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Thread started 11/18/08 11:03am

jonylawson

prince has a right to say what he wants-whether you dig it or not

perhaps the lesson here is dont attempt to live thr another human-you'll always be upset

especially as an adult

p hasnt realy hid his views just veiled them

me? i just love his music-end of story


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–adjective 1. performed, exercised, received, or suffered in place of another: vicarious punishment.
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Reply #1 posted 11/18/08 11:08am

Anxiety

he has a right to say whatever he wants, but as a public figure, when he makes a statement that is printed in a mainstream media publication, the public has a right to voice their opinions about what they read. shrug
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Reply #2 posted 11/18/08 11:11am

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prince has a right to say what he wants-whether you dig it or not


HELL YEAH!!! woot!

no further comment giggle
had 2 run away... pride was 2 strong. It started raining, baby, the birds were gone
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Reply #3 posted 11/18/08 12:43pm

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Anxiety said:

he has a right to say whatever he wants, but as a public figure, when he makes a statement that is printed in a mainstream media publication, the public has a right to voice their opinions about what they read. shrug


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man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #4 posted 11/18/08 1:02pm

DesireeNevermi
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hence all these dang threads about what the said or didn't say in that interview that did or didn't happen! falloff
proof that too much time has elapsed between new CDs and a tour! we Prince fans be a spoiled bunch doh! especially the rest O' y'all falloff
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Reply #5 posted 11/18/08 1:04pm

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Prince has every right to say wat he wants, I have every right to say wat I want, everyone on here as every right to say what they want, everybody in the entire world has a right to say what they want!...
FREEDOM OF SPEECH

Just as gays want to live their life and straights want to live their life...Just as long as no-one is harmed by actions...
FREEDOM OF CHOICE

AND just because someone doesn't agree with an aspect of your life, THAT DOESN'T mean they hate u, or they want to kill u, or they wish u should die or anything bashful. Everybody knows someone that does something (major or minor) that they don't agree wit, but that doesn't mean u hate the person. One of my closest female friends smokes and drinks, she knows I don't like it and depending on where she might b going out to hang, she won't invite me, it's a mutual understanding, and she knows I still have alot of love for her.
Homosexuals don't need to feel threatened just because someone doesn't agree wit that specific lifestyle.
I gots love for everybody hug
I swear the words "HATER" is wayyy over-rated...smh
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Reply #6 posted 11/18/08 1:07pm

monk76

He has the right to wear what he wants but please not in public.....
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Reply #7 posted 11/18/08 1:09pm

union119

what makes him think we're interested in what he has to say?

we want MUSIC.
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Reply #8 posted 11/18/08 1:10pm

Christopher

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monk76 said:

He has the right to wear what he wants but please not in public.....


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Reply #9 posted 11/18/08 1:10pm

toots

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Publicaly we can hate him if we want as well depends on the individual nod
Smurf theme song-seriously how many fucking "La Las" can u fit into a dam song wall
Proud Wendy and Lisa Fancy Lesbian asskisser thumbs up!
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Reply #10 posted 11/18/08 1:11pm

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JayJai said:

Prince has every right to say wat he wants, I have every right to say wat I want, everyone on here as every right to say what they want, everybody in the entire world has a right to say what they want!...
FREEDOM OF SPEECH

Just as gays want to live their life and straights want to live their life...Just as long as no-one is harmed by actions...
FREEDOM OF CHOICE

AND just because someone doesn't agree with an aspect of your life, THAT DOESN'T mean they hate u, or they want to kill u, or they wish u should die or anything bashful. Everybody knows someone that does something (major or minor) that they don't agree wit, but that doesn't mean u hate the person. One of my closest female friends smokes and drinks, she knows I don't like it and depending on where she might b going out to hang, she won't invite me, it's a mutual understanding, and she knows I still have alot of love for her.
Homosexuals don't need to feel threatened just because someone doesn't agree wit that specific lifestyle.
I gots love for everybody hug




