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A CELEBRATION: NEWS Continuing on the one album a day discussion of Prince's music we arrive at NEWS. For other albums being discussed thus far visit http://prince.org/msg/7/312438
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I love NEWS. I'm a big fan of Prince's instrumental stuff. I love Xpectation. I love Madhouse. I even enjoy Kamasutra, though Scissors makes me nervous. | |
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I'm not much of a fan of Prince's instrumental albums. Not necessarily because they are instrumental more because I don't think they are very good. Now, a (mostly) instrumental song like the unreleased "U Gotta Shake Something" from 1985 I absolutely love so Prince can make instrumental music that I enjoy. Unfortunately I find that most of his instrumental albums have a "fake" jazz sound to them that I can't get into. I forget exactly what Eric Leeds once said about Prince and jazz but I think it was something along the lines of Prince only having a surface knowledge and appreciation of jazz and therefore the music is not as good as it could be. For me an album like Xpectation is much better than N.E.W.S. because it sounds like a bunch of actual songs with depth and structure rather than made up on the spot improvisations. It seems like the songs on the Xpectation album are much more fully developed and distinctive. To my ears N.E.W.S. largely sounds like aimless drifting, almost like Prince, Eric, John, Rhonda and Renato recorded several hours of spontaneous music and cobbled the best bits together as an album. If you took top level jazz players and attempted something like that the results might be worthwhile but I don't think that Prince is that level of jazz player. I do like to see him stretch and try different things but I did not particularly enjoy the results this time. That does not mean that I think N.E.W.S. was a mistake, quite the contrary. As I said in a previous thread, I think from 2004-2009 he has been playing it a little too safe and, despite the fact that I really enjoy a lot of his recent music, I would love to see him try something outside of his comfort zone. | |
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Total waste of a CD. Ernest L Sewell, IV
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johnart said: I love NEWS. I'm a big fan of Prince's instrumental stuff. I love Xpectation. I love Madhouse. I even enjoy Kamasutra, though Scissors makes me nervous.
It's called Cutz, dingdong. But you're right. That track is a bad haircut. Love, love, love NEWS, though. One of my favorite writing and chilling albums. | |
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ernestsewell said:[quote]Total waste of a CD
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jonylawson said: ernestsewell said: Total waste of a CD
DICK this cd is brillaint-out of any CD i wanted this one to win the grammy this will be looked at in years time very very favourably in his canon It's an insult to any Prince fan. Total shit. Ernest L Sewell, IV
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ernestsewell said: jonylawson said: DICK this cd is brillaint-out of any CD i wanted this one to win the grammy this will be looked at in years time very very favourably in his canon It's an insult to any Prince fan. Total shit. well....it didnt offend me what a strange post newbies should be banned from talking shhhh to those in the musical know lock this fool I think ahead of you, I think instead of you
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ernestsewell said: jonylawson said: DICK this cd is brillaint-out of any CD i wanted this one to win the grammy this will be looked at in years time very very favourably in his canon It's an insult to any Prince fan. Total shit. Why? | |
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jonylawson said: well....it didnt offend me
newbies should be banned from talking shhhh to those in the musical know I'm not newbie, son, and neither is the original poster, most likely. Swa has went through every single Prince CD thus far, and will continue I suspect. N.E.W.S. is a large, steaming pile of ox droppings. You don't have to agree with it, but don't you shit on someone else's Ernest L Sewell, IV
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Genesia said: johnart said: I love NEWS. I'm a big fan of Prince's instrumental stuff. I love Xpectation. I love Madhouse. I even enjoy Kamasutra, though Scissors makes me nervous.
It's called Cutz, dingdong. But you're right. That track is a bad haircut. Love, love, love NEWS, though. One of my favorite writing and chilling albums. LMAO! | |
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Genesia said: johnart said: I love NEWS. I'm a big fan of Prince's instrumental stuff. I love Xpectation. I love Madhouse. I even enjoy Kamasutra, though Scissors makes me nervous.
It's called Cutz, dingdong. But you're right. That track is a bad haircut. Love, love, love NEWS, though. One of my favorite writing and chilling albums. Nice to see you back in the celebrations, and nice to see someone else who likes NEWS. "I'm not human I'm a dove, I'm ur conscience. I am love" | |
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Listened to this the other day for the first time since it was released. I didnt like it much at the time but I really got into it this week.I think it deserves more credit than it gets | |
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ernestsewell said: N.E.W.S. is a large, steaming pile of ox droppings. You don't have to agree with it, but don't you shit on someone else's This is fair enough but you previously said it's an insult to any Prince fan, which is more than what you think, you're speaking for all of us with comments like that!
Anyway, I've never really liked NEWS too much and have probably only listened to it 3 or 4 times. However... Genesia said: Love, love, love NEWS, though. One of my favorite writing and chilling albums.
Surprised I never thought of that before. I write software for a living and usually listen to music but sometimes rock or funk is a little too intense. I've found that the Bria Valente album is quite good as background to work to. With this in mind I should give NEWS another chance. And now for a cup of tea. | |
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ernestsewell said: jonylawson said: DICK this cd is brillaint-out of any CD i wanted this one to win the grammy this will be looked at in years time very very favourably in his canon It's an insult to any Prince fan. Total shit. Hi ho Silver, Its the Bone ranger! I'll freak u 2 the marrow, comin once, comin twice.
