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Week9 Lotusflow3r Sales Billboard 100 1 EMINEM RELAPSE 210,984 -65 608,244 820,400
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A flop or not? "Don't hate the Black, don't hate the White. If you get bitten, just hate the bite." | |
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Marrk said: A flop or not?
Not considering it was only available at Target and many who got it thru Lotusflow3r didn't bother with buying the CDs as well. Visit my place on MySpace
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but on billboard 200 its at 57...down from 55... | |
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Does this count as one cd or as 3 cds?
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How is this a flop? The TRUTH.......only exist in 1 form.
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This is this weeks chart from the Billboard 200.
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Nice to see he beat Kellie Pickler and Steve Martin's banjo album!
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BigDaddyHQ said: Marrk said: A flop or not?
Not considering it was only available at Target and many who got it thru Lotusflow3r didn't bother with buying the CDs as well. If you consider the fact that these are worldwide sales, because a lot of people all over the world bought an import, then I would call it a flop. | |
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really annoyed. He has got his $ and cleared off, regardless of your thoughts on the quality of the music this could easily sell much more. He's shifted 340k units through 1 chain store with comparatively little promotion / effort. Has P really reduced his 'art' to a means of making a quick $?. Oh well, add it to the list of projects that had a tonee of potential but were not well executed. | |
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funkyhead said: really annoyed. He has got his $ and cleared off, regardless of your thoughts on the quality of the music this could easily sell much more. He's shifted 340k units through 1 chain store with comparatively little promotion / effort. Has P really reduced his 'art' to a means of making a quick $?. Oh well, add it to the list of projects that had a tonee of potential but were not well executed.
I think he truly does not care about CD sales... Concerts is where the money is at... | |
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Prince has never cared about the charts. Ever since he hit the web to sell his music his thing has been putting the music in the hands of the people who wantr it. If you think that a record label has that concern then give Q-tip and Van Hunt a call about the project they had shelved for whatever non musical reasoning. If it's all about getting the music into the hands of those who want it then Prince is number one everytime he drops a cd because anyone who wants it can get it via the web, the paper , at Target or sometimes the wreckastow! I've got a new thread and a dildo 4 U. If U don't like the new thread then U can go fuck yourself! | |
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I hate that chart stuff. If Prince doesn't care why do you? | |
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If Prince doesn't care about charts, why did he talk about sales of the album being missing from the count during Tavis' interview? Tavis was basically complimenting Prince's ability to hit no.2 on the charts without the help of a major label. Prince totally shrugged off the compliment and ranted about a portion of the sales being missing from the Soundscan totals, as if it were some sort of conspiracy. If he truly doesn't care about charts, he wouldn't have done this.
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linus4000 said: 4 MARILYN MANSON HIGH END OF LOW 49,043 999 687 49,730
I didn't know there was a new Marilyn Manson album. Is it rocking? Has anybody heard it? I hope it's better than Eat Me, Drink Me. [Edited 6/8/09 8:58am] | |
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Marrk said: A flop or not?
It sure looks like a flop at this point but who cares? It's an inexpensive triple album of so-so songs. As diehard fans we got our hands on material that never should have seen a release date. Tracks that your friends and family will never give a fck about. That's not how the system is supposed to work, but it did and in our favor. Prince is still in position to blow our minds with a new album in the future (assuming he gets his head together). I'm not going to give Prince sht over this. | |
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If u think, getting paid up front regardless of sales is a flop, u have no idea what artist have 2 go thru. This is 100% a success. The TRUTH.......only exist in 1 form.
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Graycap23 said: How is this a flop?
There are people here that will say it was a flop even if it went platinum. www.goldiesparade.co.uk - 3121 | |
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GoldiesParade said: Graycap23 said: How is this a flop?
There are people here that will say it was a flop even if it went platinum. I see..... The TRUTH.......only exist in 1 form.
