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Reply #90 posted 08/21/09 1:42pm

violetblues

bebe319 said:

The whole post is BULLSHIT. NPG/Colombia Red Flag right there.

Did you guys even read the TEXT?????

Those who visit HHNM regularly would know how big a P stan I am. So here goes the latest from the legend. ‘Better With Time’ which is track number 6 form his MPLSoUND disc of LotusFlow3r album will be released as a single to the Urban AC radio. One of the standout tracks on that disc goes to adds next week(24th August) via NPG/Columbia.

yea, what a "professional" blog. It's fairly obvious the person who posted this runs the blog and you guys have been giving him hits the entire day. At least that other orger blogger's site is professional and if there are spelling errors that shit is fixed good n plenty fast. Doesn't mean I like it, just means it is more on point.

Just because a song has been added to radio does not mean it is going for ads. This just seems like a play for AC radio stations but this blogger is full of shit.

bamboozled. The org is slipping. you guys used to catch this stuff really quick.
[Edited 8/21/09 13:40pm]




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Reply #91 posted 08/21/09 1:54pm

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bebe319 said:

The whole post is BULLSHIT. NPG/Columbia Red Flag right there.

Did you guys even read the TEXT?????

Those who visit HHNM regularly would know how big a P stan I am. So here goes the latest from the legend. ‘Better With Time’ which is track number 6 form his MPLSoUND disc of LotusFlow3r album will be released as a single to the Urban AC radio. One of the standout tracks on that disc goes to adds next week(24th August) via NPG/Columbia.

yea, what a "professional" blog. It's fairly obvious the person who posted this runs the blog and you guys have been giving him hits the entire day. At least that other orger blogger's site is professional and if there are spelling errors that shit is fixed good n plenty fast. Doesn't mean I like it, just means it is more on point.

Just because a song has been added to radio does not mean it is going for ads. This just seems like a play for AC radio stations but this blogger is full of shit.

bamboozled. you are slippin! you guys used to catch this stuff really quick.
[Edited 8/21/09 13:42pm]

I also saw it listed on another board (Pulse Music board) and it listed NPG/Columbia also. Not sure where they get their info from, though.
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Reply #92 posted 08/21/09 3:34pm

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laurarichardson said:

purplecam said:


I guess if he was a 50 year old white woman, he'd have less if no problems. Just sayin...

I agree with you. At least R&B will support the dude. I'm happy to hear Prince whereever and whenever I can. nod

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"I guess if he was a 50 year old white woman, he'd have less if no problems. Just sayin... "

Unfortunately yes. Pop stations have no problem playing Madonna’s god awful music and she is 50 years old and looks it (LOL) I believe pop stations will still be playing Madonna’s music when she is 70 (LOL)

Sometimes you have to take the love where you can get it. In P’s case that would be RnB stations.


Madonna's last couple of albums have had disappointing sales and her airplay has also shrunk. Radio caters to tweens and teens. Mature artists of all colors and genders get no love from contemporary radio (pop or urban). Part of the problem, is that people over the age of 35 tend to be nostalgists who do not buy new and creative music.
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Reply #93 posted 08/21/09 4:30pm

2elijah

bebe319 said:

The whole post is BULLSHIT. NPG/Columbia Red Flag right there.

Did you guys even read the TEXT?????

Those who visit HHNM regularly would know how big a P stan I am. So here goes the latest from the legend. ‘Better With Time’ which is track number 6 form his MPLSoUND disc of LotusFlow3r album will be released as a single to the Urban AC radio. One of the standout tracks on that disc goes to adds next week(24th August) via NPG/Columbia.

yea, what a "professional" blog. It's fairly obvious the person who posted this runs the blog and you guys have been giving him hits the entire day. At least that other orger blogger's site is professional and if there are spelling errors that shit is fixed good n plenty fast. Doesn't mean I like it, just means it is more on point.