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TheEnglishGent said: Genesia said: Love, love, love NEWS, though. One of my favorite writing and chilling albums.
Surprised I never thought of that before. I write software for a living and usually listen to music but sometimes rock or funk is a little too intense. I've found that the Bria Valente album is quite good as background to work to. With this in mind I should give NEWS another chance. When I'm writing (which is what I do for a living), I often find that listening to music with lyrics makes it more difficult. Instrumentals just roll on, keeping one side of my brain occupied while the other writes. NEWS is also great when I'm coming home from an evening rehearsal. It helps me wind down so I can get to sleep sooner when I get home. Anyway...EAST is my favorite track. Swa mentioned the change at the 8-minute mark. That's always been my favorite part of the entire album. For some reason, it reminds me of the Edgar Winter and Deep Purple I listened to when I was in my teens. | |
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NEWS is a great album. Totally fantastic. I just wish I could get a copy of the other Prince instrumental albums:( stop the quinolone toxicity madness. Full info: www.favc.info www.fqresearch.org http://health.groups.yaho...qtoxicity/ | |
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ernestsewell said: jonylawson said: DICK this cd is brillaint-out of any CD i wanted this one to win the grammy this will be looked at in years time very very favourably in his canon It's an insult to any Prince fan. Total shit. well as a poster I think u are total shit and an insult to prince fans. | |
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tricky99 said: well as a poster I think u are total shit and an insult to prince fans.
Here's the deal on that though: I DON'T GIVE A SHIT WHAT YOU THINK OF ME. NEVER HAVE, NEVER WILL. Besides, if you're that big of a Princefagg that you get all butt hurt over someone disliking a CD you like, you probably should stay out of these types of forums all together, cuz you're in for a world of anal pain. Ernest L Sewell, IV
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I wish Prince would record more stuff like N.E.W.S., I was kind of afraid to buy it but I sure didn't regret it. I really love listening to it. | |
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I really like NEWS, but I didnt expect to. I didnt think 4 lenghty instrumental 'jazz' tracks would hold my attention, but its a nice album. A totally different listen than most of his other work. I still listen to it quite often - its good for relaxing | |
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jcurley said: Listened to this the other day for the first time since it was released. I didnt like it much at the time but I really got into it this week.I think it deserves more credit than it gets
Have to love it when you rediscover something you missed first time round. Swa "I'm not human I'm a dove, I'm ur conscience. I am love" | |
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I love NEWS..
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ernestsewell said: N.E.W.S. is a large, steaming pile of ox droppings. You don't have to agree with it, but don't you shit on someone else's
That's a bit harsh, isn't it Ernie? Sleek neat creepin' gangk peepin' | |
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ernestsewell said: jonylawson said: well....it didnt offend me
newbies should be banned from talking shhhh to those in the musical know I'm not newbie, son, and neither is the original poster, most likely. Swa has went through every single Prince CD thus far, and will continue I suspect. N.E.W.S. is a large, steaming pile of ox droppings. You don't have to agree with it, but don't you shit on someone else's stop posting your (stupid) opinion as fact furthermore ; i saw you slagging off Rainbow Children numerous times to my disgust, calling it crap and what not now you may not like it's lyrical content but let me just say if you can't appreciate the musicianship/song writing displayed on there (Last December f.e) you know fuck all about music get your fucking head and ears checked your posts are an insult to sanity [Edited 7/23/09 5:27am] | |
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^ not great , but surely not terrible | |
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rialb said: I'm not much of a fan of Prince's instrumental albums. Not necessarily because they are instrumental more because I don't think they are very good. Now, a (mostly) instrumental song like the unreleased "U Gotta Shake Something" from 1985 I absolutely love so Prince can make instrumental music that I enjoy. Unfortunately I find that most of his instrumental albums have a "fake" jazz sound to them that I can't get into. I forget exactly what Eric Leeds once said about Prince and jazz but I think it was something along the lines of Prince only having a surface knowledge and appreciation of jazz and therefore the music is not as good as it could be. For me an album like Xpectation is much better than N.E.W.S. because it sounds like a bunch of actual songs with depth and structure rather than made up on the spot improvisations. It seems like the songs on the Xpectation album are much more fully developed and distinctive. To my ears N.E.W.S. largely sounds like aimless drifting, almost like Prince, Eric, John, Rhonda and Renato recorded several hours of spontaneous music and cobbled the best bits together as an album. If you took top level jazz players and attempted something like that the results might be worthwhile but I don't think that Prince is that level of jazz player. I do like to see him stretch and try different things but I did not particularly enjoy the results this time. That does not mean that I think N.E.W.S. was a mistake, quite the contrary. As I said in a previous thread, I think from 2004-2009 he has been playing it a little too safe and, despite the fact that I really enjoy a lot of his recent music, I would love to see him try something outside of his comfort zone.
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ernestsewell said: Total waste of a CD.
Yes, disoriented filler. | |
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It's a good sleeping pill though. | |
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