Byron said:

This could be the first video by a black artist on mtv lol



Also, Eddie Grant and the Bus Boys were both played during the first year of MTV. And they were before Prince and MJ.

Edmonton, AB - - If you're happy and you know it your hands, if you're happy and you know it do a

Musical Youth?

Yeah I remember, a sweet song.

just... you can't say Musical Youth had the same impact like MJ & Prince

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They were not before MJ and Prince on MTV.
Yes music videos by Black artist were out there but in 1982 it was a huge stink why MTV was not showing Black artists.

When Prince/MJ broke the barrier a flood of all kinds of Black artists began to emerge.

muleFunk said:

thedance said:

Musical Youth?

Yeah I remember, a sweet song.

just... you can't say Musical Youth had the same impact like MJ & Prince

Byron said:

thedance said:

Musical Youth?

Yeah I remember, a sweet song.

just... you can't say Musical Youth had the same impact like MJ & Prince

yeah, I think the whole "MJ had the impact on MTV" argument is being distorted into "No black artists were being played before MJ", though.

Nice one thedance, I thought the same thing. It kinda sours your emotion when supposedly respected sources, such as the BBC decide to employ the 'revisionist history' in order to increase the impact of their story.

I'm not a big fan of these people running out and buying Michael Jackson albums as if that in some way makes them closer to him. He had for the past ten years release virtually nothing, and certainly had not toured. He was financially broke if the press is to be believed - and where were all these people then?

He may have had the biggest selling album(s) of all time, but how much of that money did he actually see? I don't want to big up Prince, but he does continually ask that question, and gets maligned for it.

I was always under the impression that Billie Jean was the first video by a black artist on MTV but Prince was the first black artist on heavy rotation.

Fuck the funk - it's time to ditch the worn-out Vegas horns fills, pick up the geee-tar and finally ROCK THE MUTHA-FUCKER!! He hinted at this on Chaos, now it's time to step up and fully DELIVER!!

KrystleEyes 22/03/05

what about The Sugarhill Gang?

Fuck the funk - it's time to ditch the worn-out Vegas horns fills, pick up the geee-tar and finally ROCK THE MUTHA-FUCKER!! He hinted at this on Chaos, now it's time to step up and fully DELIVER!!

KrystleEyes 22/03/05

muirdo said:

a little off topic.. Sugar Hill Gang,

I think they "stole" the beat/ bass from a song by CHIC "Good Times"?

Crime pays, it seems, stealing from other people's songs,

hardly this can't be called art - but I think I had this on vinyl 7 inch.

The first real rap song....?

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TheResurrection said:

so

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I've been telling people this, now that the whole "MJ was Jackie Robinson" crap has been on TV regarding him and MTV.

It's like, "Uh...no. Prince was there first in the big time. Michael was bigger, there's no doubt. But Prince did it first and Michael followed."

I <3 Michael. I'll miss him. But damn, let's give The Man the credit he deserves :p
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ernestsewell said:

thedance said:

thedance said:

There are a lot of truths being said here but no one is mentioning the fact that Prince didn't blow up with the song 1999 in 1982. The song that sent Prince to another level in the Pop World was Little Red Corvette, which came out the same month as Billie Jean. Yes, 1999 may have gotten exposure on MTV in 1982 but Michael was already a superstar and because of a name as big as his having issues getting video play on a station like MTV at the time and then once it played on the station & the song scored BIG time, that had to help Prince, who was already getting airplay from the station. I've always believed that the success of BJ helped push LRC to the stratosphere. Plus, 1999 was rereleased later on in 1983 and charted WAY higher the 2nd time around thanks to all that happened earlier in 83. That's just my

Prince.org is a cemetery where folks mourn Prince instead of celebrate him and his music. Last time I checked, Prince isn't dead yet.

purplecam said:

Actually the Sugarhill Gang stuff was NOT sampled. Apparently Nile Rogers from Chic was very impressed they nailed it so well as it was actually played by a resident band and most, if not all, of the raps on Rappers Delight were written by/borrowed from other rappers - listen to the verse that says "Im the C-A-S-A N-O-V-A and the rest is F-L-Y". That was a rap borrowed from Casanova Fly. SHG were essentially an old school rap equivalent of a manufactured boy band.

dseann said:

thedance said:

a little off topic.. Sugar Hill Gang,

I think they "stole" the beat/ bass from a song by CHIC "Good Times"?

Crime pays, it seems, stealing from other people's songs,

hardly this can't be called art - but I think I had this on vinyl 7 inch.

The first real rap song....?

It's called "sampling". Where have you been throughout the history of hip hop?

tecstar said:

maybe this link can help:

http://www.mtv.com/music/...Id=1535819

serk said:

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thedance said:

moussemaker said:

muleFunk said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

Before Eddie Grant's "Electric Avenue" there was this release from 1981-1982 :




Wasn't also "Let's Stay Together" Tina's first video ? I remember her re-introduced to the scene with that clip.
[Edited 7/1/09 6:33am]

thedance said:

serk said:

maybe this link can help:

http://www.mtv.com/music/...Id=1535819

Nice find, thank you for the link,



Prince - headline to 1982.
http://www.mtv.com/music/...Id=1535819



Michael - the headline pic to 1983.
http://www.mtv.com/music/...Id=1535996


so MTV actually confirmes that Prince was on MTV before Michael.

1999 was shown before Billie Jean, Beat It & Thriller.

Both were phenomenal artists, Thriller was a record breaking album in many ways,

but the first major black artist who had a breakthrough on MTV was:

Prince.


[Edited 6/30/09 22:43pm]

Was there any early broadcasting on MTV of 1982-videos from Lionel Richie ("You Are"), or Stevie Wonder ? :