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Reply #60 posted 06/20/09 7:25am

xenophobia2002

serpan99 said:

I'm going 2 buy the whole set! yay! biggrin


There will also be a European release for all albums (mine sleeved etc), which will be much cheaper btw
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Reply #61 posted 06/20/09 7:46am

love2thenines2
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xenophobia2002 said:

serpan99 said:

I'm going 2 buy the whole set! yay! biggrin


There will also be a European release for all albums (mine sleeved etc), which will be much cheaper btw



Sorry?....Source?

thanx
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Reply #62 posted 06/20/09 7:50am

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Giovanni777 said:


Did U know that Sign O' The Times CD was actually mastered from a cassette version? Seriously.


No it wasn't!

The CD was mastered in the same way as virtually all CDs were for most of
the 80's. Via a digital transfer from the original 1/4 inch Stereo Master onto
U-Matic 3/4 inch tape (which looks like an extra big VHS cassette, which is
probably where the confusion has come from).

But anyway, that's not really the issue with regard to sound quality, the
reason why most early CDs sound flat and harsh compared to their vinyl
versions is because they DID master them from the same source material,
but DIDN'T correct the eq to account for the differences between CD and
vinyl. Original Masters were usually created a lot harsher sounding than
how the finished release was supposed to sound, as engineers knew that
the transfer onto vinyl lost a lot of this, as vinyl tended to mellow out the
sound somewhat. Of course this meant that when the same masters where
then used for CD, this mellowing didn't happen. This, coupled with the fact
that the mastering process for CDs also tended to make things sound a bit
flat meant that early CDs rarely sound as good as their vinyl counterparts.
[Edited 6/20/09 8:02am]
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Reply #63 posted 06/20/09 7:55am

xenophobia2002

love2thenines2003 said:

xenophobia2002 said:



There will also be a European release for all albums (mine sleeved etc), which will be much cheaper btw



Sorry?....Source?

thanx


why ??? It is like it is
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Reply #64 posted 06/20/09 8:33am

love2thenines2
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xenophobia2002 said:

love2thenines2003 said:




Sorry?....Source?

thanx


why ??? It is like it is


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Reply #65 posted 06/20/09 2:57pm

EmeraldSkies

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squirrelgrease said:

EmeraldSkies said:

I caved,and bought a couple of these.They look interesting. nod


Give us a review when you get them. biggrin



You expect me to actually play them? eek lol
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Reply #66 posted 06/20/09 4:37pm

squirrelgrease

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BorisFishpaw said:

Giovanni777 said:


Did U know that Sign O' The Times CD was actually mastered from a cassette version? Seriously.


No it wasn't!

The CD was mastered in the same way as virtually all CDs were for most of
the 80's. Via a digital transfer from the original 1/4 inch Stereo Master onto
U-Matic 3/4 inch tape (which looks like an extra big VHS cassette, which is
probably where the confusion has come from).

But anyway, that's not really the issue with regard to sound quality, the
reason why most early CDs sound flat and harsh compared to their vinyl
versions is because they DID master them from the same source material,
but DIDN'T correct the eq to account for the differences between CD and
vinyl. Original Masters were usually created a lot harsher sounding than
how the finished release was supposed to sound, as engineers knew that
the transfer onto vinyl lost a lot of this, as vinyl tended to mellow out the
sound somewhat. Of course this meant that when the same masters where
then used for CD, this mellowing didn't happen. This, coupled with the fact
that the mastering process for CDs also tended to make things sound a bit
flat meant that early CDs rarely sound as good as their vinyl counterparts.
[Edited 6/20/09 8:02am]


Thanks for clearing that up. I know the u-Matic was originally developed for video (and analog, at that), so it seems that U-Matic was almost a rudimentary digital storage media at best.

Do you know what the sources were for the Girl 6 and Ultimate remasters? Did they go back to the stereo masters, or did they use the U-Matic digital transfers?
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Reply #67 posted 06/20/09 4:38pm

squirrelgrease

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EmeraldSkies said:

squirrelgrease said:



Give us a review when you get them. biggrin



You expect me to actually play them? eek lol



Did you get them? Yes, please. Oh, and pics too. biggrin
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Reply #68 posted 06/20/09 4:39pm

1DirXtion

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I know what these are. I have the same thing from Michael jackson, Cyndi Lauper, Culture Club and Whitney houston. The entire box set goes anywhere from $100 to $200 depending where you buy them
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Reply #69 posted 06/20/09 5:04pm

EmeraldSkies

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squirrelgrease said:

EmeraldSkies said:




You expect me to actually play them? eek lol



Did you get them? Yes, please. Oh, and pics too. biggrin



No they don't get shipped until July,but when I get them I will post pictures. smile
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Reply #70 posted 06/22/09 1:31pm

EmeraldSkies

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I just received a email saying that the release date has been changed,so they will now be shipping on July 15th. sigh
[Edited 6/22/09 13:32pm]
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Reply #71 posted 06/22/09 1:42pm

thedance

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yeah me too, release date is delayed a week.
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Reply #72 posted 06/22/09 1:42pm

Giovanni777

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BorisFishpaw said:

Giovanni777 said:


Did U know that Sign O' The Times CD was actually mastered from a cassette version? Seriously.


No it wasn't!

The CD was mastered in the same way as virtually all CDs were for most of
the 80's. Via a digital transfer from the original 1/4 inch Stereo Master onto
U-Matic 3/4 inch tape (which looks like an extra big VHS cassette, which is
probably where the confusion has come from).

