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Strange/Interesting parts of Tavis Int

Interesting interview, nice to see Prince being more open and friendly and great to see he still has the humour we love him for (the end part).

1) Tavis asks him about record industry but when he answers (around 16:45mins in), he talks about genome and God talk, but Tavis totally lets its drop when he should have asked him to explain. I assume this may have been edited out, but its poor for an interviewer to let such comments stay vague and they should be investigated.

2) He mentions when in England (where I live), he watched the United Nations channel. I am not aware of this channel unless its on satellite, but even so he mentions a lot of talk of the Bible and religion and that the US is too secular. The UK is even more secular than the US in terms of discussing religion in politics, you never hear major politicans mention it here like they do in the US, so in that sense I think he was making a snap judgement as we see the US as being more religious and mentioning God more than us. I'm not saying its better because of that, just us Brits tend to think of Americans as being more not less religious in public life.

3) Far too fawning, even Tavis's video blog said he denied being star struck and then gave lots of reasons why he is (he's a friend, he's a genius etc). Would you get any major Uk interviewer sucking up like that??

4) Tavis looked cross\disappointed when P said he didn't vote for Obama.

5) Said Prince was nice and made him out to be some goodwill ambassador with no mention of the recent shut down of websites and fan struggles which is a major miss. At least Prince had the humility to admit he has a mean side, but Tavis should have asked more about that and why the relationship with fans is often seen as being antagonistic.

Just a few thoughts...
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Reply #1 posted 05/05/09 3:57am

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TheFreakerFantastic said:

The UK is even more secular than the US in terms of discussing religion in politics, you never hear major politicans mention it here like they do in the US, so in that sense I think he was making a snap judgement as we see the US as being more religious and mentioning God more than us.
Agree with this, I see religion as being far more important in US politics.

3) Far too fawning, even Tavis's video blog said he denied being star struck and then gave lots of reasons why he is (he's a friend, he's a genius etc). Would you get any major Uk interviewer sucking up like that??
Jonathan Ross?

5) Said Prince was nice and made him out to be some goodwill ambassador with no mention of the recent shut down of websites and fan struggles which is a major miss. At least Prince had the humility to admit he has a mean side, but Tavis should have asked more about that and why the relationship with fans is often seen as being antagonistic.
I agree that he should have asked about his relationship with fans. However, with Prince being a friend it was never going to be a particularly difficult interview.
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Reply #2 posted 05/05/09 4:00am

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Oh yes not keen on Jonathan Ross at all, but he does take the piss a bit and has fun. I prefer Leno's style to Tavis's as he makes fun more.
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Reply #3 posted 05/05/09 5:04am

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TheFreakerFantastic said:

3) Far too fawning, even Tavis's video blog said he denied being star struck and then gave lots of reasons why he is (he's a friend, he's a genius etc). Would you get any major Uk interviewer sucking up like that??





I've mentioned it before. Tavis was a second off of Prince's lap. Everything that was mildly funny, he just took to the hilt. I just looked at him like dude... if he acts like this now, I wonder if he got some 4" stiletto boots and some ass-out jeans at the crib.
close my eyes, what's it like, what's it like inside your tamborine?
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Reply #4 posted 05/05/09 6:35am

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TheFreakerFantastic said:

Interesting interview, nice to see Prince being more open and friendly and great to see he still has the humour we love him for (the end part).

3) Far too fawning, even Tavis's video blog said he denied being star struck and then gave lots of reasons why he is (he's a friend, he's a genius etc). Would you get any major Uk interviewer sucking up like that??

Just a few thoughts...



I mentioned that to my friend! eek
That giggling was driving me nuts! He was so fammy! batting eyes mushy mad

"Love Hurts.
Your lies, they cut me.
Now your words don't mean a thing.
I don't give a damn if you ever loved me..."

-Cher, "Woman's World"
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Reply #5 posted 05/05/09 6:42am

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TheFreakerFantastic said:

Interesting interview, nice to see Prince being more open and friendly and great to see he still has the humour we love him for (the end part).

1) Tavis asks him about record industry but when he answers (around 16:45mins in), he talks about genome and God talk, but Tavis totally lets its drop when he should have asked him to explain. I assume this may have been edited out, but its poor for an interviewer to let such comments stay vague and they should be investigated.

2) He mentions when in England (where I live), he watched the United Nations channel. I am not aware of this channel unless its on satellite, but even so he mentions a lot of talk of the Bible and religion and that the US is too secular. The UK is even more secular than the US in terms of discussing religion in politics, you never hear major politicans mention it here like they do in the US, so in that sense I think he was making a snap judgement as we see the US as being more religious and mentioning God more than us. I'm not saying its better because of that, just us Brits tend to think of Americans as being more not less religious in public life.

3) Far too fawning, even Tavis's video blog said he denied being star struck and then gave lots of reasons why he is (he's a friend, he's a genius etc). Would you get any major Uk interviewer sucking up like that??