Just because a song has been added to radio does not mean it is going for ads. This just seems like a play for AC radio stations but this blogger is full of shit.

bamboozled. you are slippin! you guys used to catch this stuff really quick.
[Edited 8/21/09 13:42pm]

lol Bamboozled, not me. lol I actually noticed the horrible spelling/grammatical errors, on the first line of that site, but my reponses on this thread, are moreso based on orger, Smittyrock's posts, where he/she listed what stations the track is actually being played on. In my opinion, that's a good thing, even though some fans feel a different track should have been released from the cd, as a single to those stations.
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Reply #94 posted 08/21/09 5:14pm

squirrelgrease

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KeithyT said:

I love the song but as usual Prince's (presumably?) choice for a radio single has thrown me a curveball confused

So does this mean that Dance 4 Me is NOT now going to be a single of any kind (I was ideally hoping to end up with the Remix on a CD single format)


Dance 4 Me seems to still be on the agenda for European release.

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Reply #95 posted 08/21/09 7:35pm

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purplecam said:

2elijah said:



That's just it purplecam, it seems the RnB stations will open up to him, but getting these pop stations to play his "current" music is another.
[Edited 8/21/09 7:11am]

I guess so but it's not fair that someone like Madonna (I hate bringing up her name barf) can still get her current shit played on a pop station but Prince can't and they are both icons and the same age. I know there is a different dynamic with those 2 and I shouldn't compare but it just irks me, especially after hearing her new song while at Subway for lunch the other day, which sucks by the way. Prince is still doing the damn thing and I want everyone to hear what he's doing and yet he's can only get one format to play his new stuff.

Not for nothing, you are right about one thing 2elijah. At least R&B stations still want his music and thank God for that. I hope it does extremely well there. I also hope we hear it all over 98.7 Kiss FM and WBLS. Maybe, just maybe, KTU will play it too. If they could play Call My Name, why not Better With Time? Fingers crossed and prayers go forth! pray biggrin


Older black artists don't get play on pop stations. (Please don't say Michael Jackson either! He had to die to become marketable to radio again.) Prince has been aware of this situation and markets himself to a more mature audience and his core fanbase. His singles/videos tend more to be aimed at an older R&B influenced audience.
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Reply #96 posted 08/22/09 12:50am

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KCOOLMUZIQ said:

laurarichardson said:


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"I guess if he was a 50 year old white woman, he'd have less if no problems. Just sayin... "

Unfortunately yes. Pop stations have no problem playing Madonna’s god awful music and she is 50 years old and looks it (LOL) I believe pop stations will still be playing Madonna’s music when she is 70 (LOL)

Sometimes you have to take the love where you can get it. In P’s case that would be RnB stations.


People seem 2 4get Madonna has been pushed by a major label her whole career. Prince took a big chance going independent. Radio doesn't embrace most independent artist unless they go major. Madonna has that advantage. But that don't mean she makes much profit like Prince has independently.

The songs that radio has played since Prince left Warners. Were only songs he made with major labels. Like The Musicology project, "Musicology", "Call my name". Radio only caters to major labels because they pay them off. That is why U hear the same songs over and over again. Prince is trying to break that cycle. But its a tough road and I'm sure he is frustrated with it
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True she doesn't make as much as Prince on cd sales, but she makes all that back AND more when she goes on tour lol

But anyway, I'm not surprised by his pick. It's funny because earlier in the year when lotus had just come out, someone had mentioned if it was going to be 1987 with Prince and U2 both releasing albums, the tv promotion etc. And as we all know in '87 instead of releasing Housequake he went with IIWYG, looks like the same thing just happened again, except the fact that this track isnt as groundbreaking lol
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Reply #97 posted 08/22/09 12:54am

armybrat

bebe319 said:

The whole post is BULLSHIT. NPG/Columbia Red Flag right there.

Did you guys even read the TEXT?????

Those who visit HHNM regularly would know how big a P stan I am. So here goes the latest from the legend. ‘Better With Time’ which is track number 6 form his MPLSoUND disc of LotusFlow3r album will be released as a single to the Urban AC radio. One of the standout tracks on that disc goes to adds next week(24th August) via NPG/Columbia.

yea, what a "professional" blog. It's fairly obvious the person who posted this runs the blog and you guys have been giving him hits the entire day. At least that other orger blogger's site is professional and if there are spelling errors that shit is fixed good n plenty fast. Doesn't mean I like it, just means it is more on point.

Just because a song has been added to radio does not mean it is going for ads. This just seems like a play for AC radio stations but this blogger is full of shit.

bamboozled. you are slippin! you guys used to catch this stuff really quick.
[Edited 8/21/09 13:42pm]


My dear friend. Sorry to burst your bubble but I do NOT run HHNM as pointed out by you.

