murph said:

I continue to enjoy your level headed thread Murph, and comments.

Vendetta1 said:

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hating brigade

Because this is a fan site.

Why would anyone waste their time much less other fans time with redundent post about how much that can't stand what Prince is doing this week.

This is the reason many of us don't think these people have lives. P does not give one rat's ass about what any of us thinks and I would not even be a fan if he did care that much. His attitude is what makes him interesting and is one of the reasons he is still active in the music industry.

You have got to be really slow to have not figured this out and to think anyone on a fan site is interested in the non-stop bitch post from the same people over and over again.

If someone does not say something to the haters they will ruin this board and take it over.
[Edited 11/10/09 9:36am]

laurarichardson said:

*cough*

Laura I agree with your post. This is a fansite... wth are we fans supposed to do but discuss what we love about Prince an his music. I have seen him upclose in concert so many times now and all I get from him are warm positive vibes. He is so loving. I hate if he would come here and read some of the really nasty, negative stuff about him. Especially about things that he cannot control. Prince is love, I just know it, I feel it.

pplrain said:

No one is stopping you guys from doing that. Just as you feel Prince is love, other people might get different vibes. You guys want to be free to express that here but don't want others to express how they feel. That is not cool, nor fair.

laurarichardson said:

*cough*

Laura I agree with your post. This is a fansite... wth are we fans supposed to do but discuss what we love about Prince an his music. I have seen him upclose in concert so many times now and all I get from him are warm positive vibes. He is so loving. I hate if he would come here and read some of the really nasty, negative stuff about him. Especially about things that he cannot control. Prince is love, I just know it, I feel it.

I've had my bashing moments on a few things, like when lotusflow3r was launched and ended up being a disaster. Now i've always been a "lover" when it came 2 talk about Prince as a person and as a musician, reading so many bashing indeed made me go away from this site except for the "technical" threads such as discography or recording sessions threads. This as well as some "moderation" issues (some of them already were mentionned in this thread earlier so i'm not gonna extrapolate on this).

Basically, what shocks me in the so-called "haters" attitude is what shocks me in many internet forums and mundane discussions as well: the complete lack of compassion and respect for someone or, in other words: "how would u feel if THAT was said about YOU by someone u NEVER even met in ur life?".

I've had my fair share of celebrity even if it is at a local and ridiculously smaller level than Prince, and i've been bashed (in real life, not online) by people i had never met, basically 4 things that they thought i was doing or thinking or believing when they actually had no clue about who they were talking about. They just let reputation, gossip and their own fear and jealousy of my own particular freedom or success take control of their thoughts and they tried 2 destroy either me or my reputation. That sometimes hurt me a lot when i was younger, particularly considering that it was totally unfair and undeserved (i had never done a thing 2 these people), so i wouldn't encourage anyone 2 do it 2 anyone else.

Another thing is that i respect artists 4 their work and Prince more than most others because he taught me a lot. B it with his music, lyrics, political or spiritual statements and attitude, Prince taught me a LOT. He taught me about how 2 make efficient, wild art. He taught me, when i was a teenager, how 2 properly make love 2 a woman. He taught me a lot about God (even though i'm not a JW or even a christian), he taught me a lot about love and respect 4 others, he taught me a lot about how 2 b free, free-minded, independent, and how 2 keep doing what u feel right even if people r bashing u all the time or even if it's against the way the world goes. He taught me how 2 b proud and how 2 b humble.

And also, his music gave me a lot of fun and enjoyment, much more than the price of whatever little money i gave him in return when i bought his records or subscribed 2 his websites.

Now i don't worship Prince, i just respect him as one of the artists who's been very educative 2 me both as an artist and as a human being. Prince has his issues, i don't necessarly approve everything he's doing or saying, i don't necessarly love each and every one of his songs, but i respect him a lot and whatever this man did 2 contribute 2 my life was positive. As 4 the music, yeah i guess i'm really fascinated by this huge amount of mostly wonderful work and that's why, like a few others here, i'm always trying 2 find the rare song i might not have or more in4mation about a recording session or Prince's creative process.

