy-mf Is he the wrong color here, too? Careful how you answer now; don't wanna offend any Smurfs or Na'vi.
d) "his lower lip is much thinner, his nose is not so negroid." You know what you're implying here, right? The more negroid the features, the less [beautiful]... ? Wait... Negroid? Really? What decade/century is this again?
- And when you speak about Asian folks, do you use 'Mongoloid' ? e) What in the world is a "good chin" ... is that like having "good hair" -? f) "that cartoon is fucking racist" You obviously don't know what 'racist' is.... Or do you? g) Thank you for reminding me why I hardly come here. Whatever u heard about me is true, I change the rules and do what I wanna do; I'm in love with God, He's the only way; cause u and I know we gotta die someday; you think I'm crazy, ur probally right; but I'm gonna have fun every motherf***in' night!" | |
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