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Reply #30 posted 06/12/09 7:41pm

pplrain

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JayJai said:

Tame said:

Happy Father's day to Prince always...

All I know is that if Prince never has anymore children...Neither will I. cool


WTF woman?! hmm


You know I don't know why the mods keep these types of threads open. This is such a touchy subject with Prince and it is so personal.
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Reply #31 posted 06/12/09 10:26pm

danzakairos

A baby changes everything, I hope that Prince will have a least one child. It is such a blessing, I myself do not have any of my own, but the children I take care of at church are a joy for me to be around. If God wills it for him to have a child or children it will be.....
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Reply #32 posted 06/13/09 9:04am

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..i hope prince finds a good woman who will treasure..cherish and understand..
...having a child is the greatest blessing EVER!!..it is a huge responsibility..

..if i was the baby-mama..NOBODY will see me..NOBODY will touch my stomach..i would hide for like 3yrs...when the child turns 3..i would present him/her 2 the world...

..i has my suspicions on prince's 1st child(GOD BLESS GREG 4EVER)..I MEAN I CAN HAVE PROBLEMS WITH MOTHERS AND FATHERS..but babies..no they are so innocent...
..i think mayte was given the evil-eye..and that someone cursed that baby!!..jealous people do things that are evil..but if that child was cursed..whomever did do it..if they did..will b sorry...
..God tests our faith in many ways..because in the end..He is our TRUE-L-O-V-E..

...I am Alpha and Omega..the beginning and the ending..ssaith the Lord..which is and which was..which is to come..the Almighty..Revelations 1:8..
..mzsexybaby sexy
..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind
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Reply #33 posted 06/13/09 9:17am

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...and when i saw him..i fell at his feet as dead..and he laid his right hand upon me..saying un2 me..Fear Not;I am the first and the last..Revelation 1:17..

..I am he that liveth..and was dead..and behold..i am alive for evermore Amen...and have the keys of hell and of death...Revelation 1:18..

...while the things which thou hast seen and the things which are..and the things which shall be thereafter....Revelation 1:19..

..the mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand..and the seven golden candlesticks...the seven stars are the ANGELS of the seven churches...and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches..Revelation 1:20..

..mzsexybaby'BLESSED IN 7-PILLARS' pray
[Edited 6/13/09 9:20am]
..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind
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Reply #34 posted 06/13/09 9:31am

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pplrain said:

JayJai said:



WTF woman?! hmm


You know I don't know why the mods keep these types of threads open. This is such a touchy subject with Prince and it is so personal.



life is always personal. it's not like this happened yesterday.

better this thread than one about jizz in his walking stick or whether his hair is real.
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Reply #35 posted 06/13/09 9:39am

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2020 said:

What do you think? We all know he suffered a horrible loss with Mayte but do you think he still wants a kid and ever will? Or is it too late?


..Behold..I stand at the door..and knock..if any man hear my voice..and open the door..I will come in 2 him..and will sup with him..and he with me..Revelation 3:20..

...to him that overcometh will I grant 2 sit with me in my throne...even as I also overcame...and am sit down with My Father in his throne...Revelation 3:21..
..mzsexybaby pray
..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind
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Reply #36 posted 06/13/09 11:15am

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I deeply hope for him, not one but many children
We make our own way to heaven everyday
"The only Love there is, is the Love we make"
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Reply #37 posted 06/13/09 11:22am

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ganesh said:

I deeply hope for him, not one but many children



he's 51

the older a man gets the more likely for birth defects. sperm in an old man is still old sperm
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Reply #38 posted 06/13/09 11:32am

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DesireeNevermind said:

ganesh said:

I deeply hope for him, not one but many children



he's 51

the older a man gets the more likely for birth defects. sperm in an old man is still old sperm



But at least he's got sperm, with a quite young woman the melt can be positive..
51 isn't that old, he's less young that's it
We make our own way to heaven everyday
"The only Love there is, is the Love we make"
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Reply #39 posted 06/13/09 11:39am

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ganesh said:

DesireeNevermind said:




he's 51

the older a man gets the more likely for birth defects. sperm in an old man is still old sperm



But at least he's got sperm, with a quite young woman the melt can be positive..
51 isn't that old, he's less young that's it



He's not getting any younger. the longer he waits the more risk of birth defect even with a young woman. same for a young man with older woman. if its what he truly wants then he needs to hurry up and do the deed.
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Reply #40 posted 06/13/09 11:47am

Genesia

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DesireeNevermind said:

ganesh said:

I deeply hope for him, not one but many children



he's 51

the older a man gets the more likely for birth defects. sperm in an old man is still old sperm


That's the only kind that goes with old skin. shrug
We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves.
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Reply #41 posted 06/13/09 12:04pm

zucris

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I have no right to comment on this sad and private circumstance ..
Forever in my life...
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Reply #42 posted 06/13/09 12:12pm

