Well, I'm LOVING this song! I've playing it on a loop while working and I just can't seem to get enough of it.

TikiColadas said:

It gets better & better every time I hear it

sounds like lotusflower leftovers..

Sdldawn said:

'Leftov3rs' album to come?

Fauxie said:

let's hope he threw them in the garbage.

Wow the geetar rocks hard!

Glasscutter

I totally agree, and what a great post. A lot of his new songs, seems like he is trying to convince the listener that he is saved/religious, instead of just being saved or whatever. I know he has been religious his entire career but lately it just coming across as fake. Like mentioned below, I don't feel his struggles anymore. Just stamping each song with "God" doesn't make it deep or make me feel connected. When I listen to "Open Book", I can feel it...(even though that song is not religious but)..I still feel a lot of the newer stuff, just seems different, and maybe that's me getting older, along with him.

NuPwrSoul said:

MilkSode said:

Hee-hee, like most religious zealots who talk loud and say nothing; who do you really think he's trying to convince, us or himself?

Since he became a JW I think his music has spiraled downwards quite rapidly. His production techniques have also gotten lazy imo. Sure, it sounds more pollished (not a sound I like), but technology has leapt forward allowing such a polished sound to be accomplished with half the effort. His lyrics sound more forced than ever these days too.

Overall, Prince's music has deteriorated. His originality is gone and, combined with the self imposed shackles of his faith, his lyrical content is less than mediocre.

He needs a producer more than ever now. I think he also needs to restrict his output. WB were right in the sense that too much output will saturate the market. Not only that, it also seems to saturate his sound. He used to hold songs back or release them as B sides because WB made sure that he didnt just release everything. Then WB went bye-bye and we started getting triple albums, online downloads, poor choice of singles and everything else he could thow at us. In fact, he gave us so much music that when it came time to release a single, there was nothing left back for a B side.

I think Prince should take a long break from releasing anything. I think he needs to mess around a bit and redefine his sound, get some brand new musicians that can inspire him and allow them to contribute to the creation process. A producer would be good too. Not a mainstream producer, perhaps someone a little left field with a penchant for analogue as opposed to digital over dubbing left, right and centre. Then maybe he can make one last killer of an album, blow everyone away with it and win back some of his lost fans.

This new song really is the bottom of the barrel, luckily I havent heard the previous one.

1 thing is 4 sho'
and that is
regardless of like or dislike
the tune has generated
a lot of
interest

Rebeljuice said:

MendesCity said:

Thanks you got a straw?

I just agree with some of the sentiments that's all (apart from the religious dogma)

The song is very poor by Prince's standards and on the back of the Purple & Gold disaster I think a lot of people in here are using it as an excuse to air a lot of unnecessary issues. I question Prince's approach to releasing songs on their own as it's inevitable they will be overly criticised. Its one song. One song does not define anything.

I realise that this is the internet and we all have a right to say whatever we please but in the real world I wouldn't go to the local church and start telling everybody there that their ideas are all ridiculous or head into my nearest McDonalds and start moaning at all the other diners that they don't sell the McRib anymore and therefore the whole place is finished. I would expect some sort of backlash, fully expect to be shouted down and told to do one.

At the moment there are a lot of people in here ruining the enjoyment of my Big Mac.

My funkster is now the pope of christian pop... Just like the pope, however, he is going to have to address an ever shrinking crowd....

I have been on this site for ages and have always tried to provide constructive and balanced views on the man and his music (I supported TRC for instance, despite the chritian pop lyrics, because as Wall put it the music was not bland and flat christian pop).

But this is more than I can bear. Very interesting points have been made about this song (not least on the lyrics) so I won't add to that. The only thing I can say is that this shows that whether you are a genius or nor, in any field you need to interact with others to get something out of your potential (not to mention to produce a groundbreaking album, something he has not done in ages and which I have stopped expecting from him -I have turned to others for that). These days, he works essentially alone and does not receive any honnest feedback from any qualified musician or producer. This shows up in an output that is increasingly dated and/or out of this world (not in the right sense of the word unfortunately). I do not know whether he needs a producer, but he needs at least qualified people to interact with him in an honnest way so that he finds a new direction to his music, or even just a direction.

