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Thread started 01/07/09 12:39pm

DetroitMusic

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Prince doesn't Need No Record Label to Succeed!

I'm so sick and tired of reading crap about How Prince needs this and Prince needs that. The man has been writing music all his life and he's a great musician who has created a vast body of work, from 1978 to The Present.
If you think Prince's music is lackluster or not substantial, then go and find some other artist who does it for you every time and leave the negative energy off the Prince sites.

The man is human and I don't like everything he does, but thats why he writes all kinds of music, something for everyone, if I don't like Planet Earth, then I can listen to All The Midnights or Somewhere here on earth.

We as supporters aren't gonna always be please and if you were in his shoes, you'd think that everything you put out was A1. So get off your high horses ppl. Prince was with Warner Bro.s for 15 years and won 3 grammys?

Now since he's been free, he's won 3 or 4 more, so that says alot for his accomplishments as an indie artist.

The Grammys recognize good musicianship thou were faced with bubble gum pop mess each year. I think its great he's putting out 2 new albums in the new year, because he's got alot to say musically, even if its experiments from the past few years.

Not everyone will love his latter work, because its not forced down our throats like his earlier work.
Think about it, if he released most of the music he's done in the past decade back in the 80's, we'd love it, but because were use to his style and sound of music, we think its repeating himself and not innovative.

Prince took from several of his fav artists: Hendrix, Little Richard, Joni Mitchell, Sly Stone, George and James, so he's never been innovative, he's just put his own twist on things, sure he was like no one else during the 80's but thats only because he was colorful enough to pull these things off and most kids were intrigued by it...since he was the only black dude combining all the different styles of music and his idols.

We hadn't seen that, but if you ask your grandparents, they'll tell ya, it had already been done before.
So in 2008/09, Prince is doing only what Prince can do, Teach the new youth of today about real music and about showmanship, something he's been doing all along.

His music ain't changed much, its just a different day and age!
I'm excited and Prince really doesn't need a label, there's still an interest in him as an artist and celebrity. He's still respected, and he still makes his money, not to mention anyone would be hard pressed to work with him, if he requested it, so why go back to the slave masters who aren't gonna work for the artist like they use too.

I hope Prince, never goes back to a major label, cause guess what, soon enough, they'll be obselete!!!
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Reply #1 posted 01/07/09 12:40pm

Genesia

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There's already a "record label" thread. But you just had to have your own, didn't you? rolleyes
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Reply #2 posted 01/07/09 12:42pm

zhare

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DetroitMusic said:

I'm so sick and tired of reading crap about How Prince needs this and Prince needs that. The man has been writing music all his life and he's a great musician who has created a vast body of work, from 1978 to The Present.
If you think Prince's music is lackluster or not substantial, then go and find some other artist who does it for you every time and leave the negative energy off the Prince sites.

The man is human and I don't like everything he does, but thats why he writes all kinds of music, something for everyone, if I don't like Planet Earth, then I can listen to All The Midnights or Somewhere here on earth.

We as supporters aren't gonna always be please and if you were in his shoes, you'd think that everything you put out was A1. So get off your high horses ppl. Prince was with Warner Bro.s for 15 years and won 3 grammys?

Now since he's been free, he's won 3 or 4 more, so that says alot for his accomplishments as an indie artist.

The Grammys recognize good musicianship thou were faced with bubble gum pop mess each year. I think its great he's putting out 2 new albums in the new year, because he's got alot to say musically, even if its experiments from the past few years.

Not everyone will love his latter work, because its not forced down our throats like his earlier work.
Think about it, if he released most of the music he's done in the past decade back in the 80's, we'd love it, but because were use to his style and sound of music, we think its repeating himself and not innovative.

Prince took from several of his fav artists: Hendrix, Little Richard, Joni Mitchell, Sly Stone, George and James, so he's never been innovative, he's just put his own twist on things, sure he was like no one else during the 80's but thats only because he was colorful enough to pull these things off and most kids were intrigued by it...since he was the only black dude combining all the different styles of music and his idols.

We hadn't seen that, but if you ask your grandparents, they'll tell ya, it had already been done before.
So in 2008/09, Prince is doing only what Prince can do, Teach the new youth of today about real music and about showmanship, something he's been doing all along.

