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Prince Studying Musical Affects on the Spirit.

Prince Studying Musical Affects on the Spirit.

~We know that lyrics can easily be uplifting by what the words are expressing.
~We know that some songs can have a happy sound and the lyrics can be indifferent to the way the music moves you.
~We know that typically a blues song rides on that lonely rhythm concept.

I do believe that Prince has intentions 2 open up the energy centers within the spirit.

If U take into consideration that Hindu, "OHMmm" Bell that resonates and opens the solar plexus energy cener, and U have come 2 understand how music does affect and alert different aspects of yourself, I believe we will be comprehending a little bit of Prince's musical intentions even before his new albums come out.

We can use this thread as a way of discussing past songs and how they have made us feel.
We can try 2 learn together as a group, what tones or pitches or sequences of notes have had a spiritual awareness come with listening to something in particular.

I believe this is a unique and difficult subject to comprehend thoroughly. It would take us all some exploration with concentrating on music to become learned enough to be selective as listeners, and it would most likely be easier 4 Prince 2 manipulate music in this fashion for his listenters, being a musician.
I do believe that you do not have to be able to sing well, to be a professional listesner and worthy of contributing to this endless study, perhaps, science.

Any thoughts?
[Edited 1/10/09 14:23pm]
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Reply #1 posted 01/10/09 2:26pm

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! u do need to Sing well ..2 effects r man made but comming from one who tears her kids gifts up i understand
dont believe in politics of chosen fools and hypocrites
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Reply #2 posted 01/10/09 2:32pm

Teacher

Any thoughts? Yeah, listen to "Papa" and see if you hear things...
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Reply #3 posted 01/10/09 2:33pm

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obsession-
Moore, Forward and Buck believe that rejection is the trigger of obsessive love - also known as love addiction or relationship addiction. They state four conditions to help identify it, namely, a painful and all-consuming preoccupation with a real or wished-for lover, an insatiable longing either to possess or be possessed by the target of their obsession, rejection by or physical and/or emotional unavailability of their target, and being driven to behave in self-defeating ways by this rejection or unavailability.
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Reply #4 posted 01/10/09 2:43pm

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Teacher said:


sweet!
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Reply #6 posted 01/10/09 2:47pm

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If the song "Crazy Love" by Luther Vandross strikes a heart chord, maybe U will be as understanding as I am about the way music affects a person in general.

If you know U can't sing, than U can obviously hear it...
If you understand that every set of vocal chords does not achieve the same pleasant sound as some singers, than U can understand that certain people are blessed with that ability and continued practice.
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Reply #7 posted 01/10/09 3:57pm

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2 get the ball rolling...

Take the opening ring from "Starfish and Coffee," as an example...
That ring and the tone of the song is higher than the solar plexus and almost 2 the heart chakra, in my perception, and even the whistling at the songs end.

With "Slow Love," that follows "S&C" on "Sign 'o' the times. It feels more of a rise and fall between the spleen and the throat, however when the chime comes into the song...U can feel that it's at the heart chakra.

If u wanna get color coordinated, it's in the green.
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Reply #8 posted 01/10/09 4:01pm

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DrThorazine said:

obsession-
Moore, Forward and Buck believe that rejection is the trigger of obsessive love - also known as love addiction or relationship addiction. They state four conditions to help identify it, namely, a painful and all-consuming preoccupation with a real or wished-for lover, an insatiable longing either to possess or be possessed by the target of their obsession, rejection by or physical and/or emotional unavailability of their target, and being driven to behave in self-defeating ways by this rejection or unavailability.



Just so U comprehend what it is that U are saying...
If more married couples were obsessed with their partners the divorce statistics probably wouldn't be so high and children might grow up happier...good luck 2 U and U're average relationships.
"The Lion Sleeps Tonight...
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Reply #9 posted 01/10/09 4:15pm

funksterr

That sure sounds like a contradiction to Jehovah's Witness beliefs.
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Reply #10 posted 01/10/09 4:43pm

ReginaCarman

Tame said:

Prince Studying Musical Affects on the Spirit.