I think every one deserves respect. I sometimes can't stand living on this planet because of the way people behave in real life, and bashing Prince (or Bria and any other associated artist) the way people do it here reflects what i can't stand in real life. Because calling people "creeps" and "assholes" doesn't lead nowhere, particularly when u never met such people and only have a part of the puzzle which is their personality. Because if there's ONE thing i'm SURE about, it's that Prince never personnaly did ANYTHING harmful 2 anyone here, so i really don't understand what's about all the bashing. What some people here write about Prince, these same people would certainly feel destroyed if it was written about them on a public forum. What some people write here about Prince makes me wonder how these people behave in their lives, and think that i probably wouldn't like 2 meet them because they seem 2 enjoy hurting others a lot.

Now i know it was a total waste of time writing this and i don't even know why i did it since no one's gonna listen 2 a word i wrote xcept 4 a very few, respectful and moderate, people here.

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[Edited 11/10/09 16:40pm]

I've had my bashing moments on a few things, like when lotusflow3r was launched and ended up being a disaster. Now i've always been a "lover" when it came 2 talk about Prince as a person and as a musician, reading so many bashing indeed made me go away from this site except for the "technical" threads such as discography or recording sessions threads. This as well as some "moderation" issues (some of them already were mentionned in this thread earlier so i'm not gonna extrapolate on this).

Basically, what shocks me in the so-called "haters" attitude is what shocks me in many internet forums and mundane discussions as well: the complete lack of compassion and respect for someone or, in other words: "how would u feel if THAT was said about YOU by someone u NEVER even met in ur life?".

I've had my fair share of celebrity even if it is at a local and ridiculously smaller level than Prince, and i've been bashed (in real life, not online) by people i had never met, basically 4 things that they thought i was doing or thinking or believing when they actually had no clue about who they were talking about. They just let reputation, gossip and their own fear and jealousy of my own particular freedom or success take control of their thoughts and they tried 2 destroy either me or my reputation. That sometimes hurt me a lot when i was younger, particularly considering that it was totally unfair and undeserved (i had never done a thing 2 these people), so i wouldn't encourage anyone 2 do it 2 anyone else.

Another thing is that i respect artists 4 their work and Prince more than most others because he taught me a lot. B it with his music, lyrics, political or spiritual statements and attitude, Prince taught me a LOT. He taught me about how 2 make efficient, wild art. He taught me, when i was a teenager, how 2 properly make love 2 a woman. He taught me a lot about God (even though i'm not a JW or even a christian), he taught me a lot about love and respect 4 others, he taught me a lot about how 2 b free, free-minded, independent, and how 2 keep doing what u feel right even if people r bashing u all the time or even if it's against the way the world goes. He taught me how 2 b proud and how 2 b humble.

And also, his music gave me a lot of fun and enjoyment, much more than the price of whatever little money i gave him in return when i bought his records or subscribed 2 his websites.

Now i don't worship Prince, i just respect him as one of the artists who's been very educative 2 me both as an artist and as a human being. Prince has his issues, i don't necessarly approve everything he's doing or saying, i don't necessarly love each and every one of his songs, but i respect him a lot and whatever this man did 2 contribute 2 my life was positive. As 4 the music, yeah i guess i'm really fascinated by this huge amount of mostly wonderful work and that's why, like a few others here, i'm always trying 2 find the rare song i might not have or more in4mation about a recording session or Prince's creative process.

I think every one deserves respect. I sometimes can't stand living on this planet because of the way people behave in real life, and bashing Prince (or Bria and any other associated artist) the way people do it here reflects what i can't stand in real life. Because calling people "creeps" and "assholes" doesn't lead nowhere, particularly when u never met such people and only have a part of the puzzle which is their personality. Because if there's ONE thing i'm SURE about, it's that Prince never personnaly did ANYTHING harmful 2 anyone here, so i really don't understand what's about all the bashing. What some people here write about Prince, these same people would certainly feel destroyed if it was written about them on a public forum. What some people write here about Prince makes me wonder how these people behave in their lives, and think that i probably wouldn't like 2 meet them because they seem 2 enjoy hurting others a lot.

Now i know it was a total waste of time writing this and i don't even know why i did it since no one's gonna listen 2 a word i wrote xcept 4 a very few, respectful and moderate, people here.

