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PrintableTwiliteKid said: Dayclear said: Wait until his appearance at the Grammys, his album will peak again.
 Prince will not be at the Grammys. how are you so sure? "not a fan"  yeah...ok | |
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thedance said: LF at #183 ?... haha...
Prince sure ain't moving record sales  Well, he's obviously "moving" some - peaked at Number 2 (on billboard - no 1 on others) and is still featuring on the chart 4 months after its release! That's alright, by any measure and especially when its your thirtyhowevermany release! But, what does it matter? You like the music and listen to it - end of! ...we have only scratched the surface of what the mind can do...
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Shorty said: TwiliteKid said: Prince will not be at the Grammys. how are you so sure? Because I live in the real world? The goal of the producers will be get the highest ratings they can muster for the award show. A Prince performance will not help them in that quest. | |
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TwiliteKid said: Shorty said: how are you so sure? Because I live in the real world? The goal of the producers will be get the highest ratings they can muster for the award show. A Prince performance will not help them in that quest. You're a muppet, I see
Its a good job you phrased "Because I live in the real word" as a question, because the answer is "No". ...we have only scratched the surface of what the mind can do...
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a Prince appearance at the Grammys would DEFO boost ratings. |
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moderatorPurpleLove7 said: madison said: at the targets around where i live couldnt give them away !!
mj cds were gone ... but nobody digs prince anymore ... that's cool, the more P CDs for me.  Well..don't say nobody, or else we all wouldn't be here. There are very few artists around 20 years ago that today could even sell 1 cd. As Prince would say, it's a sign of the times. | |
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Militant said: a Prince appearance at the Grammys would DEFO boost ratings.
No, a Lady Gaga appearance would boost ratings. A Black Eyed Peas appearance would boost ratings. A Taylor Swift appearance would boost ratings. A Prince appearance would not. | |
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TwiliteKid said: Militant said: a Prince appearance at the Grammys would DEFO boost ratings.
No, a Lady Gaga appearance would boost ratings. A Black Eyed Peas appearance would boost ratings. A Taylor Swift appearance would boost ratings. A Prince appearance would not. You underestimate the fanbase of a true icon and LEGEND. All those artists pretty much squarely appeal to the 13-30 demographic. P appeals to many demographics. I have been in the music industry my entire life....if you think a Prince appearance would not boost ratings...you are wrong. I remember when he appeared here in the UK at the Brit Awards in 07..... His performance and appearance was the most talked about thing both before and after the event. A ton of people I know only tuned in because they heard he was going to be on. So quit talking shit. |
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Militant said: TwiliteKid said: No, a Lady Gaga appearance would boost ratings. A Black Eyed Peas appearance would boost ratings. A Taylor Swift appearance would boost ratings. A Prince appearance would not. You underestimate the fanbase of a true icon and LEGEND. All those artists pretty much squarely appeal to the 13-30 demographic. P appeals to many demographics. I have been in the music industry my entire life....if you think a Prince appearance would not boost ratings...you are wrong. I remember when he appeared here in the UK at the Brit Awards in 07..... His performance and appearance was the most talked about thing both before and after the event. A ton of people I know only tuned in because they heard he was going to be on. So quit talking shit. No's one's talking shit, dude. You may be an artist (and that's great, no disrespect intended), but that doesn't mean you have a better grasp of the industry than I do, nor does your anecdotal evidence do anything to strengthen your argument. The bottom line is this: Prince will not be asked to perform, mark my words. [Edited 12/4/09 15:09pm] | |
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TwiliteKid said: No's one's talking shit, dude. You may be an artist (and that's great, no disrespect intended), but that doesn't mean you have a better grasp of the industry than I do, nor does your anecdotal evidence do anything to strengthen your argument. The bottom line is this: Prince will not be asked to perform, mark my words. Actually Prince has been asked many times to perform at the Grammys over the last few years, and that information comes straight from a multi-platinum producer who sits on the Grammy committee. So I'm afraid you're gonna have to eat your words on that one. |
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TwiliteKid said: Militant said: You underestimate the fanbase of a true icon and LEGEND. All those artists pretty much squarely appeal to the 13-30 demographic. P appeals to many demographics. I have been in the music industry my entire life....if you think a Prince appearance would not boost ratings...you are wrong. I remember when he appeared here in the UK at the Brit Awards in 07..... His performance and appearance was the most talked about thing both before and after the event. A ton of people I know only tuned in because they heard he was going to be on. So quit talking shit. No's one's talking shit, dude. You may be an artist (and that's great, no disrespect intended), but that doesn't mean you have a better grasp of the industry than I do, nor does your anecdotal evidence do anything to strengthen your argument. The bottom line is this: Prince will not be asked to perform, mark my words. [Edited 12/4/09 15:09pm] Unless you are a member of staff for anything connected with the Grammys, or you have a proper source, then you are talking shit! Simple - what you throw out is conjecture, with bias. Its doesn't make it fact and you have nothing to substantiate your argument. Hence, you are talking shit
Prince has played plenty of awards ceremonies, including recently, has played the Superbowl etc etc - were the producers of those shows aiming for something different? ...we have only scratched the surface of what the mind can do...
