No way, sorry, went to this tour a few times and the aftershow in NYC, and it cant even come close to his ONA tour in 2002, especially his gig in NYC at the Avery Fisher Hall and then the aftershow at World, plus the bands tightness, sorry, Lovesexy is great, but not even close

haven't been able to sit through one lovesexy main show yet , but enjoy many of the rehearsals . the aftershows are all out of this world though. so many classic performances . sign o the times main shows are my favorite. i could bump those all day

..prince is the modern-amadeus.. UH-HUH! ( jingle)..
..mzsexybaby'para-siempre..que Dios te bendiga'

obsessed said:

diiinnnooo said:

What? you get older by the day? A month from now you'll be
somewhere around 45 or so
and where were you when he did the 02 shows in London??

But I'm sure he'll come again

jazzz said:

i agree with a lot of this. i think that it was the combination of the departure of W&L simultaneous to him hermitting himself away in the brand-new PP with all of it's state-of-the-art toys that led to his creative downfall.

Lovesexy is a completely different animal in every single way (sound, production, lyrics, instrumentation) than what he was doing at his peak and the material released (and unreleased - including the Black Album) that immediately preceded it.

everything is a little too overproduced... there are no more happy accidents....

there's something to be said for the time and money constraints that were in place before he signed that new contract and had his own playground to produce in and suck the life out of every note he recorded.

also, with W&L gone, his main musical sparring partner/influence/inspiration/go-to-guy became Levi, and, well... he's good, but you can definitely tell the difference.

OldFriends4Sale said:

Sometimes I just really miss Prince.

I miss my little Prnce and the attitude he displayed

It certainly was a peak in losing money

It don't know if it was his creative peak but it is definately my favourite live

memory. It probably has a lot to do with nostalgia

For a spectacle though damn, i can still remember the moment the headlights of

the Thunderbird broke through the darkened arena and the engine noise came out

of the speakers
[Edited 3/16/09 2:27am]

I hope in the future I get to see a tape of the "LoveSexy," concert.

obsessed said:

hahaha maybe you never know:P
My parents wouldn't let me fly to London be myself and don't really like Prince, so I couldn't unfortunately go the O2 shows
Now I'm a bit older so it doesn't really matter what they say, I will go anyhow

diiinnnooo said:

That's the spirit!
Grandmamas are much easier to deal with

obsessed said:

Haha, probably so, cuz my parants are really strict when it comes to Prince and his music for some odd reason

eye wish he had bought it to NZ or Oz. But I would love to hop in to a time machine and go back to Flippers Bar in March 1981, that would have been a show or the Wembley Arena in August 1986.

errant said:

I agree 100% with your views

He peaked out with Lovesexy, with SOTT & Lovesexy he was still riding off the vibes he had prior especially with W&L and the Revolution Eric Leeds, people who were in his life for a long time who had his vision basically.

Too many unfinished projects is like being constipated:Dream Factory Camille Project, Crystal Ball, Black Album (which should have been the SOTT follow-up)

I think he was able to still flow in the Purple Creativity is because everyone in the 'new' band was from the previous band and a part of the prince camp for years anyway:Sheila E. Eric Leads Mico & Atlanta Bliss were in the Revolution, Dr Fink of course from the beginning, Cat a person who was a P fan who designed dance moves to Prince's music.

Secluded in PP sulking, people started leaving because of his dark attitude(Susan Rogers Alan Leeds)

We also see/hear less unreleased music from 88/89 and Bside begin to fall off
He knew he made a mistake by disolving the Revolution, Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic, the Line, the Future, Still Would Stand All Time, People Without, If U Let Me Underdress U, and a few other that were released later were created during the Lovesexy period, may created 'on the spot' with the band showed the Purple electricity still flowed

*****

It's just around the corner
It's just around the block
This love that I've been waiting 4
A love solid as rock
A love that reaffirms that we are not alone
A love so bright inside U, it glows

And night and day would run 2gether
And all things would be fine
Still would stand all hate around us
Still would stand all time
Still would stand all time




News is comin' like a dog in heat
He's lookin' 4 soldiers with strong feet
That can dance on whoever can't say His name
God is alive, this is not a game







World full of lovers, city full of good time — Rave!
Don't go undercover, I can get U out of yo mind, come on — Rave!
All U need is a good walk and a brand new position
Then we can spread the real soul, doin' it like a mission — Rave! (Rave)
Ooh

Rave un2 the joy fantastic — Rave!
Everybody rave un2 the joy fantastic — Rave!