WOW! that was pretty cool.thumbs up! We just live in a culture of overly political correctness where u can't say shit for fear of somebody thinking they're rights are being violated, but at the same time the line has been drawn so dimly in the sand nobody knows whats an opinion or an insult/slur. However I must opine that we gotta stop tossing the word hate around so loosely!
dammit I hate those who hate Prince cuz they think he hates them when he don't hate nobody cept them haters who hate planet earth cuz they full a hate when hate don't live here anymore. bawl trulylove where are you?????
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Reply #11 posted 11/18/08 1:42pm

PleasurePrinci
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Im so sick of people announcing that theyre leaving. Orgnote ur buddies ur email address and get the steppin rolleyes yawn
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Reply #12 posted 11/18/08 1:49pm

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prince has a right to say what he wants-whether you dig it or not


True! Just as we have a right to say what we want-whether you or he digs it or not! cool
I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart.
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Reply #13 posted 11/18/08 2:01pm

wonder505

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Im so sick of people announcing that theyre leaving. Orgnote ur buddies ur email address and get the steppin rolleyes yawn


now you know those people don't really leave. one said he was deleting his account and its still active. all those who say they're done with prince bcuz he's this and that still come here and follow his career...kinda weired.
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Reply #14 posted 11/18/08 2:27pm

hwbefhbwvfbqii
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prince hasnt been releasing great cds lately but at least he has grown in topics he used to be very naive.

i agree with prince.


u guys get too excited with obama when he hasnt done ANYTHING yet and u dont respect prince who has been out there forever. dont get THAT silly-emotional-demagogic-hippie-democrat style and please come back to reality.
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Reply #15 posted 11/18/08 2:27pm

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PleasurePrinciple said:

Im so sick of people announcing that theyre leaving. Orgnote ur buddies ur email address and get the steppin rolleyes yawn

co-sign
Smurf theme song-seriously how many fucking "La Las" can u fit into a dam song wall
Proud Wendy and Lisa Fancy Lesbian asskisser thumbs up!
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Reply #16 posted 11/18/08 2:49pm

Etorres

He can say whatever he wants ...His beliefs do not shape or impact the way I live and I would hope others live their life....He is another person living in this life.

You can't take his words or any others as the truth or the be all end all...

It's just words ...nothing prolific
Youth is wasted on the young .....
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Reply #17 posted 11/18/08 3:18pm

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wonder505 said:

PleasurePrinciple said:

Im so sick of people announcing that theyre leaving. Orgnote ur buddies ur email address and get the steppin rolleyes yawn


now you know those people don't really leave. one said he was deleting his account and its still active. all those who say they're done with prince bcuz he's this and that still come here and follow his career...kinda weired.



cuz they a tad bit fanatical. or maybe this really is the last place where they are allowed to play. falloff
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Reply #18 posted 11/18/08 3:37pm

maxim9691

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Reply #19 posted 11/18/08 3:43pm

Haystack

Etorres said:

He can say whatever he wants ...His beliefs do not shape or impact the way I live and I would hope others live their life....He is another person living in this life.

You can't take his words or any others as the truth or the be all end all...

It's just words ...nothing prolific


I like what you've said here enormously.

Trouble is, when you've been listening to a man and supporting him for many years and enjoying what he's been creating, to suddenly read that he actually thinks you're somehow second-class and don't deserve the same rights as other people and he's looking at you as some kind of sinner; well, it's hard to sit and listen to him anymore.

I will keep saying it though; I'm really hoping that the article in question really was bullshit and the publication in question will publish an apology and Prince will, very quickly, make an official comment that he isn't that narrow minded. If it doesn't happen, then we can all come to the conclusion that he's a narrow-minded arse and doesn't give a shit who knows it. The Dr. Funkenberry post just doesn't put anything right.

Whether he said the things or not, I'm getting very depressed at the amount of fans here who can't see just what damage his comments have caused. If he'd made racist comments, there'd have been a huge outcry and nobody would have supported him, even those who reckon he should be entitled to his opinions whatever they are. confused

But hey, homophobia is still the discrimination it's okay to have, right!
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Reply #20 posted 11/18/08 3:54pm

wonder505

Haystack said:

Etorres said:

He can say whatever he wants ...His beliefs do not shape or impact the way I live and I would hope others live their life....He is another person living in this life.

You can't take his words or any others as the truth or the be all end all...

