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Thread started 07/22/09 9:42pm

ernestsewell

Bruce, Madonna, Prince! 1984 was quite a year

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25 years ago, three of the most important albums dropped

Suppose one of the best years in pop music happened and nobody noticed.

A quarter of a century ago, in 1984, three of the most significant pop albums ever made came out. The year saw Bruce Springsteen’s landmark “Born in the U.S.A.” released June 4, Prince’s masterwork “Purple Rain” drop June 25 and Madonna’s classic “Like a Virgin” get unveiled Oct. 29. In other words, three of the most important albums ever were released within five months of each other.

Strangely enough, 1984 has gone almost unnoticed in pop history because there was no discernable trend that emerged that year, which is always a prerequisite for a “big” year in music (think the British Invasion of 1964, the punk revolution in 1977 or the grunge explosion of 1991). Yet 1984 was the year the artists who would largely define the 1980s made their definitive statements.
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Another reason the year gets overlooked is that there’s no generational “hook” for the media to latch onto. Look back to 1964 and you think of Baby Boomers. Mention 1991 and Generation X comes to mind. The artists that dominated 1984 attracted people from a variety of demographics. If anyone represented a generation it was Madonna, but Baby Boomer-centric publications like Time magazine seemed too preoccupied with criticizing her to hang a name on the legions of teens that identified with her.

Because of all this, 1984 is still better known as a novel on societal dystopia than as a year of pop utopia. All of which is a shame. The aforementioned albums have gone down as classics, consistently making various “best of” lists. Songs like “Glory Days,” “Material Girl” and “Purple Rain” have maintained their power, plus you can still put on these records without having to endure those wince-inducing “what were we thinking?” moments that ruin so much old music.

Born to reign
The most unexpected new superstar of the year, of course, was Madonna. When the year began, only a handful of dance music buffs had heard of her. By the time the year ended, no one would forget her. Credit Cyndi Lauper for paving the way for Madonna. In early 1984, people’s acceptance of Lauper’s idiosyncratic vocal style and persona gave notice that the world would accept a new kind of female star. Madonna, meanwhile, had released her debut album in 1983 to slow sales.

After Lauper, though, Madonna’s high-pitched, proudly “girlish” vocal style suddenly became commercial and the unique look she sported in the “Lucky Star” and “Borderline” videos didn’t seem too weird for MTV.

Those singles became unexpectedly belated hits, and pushed back the release of “Like a Virgin.” When it finally came out, it went platinum and delivered four top five hits and one No 1.

Springsteen was already popular, but few people suspected “Born in the U.S.A.” would explode the way it did. Pop music in the early 1980s was dominated by British bands, which were making Springsteen’s roots rock seem somewhat quaint. But the Boss was prepared for this brave new world, and made the album’s lead off single the groove-heavy “Dancing in the Dark.” It unexpectedly became his biggest hit to date, rising to No. 2 and the song’s video made Springsteen a regular on MTV, where he was previously barely seen.

Before long, Springsteen was as popular as the rock critics who championed him always said he’d be. “Born in the U.S.A.” topped the charts for seven weeks and went 15 times platinum domestically. The Boss had always been a huge concert draw; now his album sales were matching his live reputation. Seven hit singles were pulled from the album.

Springsteen might have seemed destined to be a household name, but Prince certainly wasn’t. Three years earlier, he went over so badly as an opening act for the Rolling Stones that he left their tour after just two dates. Yet “1999,” from 1982, gave him a Top 10 album and a trio of hits. When “Purple Rain” came out as a film and a soundtrack, the public was finally ready, maybe because Michael Jackson had paved the way for an African-American to reign.

“Purple Rain” stayed at the top of the album charts for nearly half the year, selling 13 million copies and spawning four Top 10 hits. Two of those hits went to No. 1; one of them, “When Doves Cry,” was the year’s top single.

All over the place
Not only were the top artists of 1984 not classifiable by style, neither were some of the other artists who made significant musical contributions. Run-D.M.C. released their groundbreaking debut album, which gave rap a less kinder, gentler feel and changed the rules of the genre. The film “Beat Street” was then considered a “break-dancing movie,” but in retrospect brought New York hip hop to the mainstream (along with pioneering rappers Afrika Bambaataa and Kool Moe Dee).