The line, line - it's a happy step 2 make
It takes time, time - all is what it takes
The line, line - and soon your life is so much better
The water's so much better on the other side (Cross the line)


July 9th 1988 at Les Baines Douches club in Paris rocking the Black cloud & the Kiss jacket

I've seen the future and it will be
I've seen the future and it works
And if there's life after, we will see
Don't go out like a jerk
[Edited 3/18/09 6:57am]
[Edited 3/18/09 7:26am]

This thing we got - it's alive!
It seems 2 transcend the physical
One touch and I'm satisfied
Must be a dream it's so magical







Between white and black, night and day
Black night seemed like the only way
So I danced
Music late, nothing great
No way 2 differentiate
I took a chance







This feeling's so good in every single way
I want it morning, noon and night of every day
And if by chance I cannot have it - I can't say
But with it I know heaven's just a kiss away, kiss away





"In every man's life there will be a hang-up
A whirlwind designed 2 slow U down
It cuts like a knife and tries 2 get in U
This Spooky Electric sound
Give up if U want 2 and all is lost
Spooky Electric will be your boss"
[Edited 3/18/09 6:43am]

This was one of my favorite aftershows

Just My Imagination Still Would Stand All Time really brought a nice melody flow throught the show

Grösse Freiheit 36 Hamburg,Germany 8.31.1988
1. Just My Imagination
2. Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic
recorded summer 1988 @ Paisley Park rel.1999
3. Girls & Boys
4. Venus de Milo
5. Starfish & Coffee
6. Raspberry Beret
7. People Without
8. Condition of the Heart
9. Still Would Stand All Time
created 1988 released on Graffiti Bridge 1991
10. Strange Relationship
11. A Love Bizarre
12. I'll Take U There

Prince's Resurrection
Prince opens his Lovesexy '88 Tour in Paris and proves he can still rock hard. But is His Purple Highness hearing the call of a higher consciousness?

BY DAVID WILD

"I DIG YOU, and you dig me," Prince told a cheering crowd of 17,000 Parisians at the Palais Omnisport Bercy toward the end of one of the extraordinary shows that opened his Lovesexy '88 Tour. "And together we'll dig him to death. Thank you, Jesus." Pointing his guitar meaningfully toward the heavens, or at least toward the painted clouds that hung overhead, Prince then ripped into "Purple Rain," offering one of his most divinely inspired solos of the evening.

Prince has long featured a tantalizing mix of the sacred and the secular -- even the sleazy -- in his musical sermons on the mount. But in Paris he gave every indication of having gone trough a genuine spiritual conversion. In a characteristically veiled autobiographical essay included in the Lovesexy '88 Tour program, Prince offers a parable that apparently explains his decision to release Lovesexy instead of the X-rated Black Album. Prince writes of "a boy named Camille" who lets his dark side, Spooky Electric, create "something evil" -- the Black Album. Spooky Electric, Prince explains, must die in those who desire "Lovesexy -- the feeling you get when u fall in love, not with a girl or boy but with the heavens above."

Whether or not it is meant as a religious revival show, the Lovesexy '88 Tour is hardly your average tent show. Prince has spent nearly $2 million mounting the world tour, which is scheduled to hit the States this fall. It will be Prince's first American tour since 1985.

Always a master of the grand gesture, Prince makes a dramatic entrance for the show in a white 1967 Thunderbird rigged up to take a quick spin around the tri-level, seventy-by-eighty-foot stage -- complete with swing set and basketball hoop -- set up in the center of the hall. Prince and his eight-piece band -- drummer extraordinaire Sheila E., longtime keyboardist Dr. Fink, guitarist Miko Weaver, bassist Levi Seacer, Jr., singer and sensual presence Cat, keyboardist and singer Boni Boyer and horn players Eric Leeds and Atlanta Bliss -- are in constant motion during the show, which is presented in the round under a complex light show.