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zucris said:

I have no right to comment on this sad and private circumstance ..



i think u just did falloff
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Reply #43 posted 06/13/09 12:15pm

ThreadBare

What if he has kids and we just don't know about them?
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Reply #44 posted 06/13/09 12:22pm

piccolo7

pplrain said:

JayJai said:



WTF woman?! hmm


You know I don't know why the mods keep these types of threads open. This is such a touchy subject with Prince and it is so personal.




yes you are right this is really way too personal to talk abt these kind of things... people shouldnt be making this thread ...its something tht should not be talked abt,,,
its private and personal ....
confused
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Reply #45 posted 06/13/09 12:24pm

piccolo7

DesireeNevermind said:

ganesh said:

I deeply hope for him, not one but many children



he's 51

the older a man gets the more likely for birth defects. sperm in an old man is still old sperm



tht is not true
l knw some men older than 51 still gain a healthy babies.....
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Reply #46 posted 06/13/09 12:34pm

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For those of you sesitive about the subject and think it should never be discussed it almost seems like you are trying to bring shame to the incident and making it out to be this horrific thing that should be swept under the rug.

consider the following:

Prince broadcasted his expected fatherhood back then making it a public matter, writing songs and putting out videos.


When baby Gregory was on his death bed, Prince lied to the public and tried to make everything okay when he could have just kept quiet


Its been several years and Prince has moved on and is no longer held captive by what happened


Lastly, there may be many a Prince fan who is undergoing or has undergone a similar loss and to say it shouldn't ever be discussed may make it harder on them.


Losing a child is nothing to be ashamed of.
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Reply #47 posted 06/13/09 12:37pm

rbrpm

yes by me! lol
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Reply #48 posted 06/13/09 12:38pm

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piccolo7 said:

pplrain said:



You know I don't know why the mods keep these types of threads open. This is such a touchy subject with Prince and it is so personal.




yes you are right this is really way too personal to talk abt these kind of things... people shouldnt be making this thread ...its something tht should not be talked abt,,,
its private and personal ....
confused

lockdance lockdance lockdance lockdance
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Reply #49 posted 06/13/09 12:39pm

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piccolo7 said:

DesireeNevermind said:




he's 51

the older a man gets the more likely for birth defects. sperm in an old man is still old sperm



tht is not true
l knw some men older than 51 still gain a healthy babies.....



Stastistically it is true. For every old man you know who has a healthy kid (no doubt by a younger woman or even possibly with fertility help) there is another old man who has a child with special needs or short term health problems.


http://www.ivf1.com/male-...fertility/
Older men cause infertility
Couples with fertility problems where the male is over 40 have increased difficulty in conceiving.

We know reproductive health is associated with age. Most studies and findings focus on the female age as the determining factor for a successful, healthy pregnancy. While it is true that most miscarriages are due to chromosomal abnormalities and that this is attributed to the age of a female egg, recent findings suggest that the male age has something to do with infertility and miscarriage rates more than previously thought.

Age and Male Reproduction
Men can reproduce at almost any age because they never stop making sperm. Women, on the other hand, are born with all the eggs they will ever have. This means that the eggs age as the woman ages, which can increase the risk for chromosomal abnormalities in an embryo.

Although the risk for sperm chromosomal abnormalities does not increase as men age, the potential for DNA damage does increase as men age. Sperm are produced from stem cells in the testicles that must keep dividing. In order for the cells to divide, the DNA in these cells must divide as well. Because the DNA is dividing to a larger extent, the chances for a genetic mutation occurring increase over time. Combine this with older females chances for reproductive success and the outcomes for a successful pregnancy are quite low. A study completed in 2002 found that the risk of miscarriage increased in older men but only when the women were also older.


Other Factors affecting male fertility
Other age related factors could contribute to a male’s sperm production and quality. The incidence of vascular diseases, accumulation of toxic substances, and infections all increase with age. Infections actually have been shown to significantly lower sperm counts when compared to men with normal function. Erectile dysfunction could be another cause of male infertility, as this problem also increases with age.
A number of studies have also found an increase in the risk of several types of diseases in children who are born to older men .
Paternal Effect
At a recent conference for the European Society of Human Reproduction (ESHRE) in Barcelona, Spain, Dr. Stephanie Belloc of the Eylau Centre for Assisted Reproduction presented results of a new study regarding the effect of male age on fertility. The study observed a decrease in pregnancy rates and an increase in miscarriage when the father is over 40. For the first time, a strong paternal effect on reproductive outcomes was discovered
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Reply #50 posted 06/13/09 1:32pm

Jakeasaurus

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mzkqueen03 said:

..i guess u have 2 look at it in a biology-sense...
...there are formulas..
..how 2 have a smarter baby..
...the sex..the look..the body..the height..the weight..
..have'in a child is a science..it is in nature..procreation is a gift from God..
...that men that know..whose name alone is JEHOVAH..art the most high over all earth...PSALM 83:18
..mzsexybaby'YOD-HEH-VAV-HEH' pray




your parents should've taken some more science classes...
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Reply #51 posted 06/13/09 2:00pm

piccolo7

DesireeNevermind said:

piccolo7 said:




tht is not true
l knw some men older than 51 still gain a healthy babies.....