This is what Miles did repeatedly in the 1960s, 1970s and then again in the 1980s, enabling him to remain highly creative and to even break some new ground in some cases (Bitches Brew). Unfortunately Prince's personality does not allow this, and this is what is leading to this self-caricature. This is really sad, to the point that for the first time ever I am wondering whether he should retire from music altogether. The best we can hope for is probably that he releases those killer left-overs he has in the vault, and those amazing aftershow recordings he has never dared to put massively online. His new music is anecdotal, and I for one have now moved to other artists, although these days are not that great for (especially black) music

i miss the funk prince

talkin' about grooves like:

la la la he he hee

we need 2 get loose up in here,

but we cannot clap on the 2 and 'fo

with the effect of this cause

"i wanna c some asses wigglin'" if u know what i mean

Wow 3 and final play of the track giving it time to air out, can't seem to move away from the fact that the first 2 minutes of the song i don't like but the last 3 minutes Prince totally rocks and funks the song up to level with is F.U.N.K. like .....

He just has too many styles going on in the start of the record but hey this is Prince and he can do whatever he wants because he's that good...

Out of 10 i'd give it a 6 because the 3 minutes to the end of the song is just soooo gooood .....I think most people on here are having ago at his lyrics which is unfair as it's good stuff of course the God Factor is in all Prince's records so i'm not put off the record by this.

To me it the music direction in the first 2 minutes of the song that's weak.

Oh well on to the next track...

Just listened to it again, I freaking love it. It definitely gets better towards the end but I like the "Hey" shouts in the beginning.

I don't c what all the fuss is about w/ the lyrics, they're not too far off his "older" style of lyrics. He's sang way more preachy than this b4. He's always written about faith & God, I don't really c how this is any different.

Se7en said:

Not so sure about that. I would say Prince's internal editor is highly suspect at best.

Why are we shocked, thats its not good??? P is a mulit millionair that hides away in his mansion untill he wants us to buy a record. He can not relate to us, and we can not relate to him.

Max said:

I ♥ the guitar playing in this song, too. As a player I find it orgasmically wonderful.

sacrifice said:

There are so many mistakes in your post, it's hard to know where to begin.
I'll just assume that you don't know what the Big Bang was.

Some of you guys are so f&%$in lame...wouldn't know a brilliant song if it bit you on the ass! You wonder why I don't come here very often?...Cuz of little bitches who love to complain about everything "cuz daddy didn't love me" and "I have my head up my ass". Are you sure you 'tards are Prince fans? MJ's gone, hip hop soUld out, so you latched on to P's teet instead?
My review: Great song y'all! Just lame Orgers.

(oh, here come the whiners right on cue)

Thank you Prince -and the NPG- for 32 plus years of amazing music. Cause and Effect is further proof you are the true musical phenomenon of our time.

While I do agree with what Nu and others are saying about the lyrical content and lack of "connection" I'm going to put this on my Ipod tonight and give it a proper listen over the next couple days. The guitar and groove sounds good enough to hold my interest at least.

XNY said:

The problem with blind "hardcore" (that is how you define yourself) fans like you is that they wouldn't know a pathetic Prince song if it bit you on the ass

thaCONcept said:

How funny. I think it WOULD be amazing to hear him write about these things. My issue with his music isn't about his religion (for a while I did think it was) or age or whatever. I just want him to be experimental. I want to hear strange noises coming out of his guitar and synths. I want him to let loose. He doesn't have to compromise his beliefs.
[Edited 3/2/10 9:05am]

NDRU said:

He shot his wad and then never got laid again.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Sometimes I wonder if he doesn't realize that many of his true fans actually liked that album. I saw it as the return of Prince, in fact, the return to a path that he'd abandoned since about 1989.

The rest of the world completely ignored it.

It's obvious prince does care about being accepted, even though he's also willing to be ridiculous. I am beginning to think that being accepted is more important to him. That's why he watered down TRC for Lotus, why he can't stop playing his hits even though he promised to stop in 1995, why his return to the spotlight coincided with a simple & mediocre album and why every one that followed was also simple & mediocre (with some good moments, of course).

I wonder if he knew how some of us genuinely liked it if he'd get more daring again, or if he doesn't care about a small group of fans who like more daring music.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Plenty of religious people go to court over a variety of issues. I never confused Prince the businessman with Prince the musician. He has a product to sell and he's doing what he feels best to protect his brand name from infringing. His filing a lawsuit has absolutely nothing to do with the music he writes or the inspiration behind it.

HonestMan13 said:

plus, who thinks Prince is at peace?

What I find baffling is why a musician of Prince's immense talent would find this song interesting or creatively satisfying. Certainly, I think it is cool to occasionally just knock out the occasional fun tune and chuck it out there for the hell of it - there's no harm in that at all. On the other hand, this kinda of suffocating self-regard and braggadocio can be hard to stomach.

When he's feeling introspective, there's no doubt Prince is very capable of writing some thoughtful, sincere lyrics at times. This kind of bizarre self-conscious boastfulness is best left to the kids though. Prince can do whatever he wants, but personally I don't enjoy this song at all.