Nearly three hours long, the show is equally ambitious musically. In the first half, Prince openly confronts his past in what at times seems like the summer's real dirty-dancing tour: starting with "Erotic City," Prince runs through a set heavy with some of is most wonderfully purple material: "Sister;" "I Wanna Be Your Lover;" "Jack U Off;" the Black Album's funky immorality play, "Bob George;" and even "Head" (with Cat gamely performing said act on a microphone held between Prince's legs).

The most inspired moments of the first half of the Paris shows came during Dirty Mind's "When You Were Mine," which Prince has brilliantly reworked as a rambling midtempo rocker that would sound out of place on a John Cougar Mellencamp album. And the set-closing "Anna Stesia" was given a powerful treatment, with Prince passionately singing the "Love is God/God is love/Boys and girls love God above" riff as a hydraulic lift took him and his piano toward the rafters.

The second set -- which was played out on a less cluttered stage decorated with giant fake flowers -- featured a number of songs with a higher calling, including "The Cross" and "I Wish U Heaven," as well as "Kiss," "1999," "Purple Rain" and a silkily soulful "When 2 R in Love." In a few shows, Prince also added two fascinating new numbers, titled "God Is Alive" and "Blues in C."

As the shows went on, Prince became increasingly direct about his intentions. "The first half, I gave it to you because you were expecting it," he said during the third night in Paris. "The second half is what it's all about. It's about how we all dig each other and him."

Seemingly in good spirits, the normally reclusive rocker attended a private party after the first show, where he shyly expressed satisfaction with the performance and said this tour would definitely make it to America. "I'm coming," he said, "I'm looking forward to that." And at 4:20 a.m. -- more than four hours after the first show ended -- Prince and his band took over the tiny stage of Bains Douches, a chic Paris club, for a brilliant hour-long show that featured riveting versions of "Forever in My Life" and "Strange Relationship" and a medley of "Housequake" and James Brown's "Cold Sweat." Midway through the set, Mavis Staples (who recently completed a record for Prince's Paisley Park label) joined Prince and the band for a soulful version of "I'll Take You There."

God knows, Prince has had his disappointments at the box office and on the charts since Purple Rain. But if the Paris shows are any indication, all Prince has to do to turn things around is hit the road over here. After all, a Prince concert has always been a religious experience.

ROLLING STONE, AUGUST 25TH, 1988

Anyone have the picture like this but with Prince snarling?

And what I should have said(what I usually mean when I refer to a band) is saying it was made during that particular time with either the whole band down to 1 individual.

Purple Soldiers help inform where there is misinformation

From my understanding

1.) Girl Power was made during the Lovesexy period 4 Sheila E
Sessions began in late 1987 for Sheila E.'s fourth album with
Prince, with this track being included. The album was scrapped when
Sheila left Paisley Park in 1989. Sheila provides the vocals and
plays percussion, Boni Boyer on organ, while Prince plays guitar on
this number
2.) Make Yo Momma Happy during the SOTT period
3.) Rave(Un2 the Joy Fantastic) during the Lovesexy period(performed at an aftershow) it was already made an Prince wanted presented it for the Batman Soundtrack, replaced by Party Man
4.) The Line is listed as being made in 88 (Lovesexy)The Line poem was made by Ingrid Chavez and played during the Lovesexy Tour 2nd half.
The Line With Boni Boyer 7:51
The Line (Reprise) Boni Boyer sings Precious Lord 1:03
This song was recorded with the Lovesexy tour band in late 1987. Prince wrote the song in response to a poem by Ingrid Chavez called "The Line." It is a sparse, monotonous bass-driven rock number with prominent vocals by Sheila E. and Boni Boyer. The song borrows some music and lyrics from "Take My Hand, Precious Lord" (by Thomas A. Dorsey). Toward the end, a new dance called "The Kangaroo" is introduced. The theme of "crossing the line" was used in the Lovesexy shows.
5.) I was told this and the sound is just the same that the Future was made at the same time.
6.)God is Alive was made during the Lovesexy period but was performed during the a Lovesexy Aftershow, Mavis Staples added her vocals later
7.) Joy In Repetition was also performed during the Lovesexy aftershows
Joy In Repetition: Recorded and mixed by Susan Rogers at Sunset Sound, Los Angeles. We all know Susan was gone after Lovesexy
8.)People Without
9.) & Still Would Stand All Time were performed with the Lovesexy band at the same aftershow