The indie rock scene found hardcore favorites Hüsker Dü release not one but two of their best albums, “Zen Arcade” and “New Day Rising.” The Replacements showed the first signs of being seriously great with “Let it Be” and the Bangles and R.E.M. offered two releases that were arguably their strongest of the 1980s, “All Over the Place” and “Reckoning.”

There was also a lot of commercial music only moms and dads could stand, but if you couldn’t handle the syrupy Phil Collins and Lionel Richie stuff, you could rock out to Billy Idol and Van Halen, both of whom put out some of their best work. The year even ended on a high note with the charity single “Do They Know It’s Christmas?” by the all-star group Band Aid.

When 1984 began, critics feared the still-novel MTV might seriously damage pop music by popularizing musicians who were more about looks than talent. For a moment that year it seemed the video revolution might not be so bad after all. That moment passed, of course.
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Reply #1 posted 07/22/09 9:49pm

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Reply #2 posted 07/22/09 10:24pm

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Now name the best selling album of 1984.

"Thriller" Michael Jackson.
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Reply #3 posted 07/22/09 10:24pm

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I'm kinda weird about these 3 albums. Well, not really Purple Rain. It's a total mainstream sell-out, but the best kind of sell-out there can be: one that's really good and one of the greatest albums of all-time.

The other two... I really like Born In The USA. It is a top-notch album in every respect. Every song on there, like Purple Rain, is hit-worthy and even the few that I don't dig are still pretty good songs. It also is a total mainstream sell-out, but another good one.

Like A Virgin? Madonna is my #2 all-time favorite, but this is probably my least favorite real studio album from her. Side 2 is the pits, really. The hits are great, but the 2 biggest from it are basically novelty tunes. The entire thing has a certain charm to it, but I've never quite warmed to this album in all the years it's been out. In 1983 and 1984 (I was 7) at my house and in my neighborhood, we were hardcore into her debut album and LAV just kind of sat there. I didn't pick her up again as my own until about 1990/1991.


I'm glad that these 3, unlike say, Michael Jackson and Thriller, never really felt the need to repeat or top the commercial success of these albums. They were better off for it. All 3 are interesting once-in-a-career curios in their catalogs.
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Reply #4 posted 07/22/09 10:42pm

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1984 was THE year!
And the Grammy's for that year (which I think technically would be the 85 Grammy's) is still my fave Grammy show EVER!

Tina Turner, Prince, Chaka, Cyndi, Sheila... cloud9


If only Lionel Richie hadn't won so many that should've gone to Prince. lol
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Reply #5 posted 07/22/09 10:44pm

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johnart said:

1984 was THE year!
And the Grammy's for that year (which I think technically would be the 85 Grammy's) is still my fave Grammy show EVER!

Tina Turner, Prince, Chaka, Cyndi, Sheila... cloud9


If only Lionel Richie hadn't won so many that should've gone to Prince. lol

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...ds_of_1985

http://www.rockonthenet.c...rammys.htm
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Reply #6 posted 07/22/09 10:44pm

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SUPRMAN said:

Now name the best selling album of 1984.

"Thriller" Michael Jackson.


Some how they skipped right over him. Hmm wonder why.
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Reply #7 posted 07/22/09 10:53pm

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I didn't mess with the other two, but "Purple Rain" blew my young mind. My friend's older sister was a big Prince head, but my friend and I were on MJ's tip. We'd always debate who was better: Prince the Skank vs MJ the Saint. "Purple Rain" changed all that. lol Suddenly, Prince's dark, adult world was too intriguing to deny. I saw the movie 10 times. lol I haven't been right since. lol
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Reply #8 posted 07/22/09 11:02pm

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Thanks for posting this article. 1984 was a defining moment for music and definitely for the 1980s. One defining moment which is often overlooked is Chaka Khan's "I Feel For You" this is the first time that a r&b artist colloborated with a rapper.