~We know that lyrics can easily be uplifting by what the words are expressing.
~We know that some songs can have a happy sound and the lyrics can be indifferent to the way the music moves you.
~We know that typically a blues song rides on that lonely rhythm concept.

I do believe that Prince has intentions 2 open up the energy centers within the spirit.

If U take into consideration that Hindu, "OHMmm" Bell that resonates and opens the solar plexus energy cener, and U have come 2 understand how music does affect and alert different aspects of yourself, I believe we will be comprehending a little bit of Prince's musical intentions even before his new albums come out.

We can use this thread as a way of discussing past songs and how they have made us feel.
We can try 2 learn together as a group, what tones or pitches or sequences of notes have had a spiritual awareness come with listening to something in particular.

I believe this is a unique and difficult subject to comprehend thoroughly. It would take us all some exploration with concentrating on music to become learned enough to be selective as listeners, and it would most likely be easier 4 Prince 2 manipulate music in this fashion for his listenters, being a musician.
I do believe that you do not have to be able to sing well, to be a professional listesner and worthy of contributing to this endless study, perhaps, science.

Any thoughts?
[Edited 1/10/09 14:23pm]


Hi Tame, i was wondering where u referenced some of this information. Because the Vowel sound "AUM" is not unique to the Hindus and is referenced in Ancient Egyption History. i was wondering if u could provide some names of reputable books on what u stated above. i am very interested in learning more by my own research. Thank u ahead of time. Regina
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Reply #11 posted 01/10/09 4:56pm

ReginaCarman

Tame said:

DrThorazine said:

obsession-
Moore, Forward and Buck believe that rejection is the trigger of obsessive love - also known as love addiction or relationship addiction. They state four conditions to help identify it, namely, a painful and all-consuming preoccupation with a real or wished-for lover, an insatiable longing either to possess or be possessed by the target of their obsession, rejection by or physical and/or emotional unavailability of their target, and being driven to behave in self-defeating ways by this rejection or unavailability.



Just so U comprehend what it is that U are saying...
If more married couples were obsessed with their partners the divorce statistics probably wouldn't be so high and children might grow up happier...good luck 2 U and U're average relationships.


Just don't forget to take into account the large number of spousal abuse that ranges from emotional and psychological to physical abuse. And also many abusers try to control with money. It is far better to get a divorce from an abusive spouse than to teach children to accept abuse by staying in an abusive marraige..
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Reply #12 posted 01/10/09 4:58pm

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MPLSBRAT said:

! u do need to Sing well ..2 effects r man made but comming from one who tears her kids gifts up i understand



ooohhhh...feel the burn.... mad
good one!!!
evillol
heart Life heart Sexy
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Reply #13 posted 01/10/09 5:09pm

ReginaCarman

ReginaCarman said:

Tame said:




Just so U comprehend what it is that U are saying...
If more married couples were obsessed with their partners the divorce statistics probably wouldn't be so high and children might grow up happier...good luck 2 U and U're average relationships.


Just don't forget to take into account the large number of spousal abuse that ranges from emotional and psychological to physical abuse. And also many abusers try to control with money. It is far better to get a divorce from an abusive spouse than to teach children to accept abuse by staying in an abusive marraige..


Just to respond to my own post, i think i misunderstood what was being said. i thought that someone was saying that people should stay in marriages. And i just wanted to point out that spousal abusive is the main reason divorce is so high and not some frivolous notion.
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Reply #14 posted 01/10/09 10:41pm

danzakairos

I can say in my experience, that christian music such as the contemporary songs, can really touch the heart chakra, and have tremendous healing powers.

I especially favor spanish christian music, I am usually in tears when singing these songs, at the moment I am listening to Jesus Adrian Romero he is very annoited from God, his music is touches my heart. I do not listen to secular music accept Prince's music...