see reply #47 in this thread

10) Pink Cashmere was like Rave was inspired by Anna Fantastic, she appeared in the Party Man video but had left Prince prior to Graffiti Bridge... that one was either record during the Lovesexy period into Batman, he started (seeing her during the SOTT period) Its credited as being recorded June 1988 smack in the middle of the Lovesexy(era)tour

Pink Cashmere 1988 outtake missing Clare Fischer strings 6:02
Pink Cashmere '93 Unreleased reggae-sounding remix from aborted
Pope 12-inch lp 6:06


11.) Rebirth of the Flesh was either the Revolution or preSOTT band

A lot of the music made for Graffiti Bridge was not original for that period. Tick Tick Bang made during Dirty Mind/Controversy We Can Funk(the Revolution/Dream Factory) Melody Cool(1987)
We Can Funk #1 (1986)
We Can Funk #2 (1989)
We Can Funk #3 (1989) 9:59

Sheila E was away from the Prince camp by the time this movie came out
(I believe she had a collapsed lung at that time) yet Sheila is credited as performing drums & vocals

Graffiti Bridge(song): Featuring Mavis Staples and Tevin Campbell
Backing voice and Bass by Levi Seacer Jr.
Backing voice and Organ by Boni Boyer
Backing voice and Drums by Sheila E.
the title track was updated from the 1987 recording, as well as Elephants & Flowers and The Latest Fashion (later given to The Time)

are credited as well
Eric Leeds - Saxophone
Atlanta Bliss - Trumpet
(no mention of the Dr and you know he was in there)


You said: Um, no. The only one of those songs to feature the SOTT/Lovesexy band is The Line.
And I believe I've proven my facts (as close as any of us can)I have a few Lovesexy Shows(same band and SOTT) with those songs performed. Have I refuted your statement?

Acknowledge Me was intended for the Gold experience, yes he sampled Boni's voice yet he sampled from the Line & All My Dreams, so he could have easily recorded it during the SOTT/Lovesexy period

I'm adding We Got The Power & The Voice Inside to the list since I recently got a hold of the original outtake(s) (recorded during the Lovesexy Tour)

TwiliteKid said:

Um, no. The only one of those songs to feature the SOTT/Lovesexy band is The Line. Some of them may be from the same era, but that doesn't mean they had anything to do with them. You're particularly far off on Acknowledge Me, which dates from 93. The Bonnie wail at the beginning is a sample. She was long gone by then.[/quote]
[Edited 4/3/09 18:17pm]
[Edited 4/3/09 18:20pm]

tyka says all his good stuff was written by their dad.

OldFriends4Sale said:

there are some errors up there. per nilsen worked really hard to actually get documentation on all this '80s stuff. recording dates are listed in his 'dmsr' book.

stanleylieber said:

Well don't just say that, help out, what/where are the errors

I've read the book as well as The Rise & Fall of Prince, they both have some stuff wrong too

But anyway, share your info so we can compare

OldFriends4Sale said:

ugh you're gonna make me drag out the book.

off the top of my head:

prince was already thinking about a sequel to 'purple rain' even before the movie came out. 'we can fuck' (as it was then called) was tracked in '83 or '84, most likely around the same time as 'erotic city.' a demo is floating around that sounds astonishingly similar to the version released on 'graffiti bridge' (although lacking the george clinton sections, it's a fair guess that he might have been thinking about clinton while working up this track). i have wondered for a long time if some elements of the '84 vocals were used in the released version of the song. if you listen closely to prince's verses, the singing style sounds (to me) more like the way he sang back in '84-'86. fuller. more lower register range.

i believe 'make yo mama happy' was made during the extremely prolific period after 'parade' but before the revolution was disbanded. (i could be misremembering this one but i think that's right.) wendy and lisa have said a few times that they were just cranking out tunes, and nobody realized they were working on 'dream factory' or any other album. they were just making tons of songs and then later some of them were assembled into various album configurations.