4) Tavis looked cross\disappointed when P said he didn't vote for Obama.

5) Said Prince was nice and made him out to be some goodwill ambassador with no mention of the recent shut down of websites and fan struggles which is a major miss. At least Prince had the humility to admit he has a mean side, but Tavis should have asked more about that and why the relationship with fans is often seen as being antagonistic.

Just a few thoughts...
[Edited 5/5/09 3:58am]



I've only seen bits of the interview but I totally agree with point 2. I thought that was very strange when he said it. He's either misinformed or lying.
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Reply #6 posted 05/05/09 7:24am

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TheFreakerFantastic said:


2) He mentions when in England (where I live), he watched the United Nations channel. I am not aware of this channel unless its on satellite, but even so he mentions a lot of talk of the Bible and religion and that the US is too secular. The UK is even more secular than the US in terms of discussing religion in politics, you never hear major politicans mention it here like they do in the US, so in that sense I think he was making a snap judgement as we see the US as being more religious and mentioning God more than us. I'm not saying its better because of that, just us Brits tend to think of Americans as being more not less religious in public life.


I noticed this too! Its common knowledge that Blair avoided mentioning his faith where possible until after he left office. Unless Prince was talking about Europe as a whole this was quite a mis-reading of the UK situation. Makes you realise what the conversations "up at the house" between Tavis and P are really like...
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Reply #7 posted 05/05/09 7:30am

Dayclear

I can't believe anyone's still talking about this. I've been gone a week and you still haven't moved on. confused
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Reply #8 posted 05/05/09 7:45am

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Dayclear said:

I can't believe anyone's still talking about this. I've been gone a week and you still haven't moved on. confused


A new Lovesexy thread started today.

That was 21 years ago.
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Reply #9 posted 05/05/09 7:51am

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TheFreakerFantastic said:


1) Tavis asks him about record industry but when he answers (around 16:45mins in), he talks about genome and God talk, but Tavis totally lets its drop when he should have asked him to explain. I assume this may have been edited out, but its poor for an interviewer to let such comments stay vague and they should be investigated.

I agree. Prince was getting ahead of himself in what he was saying, I can imagine that threw a lot of people, definately should've asked him to expound on that as it made sense, he just didn't join the dots.



TheFreakerFantastic said:


2) He mentions when in England (where I live), he watched the United Nations channel. I am not aware of this channel unless its on satellite, but even so he mentions a lot of talk of the Bible and religion and that the US is too secular. The UK is even more secular than the US in terms of discussing religion in politics, you never hear major politicans mention it here like they do in the US, so in that sense I think he was making a snap judgement as we see the US as being more religious and mentioning God more than us. I'm not saying its better because of that, just us Brits tend to think of Americans as being more not less religious in public life.

Yeah, he was talking out of his ass on that one.


With regards to Jonathan Ross, I could never see Prince doing a show like that, Jonathan likes to take a pop at his guests and rib them, and I cannot see Prince going along with his kind of humour at all. I could see him doing a Film 2009 kind of sitdown interview just the two of them, but not like the one on his chat show in front of an audience. (I'm no fan of Ross either).



Dayclear said:

I can't believe anyone's still talking about this. I've been gone a week and you still haven't moved on. confused

If you don't like it, stop replying to every thread dismissing it, it's quite simple smile



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Reply #10 posted 05/05/09 8:22am

Close2u

That genome comment just went flat, I was curious what angle he was coming from on that
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Reply #11 posted 05/05/09 9:47am

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djfine said:

Dayclear said:

I can't believe anyone's still talking about this. I've been gone a week and you still haven't moved on. confused


A new Lovesexy thread started today.

That was 21 years ago.


Well said!! I only just saw the interview today and have been away hence its this week. U can analyse things anytime surely.
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Reply #12 posted 05/05/09 10:03am

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TheFreakerFantastic said:

djfine said:



A new Lovesexy thread started today.

That was 21 years ago.


Well said!! I only just saw the interview today and have been away hence its this week. U can analyse things anytime surely.


SHIT lol cool
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Reply #13 posted 05/05/09 11:35am

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I didn't like Tavis's fawning either.

But like some people here have suggested, it may have been an interviewing tactic to butter him up, grease the wheels, so to speak, to get Prince to play nice.

I guess it worked, it seemed to relax Prince somewhat. He admitted his bias against male vocalists, he let out a real laugh at the end. Overall, he seemed looser and more comfortable in his skin than usual.

Tavis did cross him up, though. Especially that question about why Prince isn't on the radio. I winced a little bit, watching Prince squirm his way out of it, trying to save face. If he had just said, "Hell, maybe I'm not relevant anymore," my respect for him would have been renewed.
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Reply #14 posted 05/05/09 12:07pm

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padawan said:

I didn't like Tavis's fawning either.

But like some people here have suggested, it may have been an interviewing tactic to butter him up, grease the wheels, so to speak, to get Prince to play nice.