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scififilmnerd said: linus4000 said: 4 MARILYN MANSON HIGH END OF LOW 49,043 999 687 49,730
I didn't know there was a new Marilyn Manson album. Is it rocking? Has anybody heard it? I hope it's better than Eat Me, Drink Me. [Edited 6/8/09 8:58am] I like it! But i liked "Eat Me, Drink me" as well I think its his best since "Mechanical Animals". I guess i'm probably the only one in the world who feels so Sorry for hijacking - back to topic - Prince that is [Edited 6/8/09 11:56am] | |
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Soulstar77A said: scififilmnerd said: I didn't know there was a new Marilyn Manson album. Is it rocking? Has anybody heard it? I hope it's better than Eat Me, Drink Me. [Edited 6/8/09 8:58am] I like it! But i liked "Eat Me, Drink me" as well I think its his best since "Mechanical Animals". I guess i'm probably the only one in the world who feels so Sorry for hijacking - back to topic - Prince that is [Edited 6/8/09 11:56am] I dont understand all the dismay? The Album is a complete FLOP...sure its negativity but deservedly so.. it wasnt marketed, 1 commercial- 1 place to buy. A new website that is horrible and overpriced to join + FREE T-shirt..LOL! 1 Music Video No single released Jay Leno isnt the ONLY TV show on TV regardless of friendship Thus proves in the end..Prince isnt that popular anymore. Its truely sad,...Music Genius Yes....Businessman No..... GMAN | |
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GMAN2000 said: Soulstar77A said: I like it! But i liked "Eat Me, Drink me" as well I think its his best since "Mechanical Animals". I guess i'm probably the only one in the world who feels so Sorry for hijacking - back to topic - Prince that is [Edited 6/8/09 11:56am] I dont understand all the dismay? The Album is a complete FLOP...sure its negativity but deservedly so.. it wasnt marketed, 1 commercial- 1 place to buy. A new website that is horrible and overpriced to join + FREE T-shirt..LOL! 1 Music Video No single released Jay Leno isnt the ONLY TV show on TV regardless of friendship Thus proves in the end..Prince isnt that popular anymore. Its truely sad,...Music Genius Yes....Businessman No..... GMAN And u believe those things were not known going into this? The TRUTH.......only exist in 1 form.
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ludwig said: BigDaddyHQ said: Not considering it was only available at Target and many who got it thru Lotusflow3r didn't bother with buying the CDs as well. If you consider the fact that these are worldwide sales, because a lot of people all over the world bought an import, then I would call it a flop. ---- How can it be a flop when it is not widely avalible around the world? I honestly wonder where some of you have been the last few years. CD sales are bad for everyone. To see this CD still on the charts with no promotion is pretty good and in addtion I do not think some of you realize that artist are making 4 times the money from these retail deals as they do from ordinary arrangements therefore finanical wise this was not a flop for Prince. | |
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PicassoFace said: If Prince doesn't care about charts, why did he talk about sales of the album being missing from the count during Tavis' interview? Tavis was basically complimenting Prince's ability to hit no.2 on the charts without the help of a major label. Prince totally shrugged off the compliment and ranted about a portion of the sales being missing from the Soundscan totals, as if it were some sort of conspiracy. If he truly doesn't care about charts, he wouldn't have done this.
-- [Edited 6/8/09 10:12am] ----- If he cared that much about how the sales look to the public he would go away and promote the record. Kind of like he did with Musicolgy. Duh Dude has made his money and moved on. | |
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ludwig said: BigDaddyHQ said: Not considering it was only available at Target and many who got it thru Lotusflow3r didn't bother with buying the CDs as well. If you consider the fact that these are worldwide sales, because a lot of people all over the world bought an import, then I would call it a flop. No major label backing, no radio support, limited availability... its done well considering. Not a phenomenal success... but far from a flop. Visit my place on MySpace
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BigDaddyHQ said: It did something like 170k (apprx) first week alone and those numbers did not include any import sales.
Not true. There were a lot offers from american ebay sellers ON DAY #1 when the album was available at Target. Those guys bought their copies at Target and sold them on ebay from the very beginning. And that's where I have my copy from as well (I live in germany). [Edited 6/8/09 15:07pm] | |
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^ hey Ludwig, I can tell a similar story, I also bought a copy from an american guy, who got it from Target... I live in Denmark..... Hello... I'm Come funkateer 'Danceelectric'
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Marrk said: A flop or not?
I think it depends on what metrics you're using. If it's all about the money, then it's not a flop. However, if it's about getting the music out to the maximum number of listeners possible, then that's another story. | |
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audience1 said: Marrk said: A flop or not?
I think it depends on what metrics you're using. If it's all about the money, then it's not a flop. However, if it's about getting the music out to the maximum number of listeners possible, then that's another story. ----- He really had no chance of getting the music out to the maxium of listeners. Since radio does not play independent artist. He could have promoted it more but all in all in made out like a fat rat. | |
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