'joy in repetition' is from '86 and the released version is virtually unchanged from the original. it was slated for inclusion on the original 'crystal ball.' 'question of u' was also tracked around this time, although prince did tinker with a bit before settling on the version that was finally released on 'graffiti bridge.'

'graffiti bridge' (original version) and 'the line' are supposed to be from '87. prince was apparently tinkering with the 'gb' movie concept around this time as well. 'superfunkycalifragisexy' was also apparently originally created for the 'the dawn'/'graffiti bridge' broadway play/musical/movie.

'the future,' 'god is alive' (there exists an audience recording of the lovesexy show performed the same night mavis staples laid down her vocal on this track in london's olympic studios; she guested on stage at that show and they sang a few lines from it), 'pink cashmere,' 'still would stand all time,' 'rave unto the joy fantastic,' 'elephants and flowers,' 'electric chair,' 'anna waiting,' 'trust,' and many others are supposed to have been recorded in '88 for the 'rave unto the joy fantastic' album. some of them appear on this tracklist in prince's handwriting:



apparently prince was working on this and what would become 'graffiti bridge' at the same time throughout '88, and would move songs back and forth between the albums, so it's a bit hazy. apparently, no final tracklist for 'rave unto' was ever compiled. prince got distracted by the batman movie and tried to use some of the 'rave' songs for it but most were rejected.

someone posted either here or on the ppml back in '95 that cat glover told them prince was working on '319' when she visited him in the studio in 1989.

i'm pretty sure people have posted details on the 1993 recording of 'acknowledge me,' although it is not listed in any of the books i own. my understanding is that quite a few of the songs that eventually ended up on 'come' and 'the gold experience' were first recorded in early 1993 (a month or two before 'the undertaker' was taped), after prince returned from a holiday in puerto rico. he had early versions of at least 'come' (and possibly both albums) ready for release before the end of 1993. the rest of that particular story is infamously well known.

i'll dig out my 'dmsr' book later and check the recording dates. i realize per probably made some mistakes. i'm just saying, why argue when we have good research to work from?

stanleylieber said:

brother, you and I are on the same lines,
Of course some tracks such as We Can Fuck(1999 sessions) became We Can Funk(Dream Factory sessions)

But everything else was very much similar 2 what I said.

see, my memory is off in several places.

the following is by no means a complete list, but i'm including some tracks you didn't list just for context. the revolution was very much a part of the sound that hung around all the way until 'graffiti bridge.'

from 'dmsr' by per nilsen:

Erotic City - 30 december, 1983
We Can Fuck - 31 december, 1983
The Question Of U - late july, 1985
Power Fantastic - 19 march, 1986
Databank - 17 june, 1986 (for 'the dawn' musical?)
Can't Stop This Feeling I Got - 17 june, 1986 (for 'the dawn' musical?)
We Can Funk - 17 june, 1986 (this is the slow version)(for 'the dawn' musical?)
Joy In Repetition - 17 july, 1986
Soul Psychodelicide - 22 july, 1986
Make Yo Mamma Happy - 8 august, 1986
It's Gonna Be A Beautiful Night - 25 august, 1986
Coco Boys - 25 august, 1986 (for 'the dawn' musical?)

all of the '86 stuff above was recorded either alone by prince or with the revolution before they were disbanded.

below starts the period immediately after he disbanded the revolution.

Crucial - 13 september, 1986 (for 'the dawn' musical?)
Coco Boys - 14 september, 1986 (a different version?)(for 'the dawn' musical?)
Superfunkycalifragisexy - september, 1986 (for 'the dawn' musical?)
Rebirth Of The Flesh - 28 october, 1986

the following are songs associated with the continuing, on-again, off-again 'graffiti bridge' project.