It's just words ...nothing prolific


I like what you've said here enormously.

Trouble is, when you've been listening to a man and supporting him for many years and enjoying what he's been creating, to suddenly read that he actually thinks you're somehow second-class and don't deserve the same rights as other people and he's looking at you as some kind of sinner; well, it's hard to sit and listen to him anymore.

I will keep saying it though; I'm really hoping that the article in question really was bullshit and the publication in question will publish an apology and Prince will, very quickly, make an official comment that he isn't that narrow minded. If it doesn't happen, then we can all come to the conclusion that he's a narrow-minded arse and doesn't give a shit who knows it. The Dr. Funkenberry post just doesn't put anything right.

Whether he said the things or not, I'm getting very depressed at the amount of fans here who can't see just what damage his comments have caused. If he'd made racist comments, there'd have been a huge outcry and nobody would have supported him, even those who reckon he should be entitled to his opinions whatever they are. confused

But hey, homophobia is still the discrimination it's okay to have, right!


so where does that leave you? if you believe Prince thinks of you like that are you done now? will you continue to visit fansites? follow his career? why would you want read or follow anything of him after this? these are questions out of curiosity of what people are really going to do.
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Reply #21 posted 11/18/08 4:02pm

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hwbefhbwvfbqiiuvb said:

u guys get too excited with obama when he hasnt done ANYTHING yet and u dont respect prince who has been out there forever.


falloff Oh Lord, I've heard it all now! How can you compare Prince, who is an entertainer, with Obama. I can just imagine Prince running the country. lol
Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #22 posted 11/18/08 4:11pm

Haystack

wonder505 said:

so where does that leave you? if you believe Prince thinks of you like that are you done now? will you continue to visit fansites? follow his career? why would you want read or follow anything of him after this? these are questions out of curiosity of what people are really going to do.


I will follow this situation closely and see how Prince follows it too. If there's nothing forthcoming that 100% clears this up to my satisfaction then yes, I'll be gone and I genuinely won't be listening to this guy again. There are some things people say or do that leave you never feeling the same way about them again. This will be one of them if the situation is left as it is. I don't support anybody who considers me inferior to them, who feels I need to be somehow corrected and views me as someone who is a 'sinner'.

As a case in point and somebody I've mentioned before recently. Some of Gary Glitter's stuff was great pop and extremely catchy. However, it's horribly uncomfortable and downright nasty to listen to now.




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Reply #23 posted 11/18/08 4:12pm

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damn. it's not like he's killed anyone or something nobody has heard before! sthis is prince! come on! he doesn't hate gays, he never said that. he just doesn't believe in gay 'marriage' as per the doctrine he feels compelled to follow dictates, and he's not alone. lots of non-jw folk don't.

frankly many think it's ridiculous. here in the uk it's been renamed 'civil partnerships', and that's cool and all, but it can be argued it's not true marriage as the bible and the vast majority of folk who don't follow any particularly strict religion see it.

it could be worse, he could have converted to something that would rather see gay folks put to the sword, and expressed that bullshit. not naming religions, but you know!

everybody get a grip.
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Reply #24 posted 11/18/08 4:19pm

wonder505

Haystack said:

wonder505 said:

so where does that leave you? if you believe Prince thinks of you like that are you done now? will you continue to visit fansites? follow his career? why would you want read or follow anything of him after this? these are questions out of curiosity of what people are really going to do.


I will follow this situation closely and see how Prince follows it too. If there's nothing forthcoming that 100% clears this up to my satisfaction then yes, I'll be gone and I genuinely won't be listening to this guy again. There are some things people say or do that leave you never feeling the same way about them again. This will be one of them if the situation is left as it is. I don't support anybody who considers me inferior to them, who feels I need to be somehow corrected and views me as someone who is a 'sinner'.

As a case in point and somebody I've mentioned before recently. Some of Gary Glitter's stuff was great pop and extremely catchy. However, it's horribly uncomfortable and downright nasty to listen to now.