Stastistically it is true. For every old man you know who has a healthy kid (no doubt by a younger woman or even possibly with fertility help) there is another old man who has a child with special needs or short term health problems.


http://www.ivf1.com/male-...fertility/
Older men cause infertility
Couples with fertility problems where the male is over 40 have increased difficulty in conceiving.

We know reproductive health is associated with age. Most studies and findings focus on the female age as the determining factor for a successful, healthy pregnancy. While it is true that most miscarriages are due to chromosomal abnormalities and that this is attributed to the age of a female egg, recent findings suggest that the male age has something to do with infertility and miscarriage rates more than previously thought.

Age and Male Reproduction
Men can reproduce at almost any age because they never stop making sperm. Women, on the other hand, are born with all the eggs they will ever have. This means that the eggs age as the woman ages, which can increase the risk for chromosomal abnormalities in an embryo.

Although the risk for sperm chromosomal abnormalities does not increase as men age, the potential for DNA damage does increase as men age. Sperm are produced from stem cells in the testicles that must keep dividing. In order for the cells to divide, the DNA in these cells must divide as well. Because the DNA is dividing to a larger extent, the chances for a genetic mutation occurring increase over time. Combine this with older females chances for reproductive success and the outcomes for a successful pregnancy are quite low. A study completed in 2002 found that the risk of miscarriage increased in older men but only when the women were also older.


Other Factors affecting male fertility
Other age related factors could contribute to a male’s sperm production and quality. The incidence of vascular diseases, accumulation of toxic substances, and infections all increase with age. Infections actually have been shown to significantly lower sperm counts when compared to men with normal function. Erectile dysfunction could be another cause of male infertility, as this problem also increases with age.
A number of studies have also found an increase in the risk of several types of diseases in children who are born to older men .
Paternal Effect
At a recent conference for the European Society of Human Reproduction (ESHRE) in Barcelona, Spain, Dr. Stephanie Belloc of the Eylau Centre for Assisted Reproduction presented results of a new study regarding the effect of male age on fertility. The study observed a decrease in pregnancy rates and an increase in miscarriage when the father is over 40. For the first time, a strong paternal effect on reproductive outcomes was discovered


yes l already know all abt tht ... l work in medical profession ....
sometime tht are not always the case with some people.. it happen to some but some are generally lucky it all depends on the body...
l knew a couple well over 40/50 and they had a healthy child no problems whatsoever..
as l say some are lucky and some are not .....
as l say it all depend on the body ,,,
some may be old but their body is not in other words their body is still young...and is still fertile..
like in the bible u see a passage somewhere a female was over 60 concieve a healthy child by a man of 80...
so its all down to GOD willing.. to give...and to have faith tht miracles do happen...to some people
cool
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Reply #52 posted 06/13/09 2:03pm

pplrain

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DesireeNevermind said:

piccolo7 said:




tht is not true
l knw some men older than 51 still gain a healthy babies.....



Stastistically it is true. For every old man you know who has a healthy kid (no doubt by a younger woman or even possibly with fertility help) there is another old man who has a child with special needs or short term health problems.


http://www.ivf1.com/male-...fertility/
Older men cause infertility
Couples with fertility problems where the male is over 40 have increased difficulty in conceiving.

We know reproductive health is associated with age. Most studies and findings focus on the female age as the determining factor for a successful, healthy pregnancy. While it is true that most miscarriages are due to chromosomal abnormalities and that this is attributed to the age of a female egg, recent findings suggest that the male age has something to do with infertility and miscarriage rates more than previously thought.

Age and Male Reproduction
Men can reproduce at almost any age because they never stop making sperm. Women, on the other hand, are born with all the eggs they will ever have. This means that the eggs age as the woman ages, which can increase the risk for chromosomal abnormalities in an embryo.

Although the risk for sperm chromosomal abnormalities does not increase as men age, the potential for DNA damage does increase as men age. Sperm are produced from stem cells in the testicles that must keep dividing. In order for the cells to divide, the DNA in these cells must divide as well. Because the DNA is dividing to a larger extent, the chances for a genetic mutation occurring increase over time. Combine this with older females chances for reproductive success and the outcomes for a successful pregnancy are quite low. A study completed in 2002 found that the risk of miscarriage increased in older men but only when the women were also older.