Secondly, 'P Stan' is not a spell error, 'stan' basically means a 'crazy fan' and is derived from 'stalker fan', you may want to check-out http://www.internetslang.com/STAN.asp and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stan to know more on what 'stan' means.

Your comment was unfortunate to say the least.
[Edited 8/22/09 0:56am]
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Reply #98 posted 08/22/09 12:54am

udo

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armybrat said:

Hip Hop N More confirms that 'Better with Time' is the next single.
It officially goes for adds next week, 24th August to be precise.

Thanks to the blog which takes keen interest in Prince and also is refreshingly accurate in its reports without relying on hype or controversy.

http://hiphop-n-more.com/...with-time/

- No official announcement?
- 'Next single': there was a predecessor?
- What about timing?
- Choice? It's a slow song.
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Reply #99 posted 08/22/09 1:03am

udo

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squirrelgrease said:

Dance 4 Me seems to still be on the agenda for European release.

?????
There is 'somebody' doing some type of marketing here?
Anybody here care to explain about who, what and why?
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Reply #100 posted 08/22/09 1:08am

ShinNihonKikou

I think this is a bad choice for a single. It's one of those "gem" Prince songs that you "find" on the album, not the type of song that is "thrown" to a mass audience. A better single choice for r&b radio would have been "You're Gonna See Me" even though that is not a great choice either. I would have gone for "Dance For Me" from MPLSound or "Wall of Berlin" (maybe even "Love Like Jazz") from Lotus.
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Reply #101 posted 08/22/09 1:10am

ShinNihonKikou

Why would there be a new single release when the album is old and half a year old? There should have been a push months ago to grab a few more album sales.
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Reply #102 posted 08/22/09 2:19am

squirrelgrease

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armybrat said:

bebe319 said:

The whole post is BULLSHIT. NPG/Columbia Red Flag right there.

Did you guys even read the TEXT?????

Those who visit HHNM regularly would know how big a P stan I am. So here goes the latest from the legend. ‘Better With Time’ which is track number 6 form his MPLSoUND disc of LotusFlow3r album will be released as a single to the Urban AC radio. One of the standout tracks on that disc goes to adds next week(24th August) via NPG/Columbia.

yea, what a "professional" blog. It's fairly obvious the person who posted this runs the blog and you guys have been giving him hits the entire day. At least that other orger blogger's site is professional and if there are spelling errors that shit is fixed good n plenty fast. Doesn't mean I like it, just means it is more on point.

Just because a song has been added to radio does not mean it is going for ads. This just seems like a play for AC radio stations but this blogger is full of shit.

bamboozled. you are slippin! you guys used to catch this stuff really quick.
[Edited 8/21/09 13:42pm]


My dear friend. Sorry to burst your bubble but I do NOT run HHNM as pointed out by you.

Secondly, 'P Stan' is not a spell error, 'stan' basically means a 'crazy fan' and is derived from 'stalker fan', you may want to check-out http://www.internetslang.com/STAN.asp and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stan to know more on what 'stan' means.

Your comment was unfortunate to say the least.
[Edited 8/22/09 0:56am]


Hey, I learned a new term. Cool. biggrin Prince Stans should be called Fstans. But that' doesn't roll off the tongue... lessee... Fan + Stan = Stanf? I'll keep working on this...
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Reply #103 posted 08/22/09 2:21am

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udo said:

squirrelgrease said:

Dance 4 Me seems to still be on the agenda for European release.

?????
There is 'somebody' doing some type of marketing here?
Anybody here care to explain about who, what and why?


Dunno where that French announcement originated, but it looks legit.
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Reply #104 posted 08/22/09 2:52am

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do u know if it will play in sacramento....id love to hear it
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Reply #105 posted 08/22/09 4:31am

bebe319

squirrelgrease said:

udo said:


?????
There is 'somebody' doing some type of marketing here?
Anybody here care to explain about who, what and why?


Dunno where that French announcement originated, but it looks legit.




http://www.drfunkenberry....nce-4-him/

Now you tell me what looks more professional?