But anyway, that's not really the issue with regard to sound quality, the
reason why most early CDs sound flat and harsh compared to their vinyl
versions is because they DID master them from the same source material,
but DIDN'T correct the eq to account for the differences between CD and
vinyl. Original Masters were usually created a lot harsher sounding than
how the finished release was supposed to sound, as engineers knew that
the transfer onto vinyl lost a lot of this, as vinyl tended to mellow out the
sound somewhat. Of course this meant that when the same masters where
then used for CD, this mellowing didn't happen. This, coupled with the fact
that the mastering process for CDs also tended to make things sound a bit
flat meant that early CDs rarely sound as good as their vinyl counterparts.
[Edited 6/20/09 8:02am]


So U don't agree with what I said previously, HERE?:


Giovanni777 said:
By using a U matic, there had 2 be one, maybe two levels of error correction, which degrades the sound.

Also, the A-D converters back then were laughable compared 2 now. Tons of error correction, and distortion at low levels.


I am also aware of the factor U bring up, but there is no disputing the 2 issues above, when using Umatic tapes.

I'm pretty sure they used the Umatic cassette 4 the CD process, NOT the original master tapes.

~G


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[Edited 6/22/09 13:48pm]
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Reply #73 posted 06/25/09 7:59am

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If these WERE actually remastered, and properly, they would sell well.

Especially if the CD labels were replicas, along with replica sleeve and cover.

DAG. WB/Rhino should do just that!
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Reply #74 posted 06/25/09 8:35am

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It would be even better if WB/Rhino used something like THESE:

http://www.amazon.com/Ver...B00009WO51
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Reply #75 posted 06/25/09 11:33am

squirrelgrease

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Giovanni777 said:

It would be even better if WB/Rhino used something like THESE:

http://www.amazon.com/Ver...B00009WO51


I use those Vinyl Replica CD-Rs for my Prince stuff - love 'em. There's never enough purple ones, though. The downside is that there's hardly any space for writing the info.
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Reply #76 posted 07/05/09 5:25pm

FunkyDissCo

Just saw the first SHM CD on Ebay. For You on presale (release date July 8) for...
317$..... eek
Who was that saying he's gonna buy all of them? lol
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Reply #77 posted 07/05/09 7:16pm

mzsadii

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Well that should put a dent in his econobag
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Reply #78 posted 07/05/09 11:48pm

squirrelgrease

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Well, you can still get them for $25 from here: http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/...key=147611



Here's a less-gougy eBayer:

http://cgi.ebay.com/PRINC...7C294%3A50
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Reply #79 posted 07/07/09 2:50pm

GirlBrother

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I've Googled SHM-CD and they are just regular Red Book CDs, aren't they?

How are they supposed to sound better?
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Reply #80 posted 07/07/09 5:28pm

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GirlBrother said:

I've Googled SHM-CD and they are just regular Red Book CDs, aren't they?

How are they supposed to sound better?


Yes, they are Red Book on the data layer. They won't sound any better than any other Japanese pressing. Period. Unless a proprietary plastic coating is now considered an audio enhancement.
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Reply #81 posted 07/18/09 5:45am

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4 YOUR PLEASURE....SOME PICSĀ§!!


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Reply #82 posted 07/18/09 6:17am

thedance

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^ thanks for the pics, I have got mine as well biggrin

very fast delivery.
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Reply #83 posted 07/18/09 7:28am

emesem

Just ordered Dirty Mind - Lovesexy.

Since I have no idea where my original vinyls are anymore, these were a must buy for me.

Is Lovesexy tracked?
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Reply #84 posted 07/18/09 9:21am

purplehippieon
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thedance said:

^ thanks for the pics, I have got mine as well biggrin

very fast delivery.

How do they sound compared to the original CDs? Are they louder and/or is the sound more detailed? Is the equalization much different from the originals? I'm especially interested about the differences with 1999, Dirty Mind and Sign O' The Times. I'm also curious if the Lovesexy CD is tracked... if it is tracked I might maybe buy that one...
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Reply #85 posted 07/18/09 10:23am

CerpinTaxt

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daaaaamn that SOTT replica is SERIOUS. I would love one of those.
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Reply #86 posted 07/18/09 11:22am

thedance

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emesem said:

Is Lovesexy tracked?


I have just checked.... and NO, unfortunately Lovesexy is 1 track.

sad
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Reply #87 posted 07/18/09 1:42pm

errant

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squirrelgrease said:

Giovanni777 said:

It would be even better if WB/Rhino used something like THESE:

http://www.amazon.com/Ver...B00009WO51


I use those Vinyl Replica CD-Rs for my Prince stuff - love 'em. There's never enough purple ones, though. The downside is that there's hardly any space for writing the info.



used to love these to death, but i always wished they didn't have all that Verbatim logo stuff on them
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Reply #88 posted 07/19/09 6:07am

emesem

thedance said:

emesem said:

Is Lovesexy tracked?


I have just checked.... and NO, unfortunately Lovesexy is 1 track.

sad


Crap. I knew I should have asked first!
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Reply #89 posted 07/19/09 6:15pm

christobole

love2thenines2003 said:

4 YOUR PLEASURE....SOME PICSĀ§!!


[/img][img] [/img][img] [/img][img] [/img][img] [/img]


ahhhhh, these are so beautiful! do you have a pic of "around the world in a day" to hold me over until mine arrive?
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