I guess it worked, it seemed to relax Prince somewhat. He admitted his bias against male vocalists, he let out a real laugh at the end. Overall, he seemed looser and more comfortable in his skin than usual.

Tavis did cross him up, though. Especially that question about why Prince isn't on the radio. I winced a little bit, watching Prince squirm his way out of it, trying to save face. If he had just said, "Hell, maybe I'm not relevant anymore," my respect for him would have been renewed.


Do you mean to say that because someone is on the radio they are relevant? Did you know most radio stations are owned by record companies?
I think Prince for his age and time in the business is very relevant, that is why he is still selling his albums without a record company sucking up his profits. I give him so much credit for taking the harder way out and for trying to be independent.
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Reply #15 posted 05/05/09 12:45pm

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TheFreakerFantastic said:

Interesting interview, nice to see Prince being more open and friendly and great to see he still has the humour we love him for (the end part).

1) Tavis asks him about record industry but when he answers (around 16:45mins in), he talks about genome and God talk, but Tavis totally lets its drop when he should have asked him to explain. I assume this may have been edited out, but its poor for an interviewer to let such comments stay vague and they should be investigated.

2) He mentions when in England (where I live), he watched the United Nations channel. I am not aware of this channel unless its on satellite, but even so he mentions a lot of talk of the Bible and religion and that the US is too secular. The UK is even more secular than the US in terms of discussing religion in politics, you never hear major politicans mention it here like they do in the US, so in that sense I think he was making a snap judgement as we see the US as being more religious and mentioning God more than us. I'm not saying its better because of that, just us Brits tend to think of Americans as being more not less religious in public life.

3) Far too fawning, even Tavis's video blog said he denied being star struck and then gave lots of reasons why he is (he's a friend, he's a genius etc). Would you get any major Uk interviewer sucking up like that??

4) Tavis looked cross\disappointed when P said he didn't vote for Obama.

5) Said Prince was nice and made him out to be some goodwill ambassador with no mention of the recent shut down of websites and fan struggles which is a major miss. At least Prince had the humility to admit he has a mean side, but Tavis should have asked more about that and why the relationship with fans is often seen as being antagonistic.

Just a few thoughts...
[Edited 5/5/09 3:58am]


i'm glad u mentioned this cuz i thought i was having a senior moment..he must have been watching al jazeera or sommink
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Reply #16 posted 05/05/09 12:51pm

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pplrain said:

padawan said:

I didn't like Tavis's fawning either.

But like some people here have suggested, it may have been an interviewing tactic to butter him up, grease the wheels, so to speak, to get Prince to play nice.

I guess it worked, it seemed to relax Prince somewhat. He admitted his bias against male vocalists, he let out a real laugh at the end. Overall, he seemed looser and more comfortable in his skin than usual.

Tavis did cross him up, though. Especially that question about why Prince isn't on the radio. I winced a little bit, watching Prince squirm his way out of it, trying to save face. If he had just said, "Hell, maybe I'm not relevant anymore," my respect for him would have been renewed.


Do you mean to say that because someone is on the radio they are relevant? Did you know most radio stations are owned by record companies?
I think Prince for his age and time in the business is very relevant, that is why he is still selling his albums without a record company sucking up his profits. I give him so much credit for taking the harder way out and for trying to be independent.


No, I'm not arguing whether radio play or lack thereof is a fair measure of an artist's relevance. A lot of really good music doesn't make it to the airwaves.

I'm just saying if Prince had acknowledged the possibility that he's no longer relevant--I'm not saying he is or isn't--it would have been a very candid, disarming answer.

It's natural for an artist to wonder if they're no longer current. It's not a happy thought, but a real one. If Prince had volunteered that morsel of truth, I would have been impressed.
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Reply #17 posted 05/05/09 5:39pm

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Close2u said:

That genome comment just went flat, I was curious what angle he was coming from on that

I thought it was just too above me, didn't know what that meant.
Thought it was just me that didn't understand.
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Reply #18 posted 05/06/09 5:46am

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Dont worry wildgoldenhoney, I don't think anyone knew what he meant as he didn't go into it. I suspect he was going to say that companies should not be allowed to own genome / DNA, which I agree with him on. It is the interviewers job to clarify things for the viewer by asking P to elaborate on it and he did not, i suspect it may have been edited out in the unlikely event he did ask him to clarify.
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Reply #19 posted 05/06/09 6:12am

Close2u

wildgoldenhoney said:

Close2u said:

That genome comment just went flat, I was curious what angle he was coming from on that

I thought it was just too above me, didn't know what that meant.
Thought it was just me that didn't understand.



I have no idea what it was about, just saying it got ignored, must be an edit, I love all ur edits up stairs there, lol
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Reply #20 posted 05/06/09 6:35am

RodeoSchro

I missed Part 1. Did Tavis ask Prince about plans for a tour? If so, what was the answer?
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Reply #21 posted 05/06/09 8:57am

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The interview, both parts, is still available on the PBS website, btw he did not mention a tour.
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