P Stan? lame. Explain the NPG/Columbia thing and the other misspellings.
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Reply #106 posted 08/22/09 5:43am

peter430044

purplecam said:

My thing is I want Prince to release songs that will grab EVERYONE, not just one segment of people. BWT is not a bad song but it won't grab the kids or some adults, even on the R&B stations. He needs to release "Dance 4 Me" or "Here". Those songs are smash hits waiting to happen cause they will grab everyone by the balls. Plus he needs to stop focusing primarily on the R&B stations. He needs to bet back on the Pop stations and I won't buy that he can't get new music played there. He needs the right people around to push these songs, but of course Prince won't get the right people around him. I just don't get him when it comes to him and these single choices.
[Edited 8/21/09 6:42am]


Yes, Dance 4 Me and Here would be natural choices to reach a broader audience.
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Reply #107 posted 08/24/09 4:49pm

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http://gfa.radioandrecord...&Format=12

Radio and Records is reporting it's on NPG/Columbia also.
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Reply #108 posted 08/24/09 5:16pm

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PRINCE
Better With Time
Sorted By Spins STARTERS: A listing of the newest stations to put a title into rotation within the selected format, and their spins.
lw: Aug 10 - Aug 16 TW: Aug 17 - Aug 23 Starters Leaders

Station Market.....TW
WSRB-FM Chicago.....11
WBAV-FM Charlotte.....9
WPHR-FM Syracuse.....9
KNEK-FM Lafayette, LA...8
WLXC-FM Columbia, SC....5
KBLX-FM San Francisco...5
WFUN-FM St. Louis.....4
WHUR-FM Washington, DC..3
WRKS-FM New York.....2
WMXD-FM Detroit.....2
KMEZ-FM New Orleans.....2
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Reply #109 posted 08/24/09 5:39pm

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Prince has evidently decided he has no real shot at getting played on pop radio in the US, so is only aiming for R&B. He might be right, because honestly even though i adore Dance 4 Me and think it's an obvious single choice, I doubt pop radio would give him the time of day. Had it come out as the 2nd single to SOTT, it would have been a Top 10 hit, but 20+ years later... things have changed, sadly.
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Reply #110 posted 08/24/09 6:29pm

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seems like he has been wanting to replicate the success of "The Most Beautiful Girl in the World" for the last 15 years....

always with these damn ballads!
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Reply #111 posted 08/24/09 6:39pm

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itsjustaroundthecorner said:

seems like he has been wanting to replicate the success of "The Most Beautiful Girl in the World" for the last 15 years....

always with these damn ballads!



yup. and it will take a stronger song than "Better With Time" to accomplish that, even if it might be possible (which I doubt.)

Still... i'm glad he's releasing singles and trying to promote this record, because I think it's the strongest project overall he's done since the Come/TGE era.
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Reply #112 posted 08/24/09 7:59pm

gravity

armybrat said:

Hip Hop N More confirms that 'Better with Time' is the next single.
It officially goes for adds next week, 24th August to be precise.

Thanks to the blog which takes keen interest in Prince and also is refreshingly accurate in its reports without relying on hype or controversy.

http://hiphop-n-more.com/...with-time/


very cool - if it's true. This song is so tender. It touched me right from the first listen.
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Reply #113 posted 08/24/09 9:00pm

susanscourt

"Better with Time", I personally love the sentiment in this song and it's not the kind of lyrics we tend to hear in song (popular songs), I understand this song and enjoy it for that, hearing it on the radio I would definately tune in. This could be a perspective of my age group or in the need to hear something different. Overall I like it, although I understand why people think other songs off the album would have been a more obvious choice in regards to marketability (is that a word).
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Reply #114 posted 08/24/09 9:03pm

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No, it's not. "Dance 4 Me", "Here", "Ol' Skool Company", or "Love Like Jazz" would have made better singles than "Better With Time".