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[Edited 11/10/09 16:40pm]

Murph,

This well written and entertaining story completely changed my thoughts on who you might be. The midget posts made me think you were maybe twenty years old. Much like Prince did for you, the time you took to express yourself for our entertainment showed a side of sophistication that is quite frankly...refreshing.
I agree with you that there are "obsessed" fans on this site. I don't agree that it is relevant. Entertainment comes in many different forms some more destructive than others. This outlet called the org. is one manifestation of each of us and how we deal with our lives and even the stresses it produces. Another window into who we are and dare I say at the expense of being trite, another way we can learn about ourselves. The techie fan will obsess about the numbers, the passionate fan-the words in songs and so on. This is a great outlet for anyone who catches the Prince bug. Easy to do with such a great musician. A musician who has some songs I can't even listen to and others that mean so much to me that I am proud to be living at the same time as it came out. True timeless classics. In my opinion I think Prince would like your story you wrote in the beginning of this thread especially how he helped brake some of the normal stereo types you had back in the day. You are not trying to be prince's friend and I understand that but some of us in our own little way and as crazy as it sounds are trying to be prince's fans/friends. How can you define what is good for us and what isn't. You can't. You don't know us and we don't know you well enough to do so. Admittedly I did take some liberties in referencing who you are earlier on in this piece. I am all about freedom of expression. I also accept that in this day and age political correctness makes us have to work harder at choosing our words. Political correctness is not going anywhere for a reason. I have had to alter who I am because of it and in retrospect it has made me a better more caring person. I feel uncomfortable when you call Prince a midget and I am not sure of all of the reasons why. Most of all I would hate to just disregard any posts from a guy capable of such expression just because he makes me feel uncomfortable. I said my piece and I hope to read more posts from you in the future Murph.

Another heartfelt post...Thanks for the kind words.....

On the real, as noted, the words at the beginning of the post are mine....But the actual Prince story belongs to a poster from the Roots' Okay Player site.....

I think the underlining point of the post was not to get too personally high or too low when it comes to Prince...Now being that the Org is a Prince fansite, I perfectly understand the more hardcore element of Prince fans who come here...I myself believe that Prince is the most gifted popular musician/artist of his era...I have collected most of the albums...He is indeed my favorite music act of all time....

I have seen the man live four times...I have most of the bootlegs....I cheered him on during his 2004 comeback....and from time to time I have criticized some of his puzzling actions from his brazen treatment of the fan sites to the head scratching logic behind some of his musical releases over the years...

But my adulation/criticism of Prince has never become too personally involved.....It matters little to me what religion Prince practices...It matters little to me that he no longer curses...It matters little to me that he has treated a few of his bandmates in an asshole manner in 2009, when he was doing some of the same my-way-or-the-highway control freak shit during his artistic height in the '80s (it's funny how the same fans then didn't have much to complain about some of Prince's asshole behavior when he was making the music they liked...)....Second hand gossip about the man doesn't affect me one way or the other....

To me, the all or nothing attitude on the Org has gotten too much...Its as if you only have a choice of being the type of fan that cries at the hint of any criticism (or joke) of Prince OR the fan obsessed with showing he/she is not a Purple Kool Aid drinker, posting an endless amount of "Why Prince sucks today" diatribes as if you are exhibiting some type of noble bravery that must be acknowledged...And on Prince site no less...lol)

Me calling Prince "The Midget" in a couple of posts should not even be the main point gained from that post...I think this thread has been very cathartic for some folks...It's also highlighted the extremist behavior on both sides...

Anyway, good post homie...I may not agree with it all, but as I stated, real is real...
[Edited 11/14/09 9:48am]

1depoet said:

I disagree with everything you have put forward about Prince.org. But I will fight like mad for you to say these things openly to paraphrase a american patriot. What makes a community thrive/grow/evolve is the interaction between all extremities. Now whether people know it or not, that is what inspires *IT* all. Your premise that the org must change is a fatal flaw by design. If the org was to change to your wishes it would be like the genie in the lamp. You would get your wish granted with massive unintended consequences. It's one of the reasons why the org can't/won't change to fit ones perception. The org is anamorphic in nature. IT does as it pleases and we should embrace that.

Let people be whoever they wish to be portrayed on the org. Afterall that is what generates the energy on this discussion board. It's similar to Nahright.com. That is the grittiest place you will go for comments section and discussion. But it's what makes it a success and keeps the conversation flowing and why it's one of the most popular sites on the web for hip hop debates. The all or nothing is where Prince.org is at it's current growth stage. Again, you have to let go of the "place it could be" especially with anarchaic place like this. That's what I would add to this thread.

