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Thread started 12/07/09 9:41am

Marrk

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Sympathy 4 The Devil - Talk someone into listening to a Prince song they would otherwise never listen to again

Right, that's the idea, save a song. Think of a Prince song you really, really dislike and see if it can be redeemed by the power of the typed word alone.

Convince someone to listen to listen to their audio nightmare again. feel free to write a bit about the song and why it bothers you so much.

I'll start with the obvious, 'Jughead'.

This song apart from the obvious horrible rapping, marks a watershed moment in Prince history, he was following rather than leading, really for the very first time. The whole thing is awful, i have no idea if it's supposed to be serious or comedic (it's neither) when he performed it on the D&P tour his section was a cheesey lip-synched VT of him in his dressing room, i thinked this is the song he simulated bum-sex with the Game Boyz, the music is a shambolic retread of 'Housequake' with all the funk drained out, Tony M (had to mention him) the crap ending, the 'comedy' slap. Urrrgh.

No way i'll listen to it again, unless there is a piece of genius within i've missed! if so, TELL ME!
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Reply #1 posted 12/07/09 10:26am

ernestsewell

Marrk said:

I'll start with the obvious, 'Jughead'.

This song apart from the obvious horrible rapping, marks a watershed moment in Prince history, he was following rather than leading, really for the very first time. The whole thing is awful, i have no idea if it's supposed to be serious or comedic (it's neither) when he performed it on the D&P tour his section was a cheesey lip-synched VT of him in his dressing room, i thinked this is the song he simulated bum-sex with the Game Boyz, the music is a shambolic retread of 'Housequake' with all the funk drained out, Tony M (had to mention him) the crap ending, the 'comedy' slap. Urrrgh.

That's a very good statement, and one a lot of us have echoed in the past more than once. It was the early 90's that Prince started to follow trends, instead of create them. Long gone were the days of drum machines fed through guitar pedals. Long gone were the days of his force as a one man band. Long gone were the days of benchmark songs like "DMSR", "Computer Blue", "When Does Cry", "Kiss", "Forever In My Life", "Adore", etc etc etc etc. Bring on the days of rapping, following the clanky, echoey, dated sounding production of the early-mid 90's.

He got back to being THAT Prince in the mid 90's, when he was at his second peak of being prolific, trend setting, unique, awesome, etc. I've said it before and I'll say it again: It's when Prince is in battle with someone or something (WB) that he has created his best music. In the mid 80's when he was shuffling girlfriends, and having conflicts w/ them that he created gems like "The Beautiful Ones", "Strange Relationship", "When Doves Cry". It was the mid 90's that he created masterpieces like The Gold Experience, Exodus, and Come. When he got free from the WB, and got wild and loose again, his music suffered greatly. No way the 00's can fairly be compared to the 80's or the 90's. The trend was broken by the time New Power Soul came out.
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Reply #2 posted 12/07/09 10:33am

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ernestsewell said:

Marrk said:

I'll start with the obvious, 'Jughead'.

This song apart from the obvious horrible rapping, marks a watershed moment in Prince history, he was following rather than leading, really for the very first time. The whole thing is awful, i have no idea if it's supposed to be serious or comedic (it's neither) when he performed it on the D&P tour his section was a cheesey lip-synched VT of him in his dressing room, i thinked this is the song he simulated bum-sex with the Game Boyz, the music is a shambolic retread of 'Housequake' with all the funk drained out, Tony M (had to mention him) the crap ending, the 'comedy' slap. Urrrgh.

That's a very good statement, and one a lot of us have echoed in the past more than once. It was the early 90's that Prince started to follow trends, instead of create them. Long gone were the days of drum machines fed through guitar pedals. Long gone were the days of his force as a one man band. Long gone were the days of benchmark songs like "DMSR", "Computer Blue", "When Does Cry", "Kiss", "Forever In My Life", "Adore", etc etc etc etc. Bring on the days of rapping, following the clanky, echoey, dated sounding production of the early-mid 90's.

He got back to being THAT Prince in the mid 90's, when he was at his second peak of being prolific, trend setting, unique, awesome, etc. I've said it before and I'll say it again: It's when Prince is in battle with someone or something (WB) that he has created his best music. In the mid 80's when he was shuffling girlfriends, and having conflicts w/ them that he created gems like "The Beautiful Ones", "Strange Relationship", "When Doves Cry". It was the mid 90's that he created masterpieces like The Gold Experience, Exodus, and Come. When he got free from the WB, and got wild and loose again, his music suffered greatly. No way the 00's can fairly be compared to the 80's or the 90's. The trend was broken by the time New Power Soul came out.


(Not that you tried) But you have failed to get me to listen to Jughead! confused

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Reply #3 posted 12/07/09 10:34am

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ernestsewell said:

Marrk said:

I'll start with the obvious, 'Jughead'.

This song apart from the obvious horrible rapping, marks a watershed moment in Prince history, he was following rather than leading, really for the very first time. The whole thing is awful, i have no idea if it's supposed to be serious or comedic (it's neither) when he performed it on the D&P tour his section was a cheesey lip-synched VT of him in his dressing room, i thinked this is the song he simulated bum-sex with the Game Boyz, the music is a shambolic retread of 'Housequake' with all the funk drained out, Tony M (had to mention him) the crap ending, the 'comedy' slap. Urrrgh.