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Reply #115 posted 08/24/09 9:30pm

bellanoche

2elijah said:

purplecam said:

My thing is I want Prince to release songs that will grab EVERYONE, not just one segment of people. BWT is not a bad song but it won't grab the kids or some adults, even on the R&B stations. He needs to release "Dance 4 Me" or "Here". Those songs are smash hits waiting to happen cause they will grab everyone by the balls. Plus he needs to stop focusing primarily on the R&B stations. He needs to bet back on the Pop stations and I won't buy that he can't get new music played there. He needs the right people around to push these songs, but of course Prince won't get the right people around him. I just don't get him when it comes to him and these single choices.
[Edited 8/21/09 6:42am]


That's just it purplecam, it seems the RnB stations will open up to him, but getting these pop stations to play his "current" music is another.
[Edited 8/21/09 7:11am]


You're right. As he's said in the past, the RnB stations have his back moreso than the pop/rock stations. BWT should get airplay on those stations. However, I am a bit surprised that this is the single that was chosen for this format instead of U're Gonna C Me. I could see the local RnB station here wearing that one out like they did FBM. I wasn't complaining though. lol

My 43-year-old brother, who isn't really a Prince fan (he likes him but doesn't know his music beyond what I play) heard U're Gonna C Me, went and bought it, then put it on a Quiet Storm CD that he made. He said it was a jam and that when he played it for folks at work they loved it. A young girl even asked him who that was singing because she liked the song and asked for a copy. He told her she wasn't getting anything because she should be ashamed for not knowing Prince's voice. lol
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Reply #116 posted 08/24/09 9:33pm

Mya

Why this song for a single? neutral It's not single material lol.
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Reply #117 posted 08/24/09 9:39pm

bellanoche

laurarichardson said:

funksterr said:



I want to know why you brought up his race as a factor. The pop charts are dominated by African American artists and urban/inner city sounds and dance styles for like the last 10 to 15 years. Why did you cite something as ignorant as his race being a hinderance on airplay? That's an extremely odd statement to make and you can't defend it.

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Dude just the fact that you did not bother to answer my question about what over 50 black artists is getting played on Pop stations should answer your question.

You do not think it is weird that Madonna is a white woman over 50 and she still gets some play on pop station.

You would not think it was weird if Tina Turner came out with a CD tomorrow that was slamming that she would not get play on pop stations.

What about Satanna he has put out a few CDs since 2000 and he does not get any play on pop stations?

None of this seemed motivated by age, race demographics, and a lack of payola?


Young black acts and mostly rappers get play not older actual musicians and singers. These artists have no chance of getting play on Pop stations. Our society is controlled by the majority race our society includes business, which includes radio stations, and record companies these business want to make money.

They all spend millions of dollars trying to figure out how to get people with the most money to buy CDs and buy something based on all those radio commercials.

I can guarantee you that older black folk are not who pop radio stations and record companies are trying to appeal to.

We simply do not fit into the demographics they are trying to reach therefore, artist that would appeal to the over 40 set and her performing RnB music are not going to get played on POP stations.

It is no different than an RnB station not playing Milley Cyrus or the Jonas Brothers. These groups do not have an appeal in the African-American community.


In fact, the Bros and Miley are so horrible I doubt if they would have record deals at all, if they were black and I know payola has got to be one of the reason pop stations play their music. (LOL)


This is America and race still plays a role in things not as much as it use to but trust me large sections of America don't want to hear any RnB music at all.



Laurarichardson, you are on point, and I agree with you. Someone posted a quote awhile back from George Duke on this topic. He basically said something like it was hard to get airplay if you were over 40 and it if you were black and over 40 forget about it. If someone could post that comment, it would be great.

However, I think you are talking to a brick walk.
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Reply #118 posted 08/24/09 9:47pm

bellanoche

NoVideo said:

itsjustaroundthecorner said:

seems like he has been wanting to replicate the success of "The Most Beautiful Girl in the World" for the last 15 years....

always with these damn ballads!



yup. and it will take a stronger song than "Better With Time" to accomplish that, even if it might be possible (which I doubt.)

Still... i'm glad he's releasing singles and trying to promote this record, because I think it's the strongest project overall he's done since the Come/TGE era.


I don't think this is true. Prince's RnB crowd has always expected and enjoyed ballads or "slow jams" from him. He's delivered them since well before TMBGITW. Maybe the pop/rock world caught on to that one along with PR and D&P, but the RnB world has been down with his ballads since "Do Me Baby." I have always heard P's ballads on RnB radio. So, releasing a ballad to RnB doesn't seem like an attempt to recreate the success of TMBGITW.
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Reply #119 posted 08/24/09 9:57pm

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I love it,but I perfer "U'r Gonna C Me"
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