Ponder that, you will find that I am more right than wrong in how the org should function as a community. We are human and we don't need filters/advise/therapy counsel when it comes to discussion art & expression. Nothing is too much on a message board. It's our canvas of venting. Whether someone is luker/curious dabbler/batshit crazy/moderate/fanatic apologist or a fanatic criticizer. It's all important to realize one thing: It all congeals together to be this place which we co exist in a fraction of time together in digital limbo together. And that's all that matters. Not what we would envision it to be. Afterall, that's not the point. The point is we are here. Embrace in the madness that is ALL. THAT is the answer.

[Edited 11/14/09 11:01am]
[Edited 11/14/09 11:02am]

Trickology said:

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New to this org...good description of the mixed toxic environment here!

1depoet said:

Another heartfelt post...Thanks for the kind words.....

On the real, as noted, the words at the beginning of the post are mine....But the actual Prince story belongs to a poster from the Roots' Okay Player site.....

I think the underlining point of the post was not to get too personally high or too low when it comes to Prince...Now being that the Org is a Prince fansite, I perfectly understand the more hardcore element of Prince fans who come here...I myself believe that Prince is the most gifted popular musician/artist of his era...I have collected most of the albums...He is indeed my favorite music act of all time....

I have seen the man live four times...I have most of the bootlegs....I cheered him on during his 2004 comeback....and from time to time I have criticized some of his puzzling actions from his brazen treatment of the fan sites to the head scratching logic behind some of his musical releases over the years...

But my adulation/criticism of Prince has never become too personally involved.....It matters little to me what religion Prince practices...It matters little to me that he no longer curses...It matters little to me that he has treated a few of his bandmates in an asshole manner in 2009, when he was doing some of the same my-way-or-the-highway control freak shit during his artistic height in the '80s (it's funny how the same fans then didn't have much to complain about some of Prince's asshole behavior when he was making the music they liked...)....Second hand gossip about the man doesn't affect me one way or the other....

To me, the all or nothing attitude on the Org has gotten too much...Its as if you only have a choice of being the type of fan that cries at the hint of any criticism (or joke) of Prince OR the fan obsessed with showing he/she is not a Purple Kool Aid drinker, posting an endless amount of "Why Prince sucks today" diatribes as if you are exhibiting some type of noble bravery that must be acknowledged...And on Prince site no less...lol)

Me calling Prince "The Midget" in a couple of posts should not even be the main point gained from that post...I think this thread has been very cathartic for some folks...It's also highlighted the extremist behavior on both sides...

Anyway, good post homie...I may not agree with it all, but as I stated, real is real...
[Edited 11/14/09 9:48am]

We're all gonna die. In the meantime, dont fuck w/ people and have some fun.

We're all gonna die. In the meantime, dont fuck w/ people and have some fun.

What up to the Org....Hope everyone is well...

Okay, so let me get right to it...This place has gotten nuts....

It's like we are in some political alternate universe (the conspiracy theory fringe left and Gov. Palin, Glen Beck bitter, bully right) where there's no longer room for moderate fans.....

You are either someone who would blindly take a bullet for Prince or an obsessive fan who feels the need to consistently and negatively dissect everything Prince does as if your life depends on the man's music and actions...

People on both sides have gotten waaaaay to involved in this dude....I really wanted to write a long note to the good folks at the Org, but I'll be at it all day....lol....

The irony is I found a post from another site (Okay Player) that was posted a few months ago...The homie Old Pro breaks it down from the heart in exactly the words that hit home...I make my living on writing and I can't think of anything better that can be applied to this place....

I still dig coming to the Org...But the shock posting (The: "I Hate Prince" Posts of the worlds...) and the overly sensitive emotions on this board (a couple of fans nearly cried when I nicknamed Prince the "Midget"...real talk...lol)

Anyway, here it is....I hope some folks will learn something from this....Let's try to gain some semblance of level headed thinking...They say MJ's (RIP) fans are the nuttiest....But just from the last three months or so, Prince fans may have Mike's fans beat....

Peace...


very,very deep and well stated.somewhat like you,i have been following P since he been out and i'll admit,he's raised my brow a few times.but as he developed,so did i.and i as well as you had peeps around me that flipped on P,saying he won't last,etc.etc.but over time he has given the world a different voice,and some of us prolly would take a bullet 4 that man,but he gives me a little hope,a little faith and some kick-ass beats to bump too.so if i'm crazy for listening to P and all his music,videos,interviews and so on,then i guess i'm crazy....congrats on being a father btw


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I think it's time some of you openly address your Prince Obsession


It's just not healthy the way some of y'all are carrying on. But I'm not here to name names... I make this post out of brotherly love. I understand, I really do. Let me tell you a little story.

