Efan said:

Are you creative in any way - either professionally or as a hobby? And, if so, what do you create?
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lotusflw3r said:

Never heard about this, would be interesting to listen to the Vandross track. Does anybody know which song it is?

There was also a rumor going round that "Question Of U" has been lifted from an old 50's tune. But i guess it was just that, a rumor...
[Edited 11/13/09 1:04am]

I can see where one MIGHT hear a similarity but I don't hear this one. To me the beat in MG's song is so basic that it could be similar to many other songs.
Not that No more candy's beat or chord progression is complex at all but if we compare the amount of musical notes available and the amount of songs produced since the beginning of time, well there are bound to be similarities in quite a few places.

Bohemian67 said:

Excuse me, but we're talking about "Dance 4 Me" here - not "No More Candy 4 U"!
[Edited 11/13/09 7:38am]

Its not a complete rip-off, but the way Prince handles that beat and especially the bass-line sure sounds suspicious.

Efan has a point there: Dreamer is a straight down jimmi hendrix rip-off, Dance 4 me isnt very original, the bridge on Planet Earth is a rip off.

In the past Prince did use elements from Sly, Jimmi, James and the Beatles without 'exactly' copying them, but nowadays it seems he is taking it easy, and going for blatant stealing

Definitely hear the similarities between MG & Zapp "I can make you dance" also.
Comparison to other artists will be inevitable, especially since a lot of orgers have vast musical knowledge too.

some of these "dead people" were around during Prince's formative musical years. Didn't he teach himself music by listening to songs & then playing them?

Like

hollywooddove said:

Just an aside...maybe the "Dance 4 Me" muse (real or imagined) is a "Masochistic Beauty" too?

(off to copywright my red car now; it has four wheels AND right hand drive)
Certified

Riverpoet31 said:

No he doesn't! Dreamer is an homage to Jimi, not a rip - there is a MASSIVE difference! You know, it is possible to tastefully nod to the past without "stealing" from it.

Its completely ignorant to accuse one of the most original and prolific composers of our generation of simply stealing from other tunes. Prince has always been about fusion of styles and sounds and incorporating what has been before in to something new and distinctly Prince sounding - accusations of ripping off other artists are actually just laziness on the part of the listener to properly appreciate hoe Prince utilises a wide musical palette and a myriad influences.

I played Lotusflow3r to an amazing guitarist friend of mine recently - for him, the most stunning thing was the amount of influences he heard in the album. What he thought was incredible is that you'll often hear an artist wear one or two of their influences on their sleeve whilst, with Prince, he could hear 20!

Anyway - please provide actual examples as to how Prince is stealing these days instead of just displaying influences and explain your reasoning.

Riverpoet31 said:

fucking bullshit

Soulstar77A said:

My apologies, I always mix the two up because they're similar to me. (in mood not in song)

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

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I did not say you said it. It was posted on this board. Please remove head from ass now.

Mindflux said:

Well put!

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They are some similarities but I could think of a thousand tracks that sounds similar 2 prince songs. does that mean the 1000 trax r ripped of prince?

Love stone by timberlake is similar 2 lady cab driver does that mean timberland/timberlake stole from prine.
Thriller has a similar bass line 2 rick james give it 2 me baby.
It's music it's what u do with it. Inspiration.

Soulstar77A said:

Inspired yes, rip-off no

Half the stuff performed by other artists on the radio since 1984 sounds way too "Princely" and to everyone theyre hits. When Prince gets inspired by other artists hes called a thief. (By his own fans no doubt) How Sad!
[Edited 11/25/09 17:35pm]

Jamie Starr is a thief! Not Prince!

No seriously, as i have posted before:

IT WAS A MISTAKE TO MAKE USE OF THE WORD "RIP-OFF" WHEN STARTING THIS THREAD!

MY APPOLOGIES!

But then again, I still think P was "inspired" by Marvins song in one way or another... The bassline you know, it's the bass line....
[Edited 12/10/09 13:24pm]

Prince did NOT rip off Marvin Gaye. Prince be makin Marvin Gaye proud

colorblu said:

Innit

colorblu said:

Especially after laying down his daughter

Don't U guys honestly believe that every song by everybody sounds like another song somewhere in the world?

It's fun to talk about similarities but "rip-off," is going overboard a bit.

Soulstar77A said:

That's dumb. Where Marvin is at, he understands what sex is about and it is NOT all about 'sex.' Get over that aspect, there's lots more to learn for All of Us

Tame said:

NO!



Read my post please!

colorblu said:

Totally off-topic: So because Marvin is in heaven, he thinks its okay for P to bone his daughter? And Marvin didnt know what sex is about when he was with us on earth? Huh? Don't get it.. Can you explain please?
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Giovanni777 said:

I swear some of you guys keep the hate on blast!!! And then there are some who just tell it like it t i is.

Soulstar77A said:

No. Please don't "explain". The "Especially after laying down his daughter" post speaks for itself. IGNORANCE.
[Edited 12/11/09 15:48pm]

And this is a shock because....?
We know P is the King of the lyrical and melodic repurpose.
Ole boy shifty than a mug.

Soulstar77A said:

You could make threads like this about every song. It gets boring after a while.