Other Factors affecting male fertility
Other age related factors could contribute to a male’s sperm production and quality. The incidence of vascular diseases, accumulation of toxic substances, and infections all increase with age. Infections actually have been shown to significantly lower sperm counts when compared to men with normal function. Erectile dysfunction could be another cause of male infertility, as this problem also increases with age.
A number of studies have also found an increase in the risk of several types of diseases in children who are born to older men .
Paternal Effect
At a recent conference for the European Society of Human Reproduction (ESHRE) in Barcelona, Spain, Dr. Stephanie Belloc of the Eylau Centre for Assisted Reproduction presented results of a new study regarding the effect of male age on fertility. The study observed a decrease in pregnancy rates and an increase in miscarriage when the father is over 40. For the first time, a strong paternal effect on reproductive outcomes was discovered


omg shut up already.... mad
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Reply #53 posted 06/13/09 2:06pm

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mschirmer said:

Prince have a kid? You have to be self-less to have a kid. Prince is all about
me, myself and I.

i have to disagree with u on that one. i think the whole 'me, myself & i' demeanor is just an act. i truly believe that he is self-less & that he feels that what happened in the past with his first attempt at being a dad will repeat itself again.
the good life is one inspired by love and guided by knowledge ~ Bertrand Russel
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Reply #54 posted 06/13/09 2:19pm

piccolo7

pplrain said:

DesireeNevermind said:




Stastistically it is true. For every old man you know who has a healthy kid (no doubt by a younger woman or even possibly with fertility help) there is another old man who has a child with special needs or short term health problems.


http://www.ivf1.com/male-...fertility/
Older men cause infertility
Couples with fertility problems where the male is over 40 have increased difficulty in conceiving.

We know reproductive health is associated with age. Most studies and findings focus on the female age as the determining factor for a successful, healthy pregnancy. While it is true that most miscarriages are due to chromosomal abnormalities and that this is attributed to the age of a female egg, recent findings suggest that the male age has something to do with infertility and miscarriage rates more than previously thought.

Age and Male Reproduction
Men can reproduce at almost any age because they never stop making sperm. Women, on the other hand, are born with all the eggs they will ever have. This means that the eggs age as the woman ages, which can increase the risk for chromosomal abnormalities in an embryo.

Although the risk for sperm chromosomal abnormalities does not increase as men age, the potential for DNA damage does increase as men age. Sperm are produced from stem cells in the testicles that must keep dividing. In order for the cells to divide, the DNA in these cells must divide as well. Because the DNA is dividing to a larger extent, the chances for a genetic mutation occurring increase over time. Combine this with older females chances for reproductive success and the outcomes for a successful pregnancy are quite low. A study completed in 2002 found that the risk of miscarriage increased in older men but only when the women were also older.


Other Factors affecting male fertility
Other age related factors could contribute to a male’s sperm production and quality. The incidence of vascular diseases, accumulation of toxic substances, and infections all increase with age. Infections actually have been shown to significantly lower sperm counts when compared to men with normal function. Erectile dysfunction could be another cause of male infertility, as this problem also increases with age.
A number of studies have also found an increase in the risk of several types of diseases in children who are born to older men .
Paternal Effect
At a recent conference for the European Society of Human Reproduction (ESHRE) in Barcelona, Spain, Dr. Stephanie Belloc of the Eylau Centre for Assisted Reproduction presented results of a new study regarding the effect of male age on fertility. The study observed a decrease in pregnancy rates and an increase in miscarriage when the father is over 40. For the first time, a strong paternal effect on reproductive outcomes was discovered


omg shut up already.... mad


l didnt start this thread
she did !!!!! confused
confused
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Reply #55 posted 06/13/09 2:21pm

Lrya122

ok, this is more depressing than the other thread! eek
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Reply #56 posted 06/13/09 4:03pm

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Tame said:

Happy Father's day to Prince always...

All I know is that if Prince never has anymore children...Neither will I. cool

Wow....really?
A little too obsessed with Prince, eh?
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Reply #57 posted 06/13/09 4:46pm

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piccolo7 said:

pplrain said:



omg shut up already.... mad


l didnt start this thread
she did !!!!! confused
confused



Wrong! I didn't start the thread. rolleyes


Y'all just don't want to accept the fact that Prince isnt 26 anymore. LOL
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Reply #58 posted 06/13/09 6:08pm

Dayclear

Having kids is not all it's cracked up to be, I had 3
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Reply #59 posted 06/13/09 7:41pm

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people are being pretty harsh on this thread. i hope prince does what ever makes him happy. loosing a kid is a horrible thing. i hope. if thats what he wants; he can have a healthy child oneday.
"Sisters and brothers in the purple underground, find peace of mind in the pop sound!"
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