Flash back to 1980. The black man with the Farrah hair is a B level star. Now I couldn't front on I Wanna Be Your Lover and Sexy Dancer but I still wasn't sold on this weird little dude with the big Speed Racer eyes and the solid gold dancer pants. Yeah he had some cuts but I just wasn't comfortable with how soft this cat looked. Dude looked like a bottom bitch if I've ever seen one. So any way, me and my boy head over to his brother's apartment Halloween night 1980.

His brother Eddie was the dude that taught me to mix and we'd go over there to make tapes all the time. So this night we promised to hand out candy in exchange for a couple hours on his system. I start flipping through his albums pulling out shit I want to tape ... Cameo Feel Me, cool.. George Duke, right on ... Bar-Kays, yep ... wait ... what in theeeee fuck is this shit? *turns to my boy and holds up Dirty Mind* He had obviously seen it before, he shakes his head and mutters "fag". I had no idea Prince even had a new album out ... I wasn't hearing anything on the radio. As pulled the inside sleeve out my boy says "that fag be talkin about fuckin his sister man" The irony of that statement was buried by the horror of what I just heard... and saw...

Prince laying on a bed with his legs up looking like he's ready to be fucked ... or even worse .. Fuck you! I looked almost hypnotically as the image .. still not believing what I was seeing..."He's singing about fuckin his sister? Are you serious"? I was pulling the record out as I said this and my eyes went right to the song... there is was "Sister" Like a driver passing a car wreck, I just had to hear this and hear it now. So I try and drop the needle on "Sister" but the way they run together I get the last 8-9 seconds of "Head" ...

In those few seconds my senses went into overload. Now keep in mind Eddie had a tight ass system. Those synths and popping bass coming out so crisp and clean through his reverb messaged my brain in a way I had never experienced before. Just like that it ends abruptly and the frantic beat of "Sister" starts. "I'm only 16 but I guess that's no excuse" what is this bullshit? ... wait dude this dude just said some shit his sister's "juice"? Ohhh hell no! *record continues to play* "Incest is everything it's said to be" *Looks over at my boy making a face like he just smelt the nastiest fart of all time* "Yeah fuck this dude" I said as I lifted the needle off the record. But for the rest of the night I couldn't help but think about those 10 seconds of "Head" I heard. I wanted to hear the rest but I couldn't play this with my boy there... Can't have him thinking I'm a "fag".

That night I knew what my mission was the next day (Saturday)... Get on my bike and make the 30 minute trip to Tower. I wake up and of course it's raining ... HARD. I don't have enough money for both the bus and the record so I have no choice ... I put the rain gear on and set off on. Thankfully it lets up a little about 10 minutes in but I'm still soaked by the time I get there. I go straight for the new release rack... it's not there. WTF?

I started thinking what if they don't carry this here. I mean dude is a homo that's talking about fuckin his Sister. Are there gay record shops I don't know about where you have to go for this? One of those dirty book stores maybe? I go to the artist section and look under Prince... For a split second I'm relieved it's there but then the second leg of my quest hits me like a ton of bricks ... how the hell am I going to take this shit up to the counter?

My heart races as I play my options through my head. I don't have enough money to buy another album to help provide cover so the only hope it to make a quick end run while no one is in line. I pace around for a good 20 minutes drying off and waiting until the window opened ... I make my move. I set the record down and avoid eye contact with the grimy rock chick behind the counter. She rings it up and I give her the money ... I'm actually shocked it went this smoothly... don't ask me what I thought would happen lol ... the closest thing I can compare this experience to was the first time I bought porn a few years later.

Any way I get the record home and go straight to my room. Head phones on (no way this can be played out loud) and away I went. The lyrics, sounds and images all created a world I wasn't sure I belonged in but was fascinated by all the same. I was really feeling this shit but it was coming with a heavy dose of shame. I was being sonically stimulated by a sister fucking "fag" in black stockings and a speedo... No way can this shit be healthy... but I couldn't stop.

