but I admit to hate Larry Graham with a passion, I just can't stand that man and his singing and preaching. Everyday People is such a crap song too, like most of his material.... to hear Prince cover these songs live, is so tiring, jeezuz I just hate this man, Larry Graham, and all he did to Prince

I have no idea what this thread is about, Prince haters?? am I a Prince hater??

No I don't think so myself, but I'm not "with Prince" in all the crazy stuff he's doing...

sueing and threatening his own fans

I will never understand why he's a memeber of the Jehovah sect

I'm no Prince hater,

but I admit to hate Larry Graham with a passion, I just can't stand that man and his singing and preaching. Everyday People is such a crap song too, like most of his material.... to hear Prince cover these songs live, is so tiring, jeezuz I just hate this man, Larry Graham, and all he did to Prince

but.... Prince himself is very complex, he has his strength and weaknesses - maybe just like you and me, so he may be human after all

thedance said:

This may be the most childish post I've ever seen on the org!!!

What the hell is wrong with you???

1st of all Songs like Everyday People, Thank You Falettinme Be Mice Self Agin, is a Sly & The Family Stone song.

Which Larry Graham was a member of.

To say you hate someone you've never even met, and hasn't don't a damn thing wrong is stupid!!!

You say you don't like all the preaching Prince and Larry Graham do on stage and in their music.

Did you have a problem when Prince put "The Lord's Prayer" in the middle of Controversy, which is one of his most popular songs??? I'm guessing you didn't.

Was Prince preaching too much during The Purple Rain Tour when he said at every show that There's only 1 Lord, Jesus? I don't think so.

God, there's so much hypocrisy about this topic!!!

If Larry Graham was Prince's Heroin Dealer, nobody would care!!!

So please think before you throw around words like HATE.

I've had my bashing moments on a few things, like when lotusflow3r was launched and ended up being a disaster. Now i've always been a "lover" when it came 2 talk about Prince as a person and as a musician, reading so many bashing indeed made me go away from this site except for the "technical" threads such as discography or recording sessions threads. This as well as some "moderation" issues (some of them already were mentionned in this thread earlier so i'm not gonna extrapolate on this).

Basically, what shocks me in the so-called "haters" attitude is what shocks me in many internet forums and mundane discussions as well: the complete lack of compassion and respect for someone or, in other words: "how would u feel if THAT was said about YOU by someone u NEVER even met in ur life?".

I've had my fair share of celebrity even if it is at a local and ridiculously smaller level than Prince, and i've been bashed (in real life, not online) by people i had never met, basically 4 things that they thought i was doing or thinking or believing when they actually had no clue about who they were talking about. They just let reputation, gossip and their own fear and jealousy of my own particular freedom or success take control of their thoughts and they tried 2 destroy either me or my reputation. That sometimes hurt me a lot when i was younger, particularly considering that it was totally unfair and undeserved (i had never done a thing 2 these people), so i wouldn't encourage anyone 2 do it 2 anyone else.

Another thing is that i respect artists 4 their work and Prince more than most others because he taught me a lot. B it with his music, lyrics, political or spiritual statements and attitude, Prince taught me a LOT. He taught me about how 2 make efficient, wild art. He taught me, when i was a teenager, how 2 properly make love 2 a woman. He taught me a lot about God (even though i'm not a JW or even a christian), he taught me a lot about love and respect 4 others, he taught me a lot about how 2 b free, free-minded, independent, and how 2 keep doing what u feel right even if people r bashing u all the time or even if it's against the way the world goes. He taught me how 2 b proud and how 2 b humble.

And also, his music gave me a lot of fun and enjoyment, much more than the price of whatever little money i gave him in return when i bought his records or subscribed 2 his websites.

Now i don't worship Prince, i just respect him as one of the artists who's been very educative 2 me both as an artist and as a human being. Prince has his issues, i don't necessarly approve everything he's doing or saying, i don't necessarly love each and every one of his songs, but i respect him a lot and whatever this man did 2 contribute 2 my life was positive. As 4 the music, yeah i guess i'm really fascinated by this huge amount of mostly wonderful work and that's why, like a few others here, i'm always trying 2 find the rare song i might not have or more in4mation about a recording session or Prince's creative process.

I think every one deserves respect. I sometimes can't stand living on this planet because of the way people behave in real life, and bashing Prince (or Bria and any other associated artist) the way people do it here reflects what i can't stand in real life. Because calling people "creeps" and "assholes" doesn't lead nowhere, particularly when u never met such people and only have a part of the puzzle which is their personality. Because if there's ONE thing i'm SURE about, it's that Prince never personnaly did ANYTHING harmful 2 anyone here, so i really don't understand what's about all the bashing. What some people here write about Prince, these same people would certainly feel destroyed if it was written about them on a public forum. What some people write here about Prince makes me wonder how these people behave in their lives, and think that i probably wouldn't like 2 meet them because they seem 2 enjoy hurting others a lot. Now i know it was a total waste of time writing this and i don't even know why i did it since no one's gonna listen 2 a word i wrote xcept 4 a very few, respectful and moderate, people here.

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thedance said:

This may be the most childish post I've ever seen on the org!!!

What the hell is wrong with you???

1st of all Songs like Everyday People, Thank You Falettinme Be Mice Self Agin, is a Sly & The Family Stone song.

Which Larry Graham was a member of.

To say you hate someone you've never even met, and hasn't don't a damn thing wrong is stupid!!!

You say you don't like all the preaching Prince and Larry Graham do on stage and in their music.

Did you have a problem when Prince put "The Lord's Prayer" in the middle of Controversy, which is one of his most popular songs??? I'm guessing you didn't.

Was Prince preaching too much during The Purple Rain Tour when he said at every show that There's only 1 Lord, Jesus? I don't think so.