I remember following Prince and Madonna. I can remember it like it was yesterday. For instance, I remember my cousin and I rushing over to her friend 's house to see Madonna on American Bandstand (remember that) and being surprised that she was was white. There was so much defining moments in my own life that year that has made me what I am today.There was also so much going on in society, too. One of my favorite movies is from that year - Sixteen Candles.
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Reply #9 posted 07/22/09 11:06pm

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tonyat said:

SUPRMAN said:

Now name the best selling album of 1984.

"Thriller" Michael Jackson.


Some how they skipped right over him. Hmm wonder why.
Thriller came out in 1982 and this article is talking about three albums that came out specifically in 1984.
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Reply #10 posted 07/22/09 11:12pm

SPOOKYGAS

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Not taking this thread seriously, Madonna and Springsteen don't make me laugh!
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Reply #11 posted 07/22/09 11:13pm

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bettybop said:

tonyat said:



Some how they skipped right over him. Hmm wonder why.
Thriller came out in 1982 and this article is talking about three albums that came out specifically in 1984.


HELLO.....GOODBYE!! lol
Prince did an interview with a woman at Record World. They talked about whatever, then he asked her: "Does your pubic hair go up to your navel?" At that moment, we thought maybe we shouldn't encourage him to do interviews.
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Reply #12 posted 07/22/09 11:18pm

tonyat

bettybop said:

tonyat said:



Some how they skipped right over him. Hmm wonder why.
Thriller came out in 1982 and this article is talking about three albums that came out specifically in 1984.


Oh my Bad! I didn't know when it came out. They were still playing it when PR and the rest of those albums came out.
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Reply #13 posted 07/22/09 11:18pm

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bettybop said:

tonyat said:



Some how they skipped right over him. Hmm wonder why.
Thriller came out in 1982 and this article is talking about three albums that came out specifically in 1984.



maybe they just didn't look up the info, but it would have been an interesting note to have included in an article about the seminal pop albums of 1984.

interesting note also that while Born In The USA was released in June of '84, it actually ended up being the top selling album in the US for 1985.

and also that the major life-span of the LAV album was more of a 1985 thing, having been released in Nov. of '84.
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Reply #14 posted 07/22/09 11:21pm

tonyat

I wasn't trying to slight MJ goodness. I was seriously wondering why they skipped over him. As I said I thought that album came out in 84 like the rest.
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Reply #15 posted 07/23/09 1:02am

SoulAlive

bettybop said:

tonyat said:



Some how they skipped right over him. Hmm wonder why.
Thriller came out in 1982 and this article is talking about three albums that came out specifically in 1984.


Yeah,'Thriller' was released in December 1982 but it was one of those albums that "lasted" for a long time.It was still popular during the first half of '84,when the final single (title track) was released.
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Reply #16 posted 07/23/09 1:06am

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Purple Rain 24 weeks @ # 1!!!! biggrin

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Reply #17 posted 07/23/09 1:12am

SoulAlive

Although 1983 is my favorite 'pop music year' of the 80s,1984 was an incredible time,too.So many different things were going on at the same time..

***Prince and Michael were making history

***Madonna was beginning her rise to the top

***Duran Duran,Culture Club,Hall and Oates were on fire!

***The movies 'Breakin' and (the superior)'Beat Street' gave us a glimpse of the breakdancing phenomenom.

***Rap was actually pretty good in these days (Run-DMC)

***By 1984,MTV was now showing alot of black artists.Artists that would have been ignored just a few years ago (The Pointer Sisters,Billy Ocean) were now reaching wide audiences and scoring Top 10 pop hits,thanks to the MTV exposure.


It was such an exciting time that I'll never forget! lol
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Reply #18 posted 07/23/09 1:14am

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in the George Orwell year "1984".. Prince was the biggest star.

Cool biggrin
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Reply #19 posted 07/23/09 9:23am

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tonyat said:

bettybop said:

Thriller came out in 1982 and this article is talking about three albums that came out specifically in 1984.


Oh my Bad! I didn't know when it came out. They were still playing it when PR and the rest of those albums came out.

Although it came out in late 1982. Thriller, in 1984 was still highly popular. That year he went went on tour with his brothers and performed some of the songs.
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Reply #20 posted 07/23/09 11:15am

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tonyat said:

bettybop said:

Thriller came out in 1982 and this article is talking about three albums that came out specifically in 1984.