What is happening to me? A few days pass and I come home from school one day to find moms in my room thumbing though my records... she's in the same stack as you know what! I immediately picture her coming across Dirty Mind, rushing over and laying hands on me to cast out the homosexual demons. "Do you have that song "One In a Million" she asks. Yes ... she's hasn't seen it yet! I make a quick move over to the stack and pick them all up... "I don't think it's in here but I have it somewhere" She turns and walks away "Thanks baby, tape it for me ok" Bullet dodged but we can't run this risk again... the album must be destroyed. I take the vinyl out and slip in into Gap III (where it remains to this day) Then out the door over to granny's house where granddad is almost certain to have a fire going on this cold November day. As luck would have it he was out back and granny was in the kitchen where she always was. I tossed the album and inner sleeve into the blaze ... there was something creepy as hell about watching the flames consume everything before Prince's face. Seeing those big ass eyes peering at me in the fire freaked me the fuck out for real. This only added to the occult feeling that was building in me in regards to P.

I remember it was right before Christmas when I heard these two girls in art class talking about Dirty Mind. It was the first time since that Halloween night I heard anyone else opening talk about it. The thing I remember most was them saying Prince was "fine"... I can't tell you how relieved this made me feel.. just the fact a girl was attracted to his new looked was enough to lessened the "gay factor" considerably. Make no mistake, I still felt something wasn't clean in his milk but it might be a little easier to "come out of the closet" and ride for some of these songs. I don't remember me or my boys ever openingly riding anything but "Head" & "Do It All Night" & "Party Up" though.

By the time Controversy rolled out my love/hate relationship with P was fully developed. He had so much potential ... why did he have to be so weird, so gay and at times ... so white? Why couldn't dude just be "normal" When the Time's first album dropped we all latched onto them as an example of what Prince should sound like... not realizing at the time the joke was on us.

1999 was when i finally gave in. The album still had it's share of "white" sounds but there was just too much there to deny this cat. So after finally winning me over what does he do... drops his whitest album to date with Purple Rain. I remember actually being pissed off people liked this shit. Like how can you dig this bullshit? It's not funky... it's not what he's "supposed" to be doing. Y'all only like it because it's Prince I argued. Yeah the B Sides are dope but the album sucks... as a matter of fact I argued it wasn't even supposed to be good. All the songs in the movie were supposed to suck up until his last set... The best song (Doves) was never performed on stage but was played music video style with him on his bike. Of course I missed the whole point that it was us that was the problem but you couldn't tell me nothing.

When ATWIAD dropped I was even convinced Prince was just fucking with people. Trying to see what he could record and still sell just because it was from Prince... dude was coughing on records for god's sake. Around this time my Prince hate was a full on blaze. I remember reading accounts of how poorly the movie UTCM was shaping up and quietly rejoicing... actually there wasn't anything quiet about it. Kiss dropped and I just knew it was a trap... the rest of the album is gonna suck I cautioned everyone. When it hit I felt vindicated.

It was shortly after this time (87) when a lot of my friends were starting to jump off the P bandwagon. The new single was "Sign O The Times" and wasn't really something the fellas wanted to jam. So I won right? Prince is exposed and falling off. But a funny thing happened for me... I had just become a father for the first time and was starting to process things differently.

I gave a lot of thought to the health and happiness of my child. One of the things I pondered was how would I feel if she turned out to be gay? Would I like someone directing the word "fag" at her? In an indirect way these question raised more questions in me as to how I processed and perceived things. I loved the songs Uptown and Dirty Mind back in 1980... so why couldn't I admit it at the time? It started to hit me and hit me hard ...

Prince was going to dress the way he wanted to dress, look the way he wanted to look and sing the shit he wanted to sing and he didn't give a fuck what we thought. My own insecurities were being attacked by this brass young cat from Minneapolis who was simply unflappable. It was now clear to me that a lot of my hate was envy... envy that this mutha fucker was going to do whatever the hell he wanted and we could take it or leave it... he simply didn't give a fuck.

The Prince we have now has changed a lot no doubt... but at his core he hasn't changed at all. He makes decisions based on what he wants to do and not what you think he should do. He's going to dress the way he wants to dress, talk the way he wants to talk and sing or NOT sing lyrics of his choosing... and if you don't like it tough shit... some of y'all just can't deal with that... but you can't seem to ignore it either. I think it's time to face up to the reasons why.
[Edited 11/7/09 19:30pm]