God, there's so much hypocrisy about this topic!!!

If Larry Graham was Prince's Heroin Dealer, nobody would care!!!

So please think before you throw around words like HATE.

thedance said:

This may be the most childish post I've ever seen on the org!!!

What the hell is wrong with you???

1st of all Songs like Everyday People, Thank You Falettinme Be Mice Self Agin, is a Sly & The Family Stone song.

Which Larry Graham was a member of.

To say you hate someone you've never even met, and hasn't don't a damn thing wrong is stupid!!!

You say you don't like all the preaching Prince and Larry Graham do on stage and in their music.

Did you have a problem when Prince put "The Lord's Prayer" in the middle of Controversy, which is one of his most popular songs??? I'm guessing you didn't.

Was Prince preaching too much during The Purple Rain Tour when he said at every show that There's only 1 Lord, Jesus? I don't think so.

God, there's so much hypocrisy about this topic!!!

If Larry Graham was Prince's Heroin Dealer, nobody would care!!!

So please think before you throw around words like HATE.

I have no idea what this thread is about

I think every one deserves respect. I sometimes can't stand living on this planet because of the way people behave in real life, and bashing Prince (or Bria and any other associated artist) the way people do it here reflects what i can't stand in real life. Because calling people "creeps" and "assholes" doesn't lead nowhere, particularly when u never met such people and only have a part of the puzzle which is their personality. Because if there's ONE thing i'm SURE about, it's that Prince never personnaly did ANYTHING harmful 2 anyone here, so i really don't understand what's about all the bashing. What some people here write about Prince, these same people would certainly feel destroyed if it was written about them on a public forum. What some people write here about Prince makes me wonder how these people behave in their lives, and think that i probably wouldn't like 2 meet them because they seem 2 enjoy hurting others a lot. Now i know it was a total waste of time writing this and i don't even know why i did it since no one's gonna listen 2 a word i wrote xcept 4 a very few, respectful and moderate, people here.

Hi Paris, have you ever seen the performance of the song: The Christ??



Prince with Larry and Chaka are singing on this song, the song formerly known as The Cross... try to watch it somewhere and you will know why Larry Graham is disliked (hated?) by many.. at least by me.

Imo: Prince and Larry completely ruined a classic Prince song, some weird JW talking about Jesus not dying on a cross but on a stauros (or whatever that is called?), and renaming one of my fave songs The Christ... silly. But try to watch the performance somewhere, maybe you will agree with me then:

Larry was and is a bad thing which happened to Prince. I really dislike him a lot
[Edited 11/11/09 8:03am]

Yeah, I saw that performance. So what?

Prince has been doing stuff like that his entire career.

Paris9748430 said:

Did you really enjoyed Larry singing on The Cross, eh I mean The Christ... !


and..... no, Prince hasn't been "re-naming songs in his entire career",

I dislike Larry's singing, his JW preaching, all he did to Prince and his boring music.


Omg, this album... so embarrassed
[Edited 11/11/09 21:44pm]

Paris... maybe you haven't read this?

^ Whatever.. let me hate Larry, I won't repeat why

move on

^ I don't understand why you like Larry Graham, I have seen him once in Copenhagen 1998, opening for Prince.. I did not like it, his music is not me, but I respect your opinion.

I don't expect you to understand why I dislike him, but I really don't like anything about him. And I blame him for... you know already.

Enough of that shit, let's move on, preschooler or not...

I like him, because he's a great musician. One of the innovators of his instrument and a Vital member of one of the greatest bands of all-time.

His solo stuff is also really good, too.

This isn't about me liking Larry Graham.

It's about your unwarranted hate for someone for no reason.

In your mind you think he turned Prince into something he didn't want to be.

You act like he sat him in a chair, restrained him, and read him The New World Translation against his will.

You're being irrational.

Paris9748430 said:

I have plenty of reasons to dislike Larry, this is repetition time:

Larry is a mean bass played, I admit - but I don't like his music,

I hate when Prince is doing GCS/ Larry Graham covers at concerts yuck,

I don't like the JW sect, and I blame Larry for converting Prince into it, read the Notorious article.

Let's agree to disagree.... you seem to like Larry Graham,

I can't stand him, worst thing that happened to Prince in his career was to include LG to the NPG,

now move on to something different

^ Obsessive fan, me ?

alright, but I only speak my honest opinion, I agree I was a little surprised to see that Bart comment.

whatever.

^ Hate, is that word too hard for you, for me it is just the opposite of love, I can handle it,

but if it fits you better, I can use words like dislike or detest,

whatever.. the result is I don't like the impact Larry has (had) on Prince.

the changes "inside Paisley Park" was for the worse, imo.

When I tell friends, family that Prince is member of JW people shakes their heads. To most danes JW is a very bad sect.

If some of you can't handle my opinion towards LG, just ignorre and move on.

^ Hate, is that word too hard for you, for me it is just the opposite of love, I can handle it,

but if it fits you better, I can use words like dislike or detest,

whatever.. the result is I don't like the impact Larry has (had) on Prince.

the changes "inside Paisley Park" was for the worse, imo.

When I tell friends, family that Prince is member of JW people shakes their heads. To most danes JW is a very bad sect.

If some of you can't handle my opinion towards LG, just ignorre and move on.

thedance said:

This thread is the gift that keeps on giving...

^ Obsessive fan, me ?

thedance said:

Because when you use the word HATE for people you don't actually personally know or that haven't adversely affected your life, besides the trivial fact that your favorite artist became a JW convert and now makes music you don't like (oh, boo-hoo), it's troubling....It's sad actually....

Only obsessive fans show total disdain for an artist because of the religion their favorite artist is practicing.....You have to know this, right?....Show a little maturity, dignity, or just keep such obsessive talk to yourself....