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TwiliteKid said: Shorty said: how are you so sure? Because I live in the real world? The goal of the producers will be get the highest ratings they can muster for the award show. A Prince performance will not help them in that quest. Lol.....Ohh lawrd.  | |
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I would have to humbly interject that any artist's performance on any widely broadcast award show would conjure interest in their music to at least someone. Especially if it were a stellar performance.
To the topic at hand: "...the charts don't mean a damn when u'r free..." Hell, if Sonny T and Michael B were already there, why wouldn't Prince jump on stage for a quicky at the Grammy's?  Prost!"Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends" |
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Honestly, it's like you people have never watched the Grammys, or any award show for that matter.
The show is only three hours long. In that time, they'll hand out a handful of awards (last year only 10 of the 109 categories were presented on air), and the rest of the show will be filled with performances by the biggest stars with the most number of nominations. That means you'll see Beyonce, Taylor Swift, Maxwell, Black Eyed Peas, Lady Gaga, Kings Of Leon, etc. There will almost certainly be a lengthy Michael Jackson tribute. The best solo rock performance award will not be presented on air, and Prince will not perform. You can call this talking shit, or conjecture all you like, but if any of you actually paid attention to anything happening in the industry, you'd know I'm right. Just wait and see. [Edited 12/4/09 16:56pm] | |
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TwiliteKid said: Honestly, it's like you people have never watched the Grammys, or any award show for that matter.
The show is only three hours long. In that time, they'll hand out a handful of awards (last year only 10 of the 109 categories were presented on air), and the rest of the show will be filled with performances by the biggest stars with the most number of nominations. That means you'll see Beyonce, Taylor Swift, Maxwell, Black Eyed Peas, Lady Gaga, Kings Of Leon, etc. There will almost certainly be a lengthy Michael Jackson tribute. The best solo rock performance award will not be presented on air, and Prince will not perform. You can call this talking shit, or conjecture all you like, but if any of you actually paid attention to anything happening in the industry, you'd know I'm right. Just wait and see. [Edited 12/4/09 16:56pm] You know what? You're right. Fuck the industry!
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TwiliteKid said: Militant said: a Prince appearance at the Grammys would DEFO boost ratings.
No, a Lady Gaga appearance would boost ratings. A Black Eyed Peas appearance would boost ratings. A Taylor Swift appearance would boost ratings. A Prince appearance would not. ----- Well you go ahead and watch the sorry lot you just mentioned because you just put yourself out there with your incredible bad taste in music.  | |
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renfield said: I guess that discount at Target helped, as Lotusflow3r re-enters the Billboard 200 this week at #183 (for a 14th cumulative week on the chart):
http://www.billboard.com/...r=position It also re-enters the R&B album chart at #22 (for a total of 27 weeks charted): http://www.billboard.com/...r=position Not bad! 14 weeks in the top 200! | |
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Militant said: TwiliteKid said: No's one's talking shit, dude. You may be an artist (and that's great, no disrespect intended), but that doesn't mean you have a better grasp of the industry than I do, nor does your anecdotal evidence do anything to strengthen your argument. The bottom line is this: Prince will not be asked to perform, mark my words. Actually Prince has been asked many times to perform at the Grammys over the last few years, and that information comes straight from a multi-platinum producer who sits on the Grammy committee. So I'm afraid you're gonna have to eat your words on that one. Prince made that statement back n 2004, when he said they have always contacted him 2 perform | |
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laurarichardson said: TwiliteKid said: No, a Lady Gaga appearance would boost ratings. A Black Eyed Peas appearance would boost ratings. A Taylor Swift appearance would boost ratings. A Prince appearance would not. ----- Well you go ahead and watch the sorry lot you just mentioned because you just put yourself out there with your incredible bad taste in music. I did no such thing. Pointing out that those acts are more commerically viable than Prince in 2009 doesn't mean I enjoy them. | |
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pennylover said: Militant said: Actually Prince has been asked many times to perform at the Grammys over the last few years, and that information comes straight from a multi-platinum producer who sits on the Grammy committee. So I'm afraid you're gonna have to eat your words on that one. Prince made that statement back n 2004, when he said they have always contacted him 2 perform Prince also said that he'd never heard "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" before being asked to perform it at the RRHoF induction ceremony. Taking him at his word may not be the wisest course of action. | |
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renfield said: I guess that discount at Target helped, as Lotusflow3r re-enters the Billboard 200 this week at #183 (for a 14th cumulative week on the chart):
http://www.billboard.com/...r=position It also re-enters the R&B album chart at #22 (for a total of 27 weeks charted): http://www.billboard.com/...r=position Not bad! I like how when you click on any of the sample of Lotusflow3r on Billboards site, songs by other artists play (Dj Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince anyone?) | |
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fantasticjoy said: madison said: at the targets around where i live couldnt give them away !!