Oh my Bad! I didn't know when it came out. They were still playing it when PR and the rest of those albums came out.


Yeah it just SEEMS like Thriller was out for eons. The promotion, hysteria went on for 1983 and most of 1984. The Victory Tour only helped that momentum.
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Reply #21 posted 07/23/09 6:39pm

sms130

1984 was a great year! It was beginning of an ERA 4 tha big 3 (Prince, Michael Jackson, and Madonna) of pop music 4 the 80's. People were still trying 2 recover from what Michael Jackson's 'Thriller' album/singles/videos did to the world the year b4 (in 1983), Prince becoming a superstar, and the introduction Madonna. The time in music and in the U.S. was interesting. I mean, VH1 even did a Behind The Music on 1984. The music was great and the timing was great. The Time broke up, the Mplsound took off, The Victory Tour, Hip Hop was beginning 2 come up, the return of Tina Turner, and so much more. That was only just parts of it. I love 1984, it was a great year in music!
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Reply #22 posted 07/24/09 1:01am

SoulAlive

sms130 said:

1984 was a great year! It was beginning of an ERA 4 tha big 3 (Prince, Michael Jackson, and Madonna) of pop music 4 the 80's. People were still trying 2 recover from what Michael Jackson's 'Thriller' album/singles/videos did to the world the year b4 (in 1983), Prince becoming a superstar, and the introduction Madonna. The time in music and in the U.S. was interesting. I mean, VH1 even did a Behind The Music on 1984. The music was great and the timing was great. The Time broke up, the Mplsound took off, The Victory Tour, Hip Hop was beginning 2 come up, the return of Tina Turner, and so much more. That was only just parts of it. I love 1984, it was a great year in music!


It certainly was nod Pop music was so exciting back then! I feel sorry for the younger folks who missed out on all that.
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Reply #23 posted 07/24/09 1:32am

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johnart said:

1984 was THE year!
And the Grammy's for that year (which I think technically would be the 85 Grammy's) is still my fave Grammy show EVER!

Tina Turner, Prince, Chaka, Cyndi, Sheila... cloud9


If only Lionel Richie hadn't won so many that should've gone to Prince. lol


I still to this day cant believe how that is possible disbelief
chill..prince doesnt like men being front row, makes it hard to sing the ballads
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Reply #24 posted 07/24/09 2:22am

Dayclear

Yeah, I remember that year! The younguns don't know what they missed, do they?! biggrin
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Reply #25 posted 07/24/09 2:25am

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MajesticOne89 said:

johnart said:

1984 was THE year!
And the Grammy's for that year (which I think technically would be the 85 Grammy's) is still my fave Grammy show EVER!

Tina Turner, Prince, Chaka, Cyndi, Sheila... cloud9


If only Lionel Richie hadn't won so many that should've gone to Prince. lol


I still to this day cant believe how that is possible disbelief


It's a race thing. wink
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Reply #26 posted 07/24/09 4:46am

SoulAlive

MajesticOne89 said:

johnart said:

1984 was THE year!
And the Grammy's for that year (which I think technically would be the 85 Grammy's) is still my fave Grammy show EVER!

Tina Turner, Prince, Chaka, Cyndi, Sheila... cloud9


If only Lionel Richie hadn't won so many that should've gone to Prince. lol


I still to this day cant believe how that is possible disbelief


Well,to be fair,'Can't Slow Down' is a brilliant album lol During the previous year's Grammys,Lionel lost out to Michael Jackson so I guess the Grammys felt that it was time that they gave Lionel some recognition/awards.

But this just illustrates how much GREAT music we had back then.It was sometimes difficult to decide who should win the awards,lol.
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Reply #27 posted 07/24/09 11:59pm

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bettybop said:

tonyat said:



Some how they skipped right over him. Hmm wonder why.
Thriller came out in 1982 and this article is talking about three albums that came out specifically in 1984.


Understood.
But none of these three were good enough to outsell an album released in 1982 were they?
The author avoids discussing how they rated against 'Thriller.'
Wouldn't that be a standard to measure greatness by?
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Reply #28 posted 07/25/09 1:20am

coolcat

"Woman in red" stevie wonder.

I think it's hugely underrated.
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