To add music can have so much influence on our phycological well being, if we are listening to angry, violent, and or sexual music, then this is what we are going to start to have in our minds, and start feeling, and in some extreme cases start to act out in our lives. There has been alot of controversy about if music (rap music to be exact) was affecting our youth, and many argued (mostly the teenagers themselves) that it had no affect what so ever on them. I know it did, and still does, music is documented as having a direct affect on us.

I think musicians should start to think about how their music is going to affect those who listen to them, if there was more of a responsibility with what they produce, then I believe much more positive things could come about.
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Reply #15 posted 01/11/09 1:30am

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DrThorazine said:

obsession-
Moore, Forward and Buck believe that rejection is the trigger of obsessive love - also known as love addiction or relationship addiction. They state four conditions to help identify it, namely, a painful and all-consuming preoccupation with a real or wished-for lover, an insatiable longing either to possess or be possessed by the target of their obsession, rejection by or physical and/or emotional unavailability of their target, and being driven to behave in self-defeating ways by this rejection or unavailability.

hmmm
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Reply #16 posted 01/11/09 1:44am

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Wait Tame, I just read the quote again, and it says 'the body'...
"I'm interested in the inner workings of music, the effect on the body,..."

but then again he said....
"But that music doesn't have any wave energy to it. It'll move a party, but that's not what I'm doing here."

Well, I'm too tired to try to think right now,
maybe later.
lol
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Reply #17 posted 01/11/09 9:40am

angel345

wildgoldenhoney said:

DrThorazine said:

obsession-
Moore, Forward and Buck believe that rejection is the trigger of obsessive love - also known as love addiction or relationship addiction. They state four conditions to help identify it, namely, a painful and all-consuming preoccupation with a real or wished-for lover, an insatiable longing either to possess or be possessed by the target of their obsession, rejection by or physical and/or emotional unavailability of their target, and being driven to behave in self-defeating ways by this rejection or unavailability.

hmmm

If you notice, this comment has nothing to do with the post, but I see where this is going, so I am going to stay out of this.
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Reply #18 posted 01/11/09 9:41am

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Jimi Hendrix was looking into the same thing before he died. I hope our friend finds what he's looking for.
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Reply #19 posted 01/11/09 10:15am

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ReginaCarman said:

Tame said:




Just so U comprehend what it is that U are saying...
If more married couples were obsessed with their partners the divorce statistics probably wouldn't be so high and children might grow up happier...good luck 2 U and U're average relationships.


Just don't forget to take into account the large number of spousal abuse that ranges from emotional and psychological to physical abuse. And also many abusers try to control with money. It is far better to get a divorce from an abusive spouse than to teach children to accept abuse by staying in an abusive marraige..


Of Course I meant Love and respect being the Obsession...Not the extremes of Obsession that cause violence.

The word "Obsession," is a positive word if it means 2 dominate your mind with a loving intention. At the high end of the scale we have Jesus that was told that He was crazy by his own family...and was obsessed with preaching his Father's word until He died. Where would the world be without that obsession?
"The Lion Sleeps Tonight...
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Reply #20 posted 01/11/09 10:28am

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ReginaCarman said:

Tame said:

Prince Studying Musical Affects on the Spirit.

~We know that lyrics can easily be uplifting by what the words are expressing.
~We know that some songs can have a happy sound and the lyrics can be indifferent to the way the music moves you.
~We know that typically a blues song rides on that lonely rhythm concept.

I do believe that Prince has intentions 2 open up the energy centers within the spirit.

If U take into consideration that Hindu, "OHMmm" Bell that resonates and opens the solar plexus energy cener, and U have come 2 understand how music does affect and alert different aspects of yourself, I believe we will be comprehending a little bit of Prince's musical intentions even before his new albums come out.

We can use this thread as a way of discussing past songs and how they have made us feel.
We can try 2 learn together as a group, what tones or pitches or sequences of notes have had a spiritual awareness come with listening to something in particular.