mj cds were gone ... but nobody digs prince anymore [Edited 12/3/09 9:23am] Well MJ had to pass away for his cd's to move. If Prince had to die for his cd's to disappear I'd rather his cd's collect dust on the shelves. |
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TwiliteKid said: Because I live in the real world? The goal of the producers will be get the highest ratings they can muster for the award show. A Prince performance will not help them in that quest. Little Richard and John Fogerty performed on last years award show. I wouldn't exactly call those artists "go to" artists for ratings. They performed though. You never know what Prince will do. I wouldn't bet on him. [Edited 12/7/09 5:14am] | |
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TwiliteKid said: Shorty said: how are you so sure? Because I live in the real world? The goal of the producers will be get the highest ratings they can muster for the award show. A Prince performance will not help them in that quest.  Oh..ok...just a hunch you have then. I thought maybe you had some inside info is all...but you don't. carry on."not a fan" yeah...ok | |
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Jeez there's some uncalled for negativity on here. So, just to add some balance I wnat to say well done, that really is a great achievement for minimal promo. As for P not being a draw for TV rating's?, come on, his live rep is as solid with the masses as it has always been. | |
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oh and I swear if he shifted a Million units today people on here would still complain or find a 'ah yes but it only happened because....' type response!. Sorry , had to get that off my chest!.  | |
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TwiliteKid said: Militant said: a Prince appearance at the Grammys would DEFO boost ratings.
No, a Lady Gaga appearance would boost ratings. A Black Eyed Peas appearance would boost ratings. A Taylor Swift appearance would boost ratings. A Prince appearance would not. Any show Prince appears on will definitely boost ratings, no matter what show it is, he is THAT DUDE | |
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My 'Lotusflow3r' vinyl turned up today,so i guess that means there are 1999 more out there somewhere.....(A-hem)  | |
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Militant said: TwiliteKid said: No, a Lady Gaga appearance would boost ratings. A Black Eyed Peas appearance would boost ratings. A Taylor Swift appearance would boost ratings. A Prince appearance would not. You underestimate the fanbase of a true icon and LEGEND. All those artists pretty much squarely appeal to the 13-30 demographic. P appeals to many demographics. I have been in the music industry my entire life....if you think a Prince appearance would not boost ratings...you are wrong. I remember when he appeared here in the UK at the Brit Awards in 07..... His performance and appearance was the most talked about thing both before and after the event. A ton of people I know only tuned in because they heard he was going to be on. So quit talking shit. there are people over 30 who enjoy ladygaga and black eye peas, the world is not that simple. the question is although prince would attract more viewers than No Prince, would he attract more viewers than lady gaga or BEP? these artists are very popular right now, and it's their time, so they would probably get the nod. Prince would get a call up if either of these declined to perform. Remember in 1984 and 1985, Prince was the worlds hottest artist, lots of people disliked Prince and thought he was a flash in the pan, like the BEP are now, but it was imperative to get him on the grammys because he was the artist of the time. In a way I would prefer award shows to reflect the important artists of the year in terms of sales, critical success and general mania. it was Beyonce a couple of years ago, now its Gaga - yes I hate Lady Gaga, but it's her time, love her or hate her you cannot despute this. [Edited 12/8/09 2:57am] | |
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vinx98 said: Militant said: You underestimate the fanbase of a true icon and LEGEND. All those artists pretty much squarely appeal to the 13-30 demographic. P appeals to many demographics. I have been in the music industry my entire life....if you think a Prince appearance would not boost ratings...you are wrong. I remember when he appeared here in the UK at the Brit Awards in 07..... His performance and appearance was the most talked about thing both before and after the event. A ton of people I know only tuned in because they heard he was going to be on. So quit talking shit. there are people over 30 who enjoy ladygaga and black eye peas, the world is not that simple. the question is although prince would attract more viewers than No Prince, would he attract more viewers than lady gaga or BEP? these artists are very popular right now, and it's their time, so they would probably get the nod. Prince would get a call up if either of these declined to perform. Remember in 1984 and 1985, Prince was the worlds hottest artist, lots of people disliked Prince and thought he was a flash in the pan, like the BEP are now, but it was imperative to get him on the grammys because he was the artist of the time. In a way I would prefer award shows to reflect the important artists of the year in terms of sales, critical success and general mania. it was Beyonce a couple of years ago, now its Gaga - yes I hate Lady Gaga, but it's her time, love her or hate her you cannot despute this. [Edited 12/8/09 2:57am] ----- Lady Gaga and other suck ass artist can be on the Grammies and so can Prince. People are not going to run from their T.V.s screaming if P were to perform or give out an award. As far as Lady Gaga's time is concerned as long as her record company continues to shell out payola it will be her time. | |
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