His music ain't changed much, its just a different day and age!
I'm excited and Prince really doesn't need a label, there's still an interest in him as an artist and celebrity. He's still respected, and he still makes his money, not to mention anyone would be hard pressed to work with him, if he requested it, so why go back to the slave masters who aren't gonna work for the artist like they use too.

I hope Prince, never goes back to a major label, cause guess what, soon enough, they'll be obselete!!!





WELL SAID
Yeah it's like "oh you mocked me for liking him but now he's dead it's cool to play him again?" And then they look at you funny when you don't play him. -Timmy on after 6-25 fans
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Reply #3 posted 01/07/09 12:43pm

DetroitMusic

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I know Genesia...Thanx anyways Honey! biggrin
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Reply #4 posted 01/07/09 12:55pm

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DetroitMusic said:

I'm so sick and tired of reading crap about How Prince needs this and Prince needs that. The man has been writing music all his life and he's a great musician who has created a vast body of work, from 1978 to The Present.
If you think Prince's music is lackluster or not substantial, then go and find some other artist who does it for you every time and leave the negative energy off the Prince sites.

The man is human and I don't like everything he does, but thats why he writes all kinds of music, something for everyone, if I don't like Planet Earth, then I can listen to All The Midnights or Somewhere here on earth.

We as supporters aren't gonna always be please and if you were in his shoes, you'd think that everything you put out was A1. So get off your high horses ppl. Prince was with Warner Bro.s for 15 years and won 3 grammys?

Now since he's been free, he's won 3 or 4 more, so that says alot for his accomplishments as an indie artist.

The Grammys recognize good musicianship thou were faced with bubble gum pop mess each year. I think its great he's putting out 2 new albums in the new year, because he's got alot to say musically, even if its experiments from the past few years.

Not everyone will love his latter work, because its not forced down our throats like his earlier work.
Think about it, if he released most of the music he's done in the past decade back in the 80's, we'd love it, but because were use to his style and sound of music, we think its repeating himself and not innovative.

Prince took from several of his fav artists: Hendrix, Little Richard, Joni Mitchell, Sly Stone, George and James, so he's never been innovative, he's just put his own twist on things, sure he was like no one else during the 80's but thats only because he was colorful enough to pull these things off and most kids were intrigued by it...since he was the only black dude combining all the different styles of music and his idols.

We hadn't seen that, but if you ask your grandparents, they'll tell ya, it had already been done before.
So in 2008/09, Prince is doing only what Prince can do, Teach the new youth of today about real music and about showmanship, something he's been doing all along.

His music ain't changed much, its just a different day and age!
I'm excited and Prince really doesn't need a label, there's still an interest in him as an artist and celebrity. He's still respected, and he still makes his money, not to mention anyone would be hard pressed to work with him, if he requested it, so why go back to the slave masters who aren't gonna work for the artist like they use too.

I hope Prince, never goes back to a major label, cause guess what, soon enough, they'll be obselete!!!


I fully agree 100% even if there is another thread razz good you put it this way. I basically am trying to explain this same thing in the other one razz
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Reply #5 posted 01/07/09 12:55pm

nekronhhr

Prince does need a label....there was a thread a while ago asking which album was his last masterpiece...it was almost unanimous. The Gold Experience. I didnt see the connection between that and the record label until someone pointed out WB probably gave him constructive criticism all those years which makes a lot of sense. Theres no denying Prince is a musical genius but when all you do is make music mostly by yourself sometimes its good for a 2nd opinion. Further evidence of his need for a record label came in 2004...Prince had been trying to make a comeback for years..it wasnt until he had major label support with Musicology that gave him a mainstream career resurrection. Now I'm not saying he cant make good, or even great music without a label...just saying for any type of mainstream recognition or support you need the big record label promotion.
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Reply #6 posted 01/07/09 1:20pm

DetroitMusic

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LMAO..record labels don't equal masterpieces LMAO!!!
Was Rave a masterpiece NO, was Rainbow Children a masterpiece YES!!! without a label..., so thats doesn't make it a masterpiece because a stupid record label sticker is on the product!

How many artists have bombed lately with a label?????
Too many to list!!!

Rave was solid, but no promotion at all...except for its first single and a few commecials to kick start the project.

Emancipation was a good solid collection of songs, but it wasn't too many so called fans a masterpiece.

Musicology wasn't even a masterpiece, but it was just a good pop record, so come on ppl...he's damned if he do and damned if he don't!