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well you might as well hang it up now (especially since you're using Gary Glitter as example...yikes!) he's already sent out a retraction and I doubt he will do more, though I think sending a statement to a legitimate news source is much better..

i have my own thoughts about the matter. i honestly don't believe he hates gay people, and I soooo wish he would keep his religious beliefs to himself from now on.
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Reply #25 posted 11/18/08 4:21pm

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Marrk said:

damn. it's not like he's killed anyone or something nobody has heard before! sthis is prince! come on! he doesn't hate gays, he never said that. he just doesn't believe in gay 'marriage' as per the doctrine he feels compelled to follow dictates, and he's not alone. lots of non-jw folk don't.

frankly many think it's ridiculous. here in the uk it's been renamed 'civil partnerships', and that's cool and all, but it can be argued it's not true marriage as the bible and the vast majority of folk who don't follow any particularly strict religion see it.

it could be worse, he could have converted to something that would rather see gay folks put to the sword, and expressed that bullshit. not naming religions, but you know!

everybody get a grip.



Another brilliant post second only to the many I have made myself falloff But seriously...you have civil partnerships in UK? Are homosexuals okay with that or do they have the same uproar as here in the U.S? I think we have 2 states that allow gay marriage and several that allow civil partnerships or unions for both gays and straights, the unions are identical to the legal benefits of marriage contracts in terms of property rights, hospital visitations, wills and testaments, shared health benefits etc. but gays & straights are hung up on the word "marriage". Is it that way in the UK? Are people hung up on the title as if it will change people's perceptions and opinions? just curious biggrin Even in states where gay marriage is not allowed, gay couples can still get a civil union and walk into a willing church and have a marriage ceremony. Ceremonies are not illegal contrary to popular opinion.
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Reply #26 posted 11/18/08 4:23pm

Marrk

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Haystack said:



As a case in point and somebody I've mentioned before recently. Some of Gary Glitter's stuff was great pop and extremely catchy. However, it's horribly uncomfortable and downright nasty to listen to now.




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that is a ridiculous comparison haystack, you're comparing him against a pedophile and his half a dozen 'catchy' songs?

some things are indefensible, others are not. What Prince said isn't sickening or evil. if he even said it at all!
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Reply #27 posted 11/18/08 4:25pm

Haystack

wonder505 said:

I soooo wish he would keep his religious beliefs to himself from now on.


Co-sign. But now he has apparently blurted it out (and I hope he can show that he really didn't), he's messed things up as at right now. More and more sites are reporting this latest controversy. Searching for 'Prince Anti Gay' on Google now comes up with even more pages than it did last night.

This is all becoming an incredible car crash, especially with the perfume company suing him.

Prince will have to pull a lot of rabbits out of hats to make this one go good.
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Reply #28 posted 11/18/08 4:28pm

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JayJai said:

Prince has every right to say wat he wants, I have every right to say wat I want, everyone on here as every right to say what they want, everybody in the entire world has a right to say what they want!...
FREEDOM OF SPEECH

Just as gays want to live their life and straights want to live their life...Just as long as no-one is harmed by actions...
FREEDOM OF CHOICE

AND just because someone doesn't agree with an aspect of your life, THAT DOESN'T mean they hate u, or they want to kill u, or they wish u should die or anything bashful. Everybody knows someone that does something (major or minor) that they don't agree wit, but that doesn't mean u hate the person. One of my closest female friends smokes and drinks, she knows I don't like it and depending on where she might b going out to hang, she won't invite me, it's a mutual understanding, and she knows I still have alot of love for her.
Homosexuals don't need to feel threatened just because someone doesn't agree wit that specific lifestyle.
I gots love for everybody hug


nod I wish that everyone could understand..., so there would be less violence in the world
Forever in my life...
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Reply #29 posted 11/18/08 4:29pm

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Haystack said:

wonder505 said:

I soooo wish he would keep his religious beliefs to himself from now on.


Co-sign. But now he has apparently blurted it out (and I hope he can show that he really didn't), he's messed things up as at right now. More and more sites are reporting this latest controversy. Searching for 'Prince Anti Gay' on Google now comes up with even more pages than it did last night.

This is all becoming an incredible car crash, especially with the perfume company suing him.

Prince will have to pull a lot of rabbits out of hats to make this one go good.



the new yorker needs to publish a retraction about the misquote ASAP
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