I believe this is a unique and difficult subject to comprehend thoroughly. It would take us all some exploration with concentrating on music to become learned enough to be selective as listeners, and it would most likely be easier 4 Prince 2 manipulate music in this fashion for his listenters, being a musician.
I do believe that you do not have to be able to sing well, to be a professional listesner and worthy of contributing to this endless study, perhaps, science.

Any thoughts?
[Edited 1/10/09 14:23pm]


Hi Tame, i was wondering where u referenced some of this information. Because the Vowel sound "AUM" is not unique to the Hindus and is referenced in Ancient Egyption History. i was wondering if u could provide some names of reputable books on what u stated above. i am very interested in learning more by my own research. Thank u ahead of time. Regina


I realize that it is not confined to any one country necessarily, and Historically speaking, I personally do not know where the concept has been more enhanced.

This thread comes from various places of reading in my life...from studying Chakra's, Phycic centers and their correlation to light and sound. I have often found intersting pages from text and copied them from the library...I do have a book here that is called,"Light Emerging,"...The journey of personal healing by: Barbara Ann Brennan

A picture that I have saved from a book that I do not have the name of looks like this:

musical note
Do
Root chakra
Color of light-red

Re
Spleen
orange

Mi
Solar Plexus
Yellow

Fa
Heart
Green

So
Throat
Blue

La
Brow
Indigo

Ti
Crown
Violet

Do
Risen Kundalini
Red/violet

Although I assume...the unification is actually White light that is split by a prism. Researching Kundalini will help us both find the origin of this particular description...I assume this is Hindu.
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Reply #21 posted 01/11/09 10:29am

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He's studying music's affects on the body .
dancing jig Hey, it's time to jam! Nastyarse, dance, dance, dance!!! dancing jig sperm flag
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Aannastesia2 said:

MPLSBRAT said:

! u do need to Sing well ..2 effects r man made but comming from one who tears her kids gifts up i understand



ooohhhh...feel the burn.... mad
good one!!!
evillol



Anna, just 2 respond 2 U...and Ur statement of having nothing but contempt 4 me...based on that trivial misunderstanding where I as a reader have the right to do what I want 2 with a book that is paid for. I don't need a list of dates that illuminate the fact that I wasn't at a Prince concert...It does nothing 4 my current day...I Loved most of the pictures once again and saved them...however the run on talk about this day that year just means I wasn't there. If I need 2 know where Prince was April 4th 1994...I'll ask him.
[Edited 1/11/09 10:54am]
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methodcal said:

Jimi Hendrix was looking into the same thing before he died. I hope our friend finds what he's looking for.



I believe this 2 be a "Musical Science," that will continue on forever...We can only beging 2 scratch the surface with just a basic scale of notes...We don't know how manipulation of notes that songs produce without trying 2 comprehend the multidimensionality of that.

I desire 2 write a book along these lines, yet in a very simple fashion...not as complex as I can imagine it could be...yet that is just pages of my diary really...not being a musician, of course it is more difficult 4 me 2 comprehend.

I can't remember the synthesizer producer...I believe it is "Moog," that experimented with this concept and the orchestration of lights with music as well.

That whole therapeutic notion of caring 4 the spirit encompasses all of the senses. It is a vast exploration 4 study.
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Reply #24 posted 01/11/09 10:48am

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From the start, the subliminal message in all of Prince's music has been consistent and clear: Eat pudding in moderation. nod
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danzakairos said:

I can say in my experience, that christian music such as the contemporary songs, can really touch the heart chakra, and have tremendous healing powers.

I especially favor spanish christian music, I am usually in tears when singing these songs, at the moment I am listening to Jesus Adrian Romero he is very annoited from God, his music is touches my heart. I do not listen to secular music accept Prince's music...

To add music can have so much influence on our phycological well being, if we are listening to angry, violent, and or sexual music, then this is what we are going to start to have in our minds, and start feeling, and in some extreme cases start to act out in our lives. There has been alot of controversy about if music (rap music to be exact) was affecting our youth, and many argued (mostly the teenagers themselves) that it had no affect what so ever on them. I know it did, and still does, music is documented as having a direct affect on us.