That's a very good statement, and one a lot of us have echoed in the past more than once. It was the early 90's that Prince started to follow trends, instead of create them. Long gone were the days of drum machines fed through guitar pedals. Long gone were the days of his force as a one man band. Long gone were the days of benchmark songs like "DMSR", "Computer Blue", "When Does Cry", "Kiss", "Forever In My Life", "Adore", etc etc etc etc. Bring on the days of rapping, following the clanky, echoey, dated sounding production of the early-mid 90's.

He got back to being THAT Prince in the mid 90's, when he was at his second peak of being prolific, trend setting, unique, awesome, etc. I've said it before and I'll say it again: It's when Prince is in battle with someone or something (WB) that he has created his best music. In the mid 80's when he was shuffling girlfriends, and having conflicts w/ them that he created gems like "The Beautiful Ones", "Strange Relationship", "When Doves Cry". It was the mid 90's that he created masterpieces like The Gold Experience, Exodus, and Come. When he got free from the WB, and got wild and loose again, his music suffered greatly. No way the 00's can fairly be compared to the 80's or the 90's. The trend was broken by the time New Power Soul came out.


Whilst I'm inclined to agree with this, it is funny now we're nearing the end of the 00's, fans are all of a sudden becoming nostalgic about the 90s. I remember being a member of Prince.org in the nineties and nobody had a good word to say about a Prince record post-Lovesexy...
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Reply #4 posted 12/07/09 10:34am

ernestsewell

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(Not that you tried) But you have failed to get me to listen to Jughead! confused

lol


My plan was perfectly executed then. hahahaha
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Reply #5 posted 12/07/09 10:41am

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MattyJam said:

ernestsewell said:


That's a very good statement, and one a lot of us have echoed in the past more than once. It was the early 90's that Prince started to follow trends, instead of create them. Long gone were the days of drum machines fed through guitar pedals. Long gone were the days of his force as a one man band. Long gone were the days of benchmark songs like "DMSR", "Computer Blue", "When Does Cry", "Kiss", "Forever In My Life", "Adore", etc etc etc etc. Bring on the days of rapping, following the clanky, echoey, dated sounding production of the early-mid 90's.

He got back to being THAT Prince in the mid 90's, when he was at his second peak of being prolific, trend setting, unique, awesome, etc. I've said it before and I'll say it again: It's when Prince is in battle with someone or something (WB) that he has created his best music. In the mid 80's when he was shuffling girlfriends, and having conflicts w/ them that he created gems like "The Beautiful Ones", "Strange Relationship", "When Doves Cry". It was the mid 90's that he created masterpieces like The Gold Experience, Exodus, and Come. When he got free from the WB, and got wild and loose again, his music suffered greatly. No way the 00's can fairly be compared to the 80's or the 90's. The trend was broken by the time New Power Soul came out.


Whilst I'm inclined to agree with this, it is funny how as we are now nearing the end of the 00's, fans are all of a sudden becoming nostalgic about the 90s. I remember being a member of Prince.org in the nineties and nobody had a good word to say about a Prince record post-Lovesexy...


1989-93 is a blackhole in my fandom, i really dislike his studio albums thru those years. i've not listened to D&P right thru since the year it was out.

*another of my threads goes tits up!* lol
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Reply #6 posted 12/07/09 10:42am

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Marrk said:

MattyJam said:



Whilst I'm inclined to agree with this, it is funny how as we are now nearing the end of the 00's, fans are all of a sudden becoming nostalgic about the 90s. I remember being a member of Prince.org in the nineties and nobody had a good word to say about a Prince record post-Lovesexy...


1989-93 is a blackhole in my fandom, i really dislike his studio albums thru those years. i've not listened to D&P right thru since the year it was out.

*another of my threads goes tits up!* lol
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You don't even like Come??
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Reply #7 posted 12/07/09 10:45am

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MattyJam said:

Marrk said:



1989-93 is a blackhole in my fandom, i really dislike his studio albums thru those years. i've not listened to D&P right thru since the year it was out.

*another of my threads goes tits up!* lol
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You don't even like Come??


yes, my mistake. Batman, GB, D&P and Symbol. Aack! ill
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Reply #8 posted 12/07/09 10:57am

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Marrk said:

MattyJam said:



You don't even like Come??


yes, my mistake. Batman, GB, D&P and Symbol. Aack! ill


Symbol has a handful of great tracks, namely Sweet Baby, Damn U and The Morning Papers. 3 Chains O Gold is also something of a guilty pleasure of mine. I also love the sound of the NPG around that time - I think that was Prince's tightest band line-up.

Batman, GB and D&P are a mess though.
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Reply #9 posted 12/07/09 9:17pm

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everyone already seems to LOVE pheromone and i detest it like a sickness stab



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Reply #10 posted 12/07/09 9:25pm

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All The Midnights In The World bawl

Is there's sometin' else to say ?
I'll die in your arms under the cherry moon...
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Reply #11 posted 12/08/09 1:34am

jonylawson

i have always liked jughead!
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