Lotus Flower will be a solid record, but masterpiece...hmmm remains to be seen/heard, but its gonna do what its gonna do with a label or not!
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Reply #7 posted 01/07/09 1:23pm

DetroitMusic

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...and if you think Prince believes in 2nd opinions, your damned wrong!
Prince has the last say so, thats the way the cookie bakes or crumbles.
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Reply #8 posted 01/07/09 1:27pm

NDRU

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DetroitMusic said:

LMAO..record labels don't equal masterpieces LMAO!!!


all you need to do is look at the top 40 to know that!

For Prince (or any great artist) to produce masterpieces, he needs to be in the right place, that's all.
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Reply #9 posted 01/07/09 1:53pm

JayJai

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I'll just quote myself from the other thread:

True...
Prince wouldn't be better off with a record deal cause he'll be releasing tons of music per yr, then the other artists on the label will get pissed cause they're not gettin enuff attention and that'll cause conflict, then the execs will tell Prince that they can't release as much and as often as he wants to and he has to abide by the contract(s), then prince will just leave cause he'll feel the same way he felt with Warners all over again.
Let the man keep his sanity and do wat makes him comfy and happy...
aight y'all...
I swear the words "HATER" is wayyy over-rated...smh
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Reply #10 posted 01/07/09 2:44pm

DetroitMusic

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AMEN JayJai...not please put your tounge back in your mouth lmao lol
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Reply #11 posted 01/07/09 2:46pm

Dayclear

Nope, he doesn't need no stinkin' record label!
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Reply #12 posted 01/07/09 3:25pm

JayJai

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DetroitMusic said:

AMEN JayJai...not please put your tounge back in your mouth lmao lol


nope
come here u hug
u kno u wanna taste lick
giggle I said I'd be a good girl for this yr but Santa didn't fullfil my xmas wishes so to hell wit being a good girl nana
I swear the words "HATER" is wayyy over-rated...smh
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Reply #13 posted 01/07/09 3:34pm

DetroitMusic

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lmao....muahhhh
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Reply #14 posted 01/07/09 10:34pm

Sdldawn

He doesn't need a label. Just good music to succeed.


a perfect template would be Nine Inch Nails right now.. good music is equaling music success.
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Reply #15 posted 01/07/09 10:38pm

jstar69

Record Labels are not what they used to be - The industry has evolved dramatically over the years (since mid 90's til now) and will continue to do so

A record deal is no longer the lucrative relationship it once was.
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Reply #16 posted 01/08/09 7:32am

kenlacam

I guess with the double negatives in the title, Prince does need a record label? hmmm
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Reply #17 posted 01/08/09 7:40am

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Sdldawn said:

He doesn't need a label. Just good music to succeed.


a perfect template would be Nine Inch Nails right now.. good music is equaling music success.


In a related note.

http://forum.nin.com/bb/r...?18,378166
‎"The first time I saw the cover of Dirty Mind in the early 80s I thought, 'Is this some drag queen ripping on Freddie Prinze?'" - Some guy on The Gear Page
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Reply #18 posted 01/08/09 7:45am

mplsmike

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carlcranshaw said:



I would love to see this drool3
Love Life,
Love God,
And Only Do Drugs You Need
smoker

... wave
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Reply #19 posted 01/08/09 8:37pm

Tame

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It's also nice 2 know that Prince has the support of plenty of DJ's around the country to announce his music.

I was happy to hear on my local radio station Jammin99.9 out of South Carolina, that DJ "Tommy Gund," is a Prince fan and mentioned on the air that Prince would have 3 records coming out this year and mentioned "Wall-Mart," as the distributor...

I was really happy about that...
"The Lion Sleeps Tonight...
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Reply #20 posted 01/08/09 9:01pm

Vendetta1

Grammys are a glorified popularity contest these days. There were a multitude of songs that deserved a Grammy than Future Baby Mama.

My days of supporting Prince just because he is Prince is over. I'm done with the honeymoon phase. It has to be good.
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Reply #21 posted 01/09/09 1:17am

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look I cant wait for any prince song or album, but it must be noted that his musical quality has declined severely since he stopped working with WB. I dont know if that is because of the label or because of something else, all I know is that it con-incided. Since then, yes his popularity has dropped, but I truly beleive he has lost something as a songwriter - I dont know what it is, but its not there for him anymore. just my opinion.
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