I think musicians should start to think about how their music is going to affect those who listen to them, if there was more of a responsibility with what they produce, then I believe much more positive things could come about.


I agree with U about music having an array of conditions. I am not the kind of person that believes that "Heavy Metal," is horrible...I do believe powerful music can have a positive motion 4 your spirit...Although I am convinced that other genre's of music can have a more beneficial quality.
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Dear org readers:

Mr. Nelson has been studying the musical effects (frequencies in color) ever since the alchemical song "GOLD". He studied the chakras in buddhism / hindi / akhmet/kemet /sanskrit / asia for a very long while, before the finalization of the eternity with Jehovah the One true GOD and ancient of days.

It is proven and is a fact. A great fact. He knew when he wrote a line "I think it was in G - I can't remember"... Rave In2 and Rave Un2 are both frequency albumns of the spirit N2 and Un2 ritual of the spirit...so he already knew. Please include "The Rainbow Children" ie, frequencies in DNA, chakras, divine intervention - which causes to become (Jehovah) - who causes to become.

Now, he is ascertaining the actual "gray matter called the brain" and frequencies that change the actual physical into... a combination of a balanced spiritual with physical in the brain and the DNA strange called the (entertwined helix).

Why do I know? Cuz I've studied all the above all my life automatically - at times a challenge but with Jehovah's grace the gift.
Color in the sounds of the notes via frequency and the river of life; since I was about 7, fact. Akasha River/Hall of Records/Arc of the Covenant / Covenant between adam eve and GOD = Truth of and In Life. Have a grand progression in the spirit of my tree Day!

Take care,
QuietSeven
SingMia

Rave Un2 (left handed path)
Rave N2 (right handed path)
ONA - (orientation into the spiritual sacred sanctuary) One calling another to join in the holy spiritual alchemy the invitation 2003 she was chosen another made the grade she was left behind but will stand before all others))
Rainbow Children (physical balance and united balance alchemically to the kether with Jehovah)
Planet Earth (awakening the spirit of the earth connected with space and Jehovah with mankind a oneness the transition of it all n all)
3121 (Calling Jehovah facing Jehovah Turning away from the manmade system)
21 Nights (the path bridge to the galaxy invitation of all mankind thru frequency repetition and the joy within it prep for the flow3r in bloom)
LotuzFlow3r (the cross - the grand progression to the final eternity everlasting for 1,000 yrs).

Now take care... Godnight.
There is no fear...so nothing is ever expected and all in love is always given...SingMia.
Thank u.

[Edited 1/11/09 11:10am]
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Reply #27 posted 01/11/09 12:19pm

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Quiet7, Thank You. I can believe that Prince has been studying this 4 a long time and will continue 2...I say, "Godnight," 2...When U think about Spiritual acension in Eternity...this beautiful wisdom will never cease it will only grow and become more of our awareness as children of God.

"Elixir," is that Alchemical Spiritual Awareness of Immortality...Using base metals that the earth and our bodies and the stars are made of and realizing that these base metals can be transformed.
Jesus is the Golden Child. Amen 2 that. cool
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Reply #28 posted 01/11/09 1:00pm

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4 Some reason I feel the need 2 give the song, "Play in the Sunshine," credit 4 an overall spiritual affect or flow.

It is hard 2 explain how something can move U.

The lyrics don't necessarily have 2 be what it is that is opening U or clearing U. 4 example the song, "GOD," is a Spiritual song...although musically, it may not move U like the song, "Dark," may. Of course I love the song, "GOD," as it lyrically worships our creator although the song "Dark," moves my spirit although the concept of the song is rather sad...as is the song, "SOLO."

In all honesty...I do believe that Prince works wonders for the spirit by vocals alone. Prince voice just has that healing quality. In a sense we have 2 look at Prince's voice as an instrument that is matching notes that are technically generated.
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Reply #29 posted 01/11/09 1:04pm

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There is an instrumental piece on The Rainbow Children CD that sounds "new age". I think this might be what he is talking about.
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