He has never had a White Bass Player?
Why is that?

White Men Can't Thumb.

moussemaker said:

but they can finger right?

badmofo said:

WYH does that have to do with racism? Please review what is racism.

mzsadii said:

he's discriminating

He probably has not yet met a white guy who can play bass and fit into his band that he wants to replace Rhonda or Sonny with...

badmofo said:

They invented fingering. Smell this...

He's not a racist, he's a bassist

Well some African-American accuse Prince of being color struck. They say he doesn't include dark skinned black women in his videos. They also say he refuses to date dark skinned black women. Go to any black message board and if Prince is the subject this comes up. I was on two of them today and this was a topic because of Salma song.

candy2277 said:

He's of mixed heritage, isn't he free to do whatever the hell he wants though?

I don't see why he has to date only black women or only have black women in his videos.

Beauty is indeed in the eye of the beholder.
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If he was a racist, then he wouldn't employ white band members of any kind.

candy2277 said:

(sigh), Prince has had dark-skinned women in his videos, and it has been rumored that he dated darker-skinned women. Don't know how true, since it's really none of our business. I bet most of the people on the two msg boards you were on had no idea he and Salma are friends, like in friendship, and that came from articles posted in the past. I would ignore the negativity concerning the topic on Prince and darker-skinned women, since it's really none of our business who he chooses to date. Doesn't make him a racist either way.
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pplrain said:

Why is it anyone's business who he dates anyway and no one here knows about every woman he slept with, regardless if he exposed them in public or not. It doesn't give him demerits if he did date a darker-skinned woman in his life and it doesn't give him golden wings, if he dates lighter-complected women, nor does it make a difference if he has light or darker-skinned musicians in his band.
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Prince just likes his musicians to be good, I don't think he cares what color they are. As for his women, there's nothing wrong with getting what he likes and he mainly likes women that look like him. Every man has his preferences and there's nothing wrong with that. some like blondes some like brunettes. The truth is they're ALL the same in the dark.
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Les Claypool was busy??

toejam said:

i don't think prince is a hardcore racist but i don't think your if/then really works. lots of black people were able to find work in the south in the early 20th century, and that didn't mean their white bosses weren't racist.

malcolm x said everyone is a racist, and i tend to agree with his point. we all judge people, consciously and unconsciously. it's clear from prince's lyrics from the 1990s forward that his frustration with the persistence of racism in the music industry has tended to slant the way he handles the question of race in his music. he's even taken to using the word "devils" (plural), which has strong historical connotations.

in terms of race, prince has never been able to get a break from anyone. black people have always criticized him for being to white, and white people have always been uneasy with the fact that he's part black. (obviously, i'm making generalizations here.) it's got to be frustrating.

i've heard black people call prince 'high yellow,' so the mixed race thing isn't just coming from confused whites. i dated a light skinned black girl in high school and our friends gave her crap because she was the lightest black person out of our group. (i'm white.) then when i dated a dark skinned black girl the other black kids didn't say much.

naturally, the white kids at my school tried to pick fights with me almost every day because i was a 'n. lover.'

Funny thing in another thread I read once people felt he pushed Mark Brown to the back. I always thought because he tall and it would make it clear how short Prince really was.

stanleylieber said:

if that person's if/then doesn't work, then I don't believe that the original if he wasn't then he'd hire a white bass player works either.

And if everyone's racist (which we may all be!), then this whole conversation is moot.

stanleylieber said:

Why would white folks feel uncomfortable about a musician who is black just because he is a light-skinned Black male? Would they treat him any differently if he was darker? He has two parents that were African-American, don't let the complexion fool you. There is not one African-American born in the U.S. that doesn't have mixed ancestry, and I think that is what most people forget and try to divide us by complexion. Don Cheadle is 13% Caucasian, don't know what ethnicity, but a dna test confirmed on television proved that by Prof., Henry Louis Gates. Even Don was surprised, and look how dark Don Cheadle is? So you can't let complexion fool you.

If apartheid was legal in this country, I would be taken away from two of my siblings and nieces based on skin color, especially my nieces since they are Prince's complexion and often mistaken for having bi-racial parents.

If Prince was Al Green's complexion, you would never see conversations about how black he is turning up on these forums.
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2elijah said:

I'm black with two black parents and same complexion as Prince and I'm often asked "What are you". When I say black, they say are you half.

Black-White-Puerto Rican
Everybody's just a-freakin

candy2277 said:

I could understand that. Today on Tyra Banks show. She had 2 females, who I could have sworn were White women. Turns out they were Black. They were lighter than Prince. My niece goes through that. My mom's father was mixed Native American/Cuban and her mother Black with native ancestry (all born in the Caribbean). All her life, my mother has been mistaken for East Indian and other ethnicities, other than black, despite her father's ancestry, she looks like what society defines as East Indian. She often gets asked if she is from Pakistan. So I understand people mistaking others for different ethnicities. My mom is brown-skin and has had long, beautiful black hair all her life, so it's weird that because of the way she appears to others, they don't think she's Black, due to society's ignorant stereotypical views. I feel sorry for Prince, because I'm sure he has been flooded with that question of his race/ethnicity for years.
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toejam said:

NDRU said:

i agree.

NDRU said:

eh, i think it's a matter of degree. deep down we're all jerks.

toejam said:

True.

2elijah said:

in other threads you have people taking a lot shit about white rock radio not playing his records because he is black. that's what i'm talking about. black folks give a hard time to mixed kids and white folks give a hard time to black people who aren't shucking and jiving. light skinned blacks or overtly mixed race folks get shit from both sides of the racial fence.

stanleylieber said:

I wish you watched Tyra's show today, because she basically said the same thing you said about all races taking crap from each other, assuming each other are from various race/ethnic groups. It's horrible cycle. I see no end to this.

As far as rock stations (mainly white stations) not playing Prince's records. Everytime I go into my local supermarket, even today, there is a light/rock station that plays Prince's music. I believe it's a long island, ny based station, but everytime I go there, a Prince song comes on. Today they played "1999".

I believe most of the white, rock stations mainly play his rock/pop related classics. You probably won't hear "Adore" or "How come you don't call me anymore" on there. I guess it depends on the demographics, but both black and white radio stations need to catch up to 2009, and start playing a mixture instead of one type of his music. Maybe one day that will change. Either way, black and white stations, play his classics and not enough of his new music.
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amazing that this thread has any legs

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

and I start a completely valid one about the new album and it's basically