Melody Cool - july, 1987
Graffiti Bridge - july, 1987
The Grand Progression - autumn, 1987 (michael bland said this was the first song he worked on, but that would have been in '89, so this '87 version must be more primitive tracking or an entirely different recording)
Ruthie Washington Jet Blues - 15 september, 1987
Beat Town - 30 september, 1987
When 2 R In Love - october, 1987
Take This Beat - autumn/winter 1987

1 december, 1987 was 'blue tuesday.' prince's ecstasy trip that lead to the shelving of 'the black album' and the creation of 'lovesexy.' (which you wrote about here. it's interesting that prince worked on 'graffiti bridge' for so long -- both before and after his self-described spiritual transformation.

Eye Know - 11 december, 1987
Positivity - 11 december, 1987 (first version)
Lovesexy - 14 december, 1987 (first version)
Dance On - 16 december, 1987
Glam Slam - december, 1987
Scarlet Pussy - december, 1987
Latino Barbie Doll - december, 1987
The Line - 22 december, 1987
Alphabet St. - 30 december, 1987

that's where 'dmsr' by per nilsen cuts off. the rest is sourced from princeinfo.net.

Lovesexy - 29 january, 1988 (album version)
I Wish U Heaven - 31 january, 1988 (second version)
The Max - 10 february, 1988 (first version)
Positivity - april 2, 1988 (album version)
Fuchsia Light - april 15, 1988
Electric Chair - 6 june, 1988
God Is Alive - 6 june, 1988 (initial tracking)
Rave Unto The Joy Fantastic - 6 june, 1988 (first version)
Pink Cashmere - 9 june, 1988 (first version)
Pink Cashmere - 9 june, 1988 (second version)
Pink Cashmere - 9 june, 1988 (third version)
Rave Unto The Joy Fantastic - 24 july, 1988 (second version)
God Is Alive - 27 july, 1988 (mavis vocals at olympic studios, london)
People Without - 19 august, 1988 (cat glover said it was basically an adlib)
If U Let Me Undress U - 21 august, 1988
I Wish U Heaven (pt. 1, 2, 3) - 24 august, 1988
Big House - 4 october, 1988
Still Would Stand All Time - 6 october, 1988 (first version)
Elephants And Flowers - 6 october, 1988 (first version)
If I Had A Harem - 6 october, 1988 (studio version)
We Got The Power - 15 october, 1988
Scandalous - 17 october, 1988
XYZ - 4 november, 1988
Cookie Jar - 12 november, 1988
Girl Power - 18 november, 1988
Love Song - 18 november, 1988 (the madonna collaboration)
Like A Prayer - 18 november, 1988 (the madonna collaboration)
Lolly Lolly (According To Prince) - 30 november, 1988 (remix of wendy & lisa song)
Xtra Loveable - 1988 (remix)
Moonbeam Levels - 1988 (second version)
Eye No - 1988 (remix)
A Man Called Jesus - 21 december, 1988
Anna Waiting - 31 december, 1988
Fantasia Erotica - 31 december, 1988
Good Judy Girlfriend - 31 december, 1988

there is no info on princeinfo.net about the remaining two tracks.

The Future
Acknowledge Me

per, please write a book covering the second decade. i would like to read it. thank you.

stanleylieber said:

Yeah I read about the idea of what would be Graffiti Bridge(the movie back in late 86/87

The Future is the same musical feel as The Line
Eye No is basically Ball from the Dream Factory just the words have changed.

Your list has still would stand all time (I guess a early studio cut)10.6.1988
but it was performed(not in its fullness) during a Germany Aftershow 8.31.1988

I remember at that 1st Avenue Live Rehearsal show for SOTT during Strange Relationship he introduced Superfunkicalifragisexy the 3 or 4 lines before he said Squirrel Meat

I believe even the conversation part of Temptation(ATWIAD) was included in the Purple Rain tour.

Thanks 4 sharing your list.

actually, looking at princeinfo.net now for the earlier years and they seem to have more info than was in 'dmsr.'

anyway!