Yeah yeah, i'm gonna get flamed for this, but here is my point:

There ara a lot of listener-defined top 100's 2000's and whatever here on Dutch radio. Some even about s specific period, let's day the eighties. I find it stunning that Prince is never that high in the rankings.
So, IMO Purple Rain is a classic rocksong. Maybe we have heard it to much, but i think you can call it a classic. How come Prince never makes it to the top 10 of these 'polls' ?
Why are there always like 5 U2 songs above Prince?

In other words, we orgers probably agree that he made al ot of classics, but why don't the others (the general public) agree with us, at least on a few songs? (Purple Rain, 1999, KISS, SOTT)
[Edited 7/10/08 7:10am]

remko said:

It's down to the people voting. These sorts of polls are just opinion. They get printed and people think they're official facts issued by the government or something.

Classic pop songs? Cream, Raspberry Beret, U Got The Look?

It depends when the poll is taken. If this poll had been taken in 1985, Prince would probably have had 6 or 7 songs in the top 100.

RodeoSchro said:

That's my point: a classic song would still be remembered (like a lot of the U2 stuff from the eighties). And i am talking about polls at stations that broadcast music from the eighties, or are not aiming at the present pop music.

I think it's because even his more 'classic' type pop songs can't really be 'classified' or put in any one 'genre', maybe...and I think most of the general public think of Kiss (although quite a lot think that's Tom Jones) and/or U Got the Look when it comes to Prince and that's about IT! (Maybe Raspberry Beret, D&P and Cream ... they can remember the words to those ones too!)

I remember when "Pop-Life," was mixed into songs in the 80's, alongside of "Rasberry Beret," and "Little-Red Corvette." and "1999" and today...U don't hear "Pop-Life," anymore...I don't know the answers to these questions...I just know that I have very little control to change anything in this world.

Jeffiner said:

But a song from the 80's is a song from the 80's. It is just that somebody so populair in that era seems to be forgotten by a lot of people. Other songs stay better in peoples heads (and therefore are classic?) or what?
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I DO think the general public considers certain Prince songs "classics". Although songs like Rasberry Beret (which I never liked, except for the intro on the 12') gets played to DEATH, I think the one song that is considered by the masses as a classic by Prince is Little Red Corvette. Another one that I think the general public sees as a classic is When Doves Cry. The title song "Purple Rain" definately. I'm not talking Prince fans, I'm talking the general public. I believe those 3 songs are what pops up in folks minds regarding Prince because I think those songs are held in the highest esteem with the general public regarding Prince.

i would say 'kiss' but to call it strickly pop would be an understatement because it fuses funk/soul e.t.c.

so is there such a type of song by prince for the general public? cause i agree with the whole fuse together or just one genre and it's a sort of hard thing to put your finger on just excatly what type of song prince does unless well you are a fan who really checks out his music and heck,thats sometimes hard to pinpoint it out on everything. it's up in the air often..which is cool.

because the majority of the people like mindless crap music

of course all his chart stuff is classic & is held dear 2 anyone tht bought the sexy grooves back in the day!
it'd good 2 see the hits get the credit they deserve, but maybe doesn't get a decent mention cuz people don't wanna get sued.
if it's up there at the top it's gonna get noticed & he's gonna be provoked & bristling!
who the heck ranks 'the classics' anyway?
all rigged i say!
thts my theory anyway

lottielooloo1968 said:

what you said about a decent mention..makes me wonder if hat has something to do with why the radio stations don't play prince very often well besides all the songs we have already mentioned.. whats the deal with that anyone know? is there any connection?

Tamera1 said:

saw an interview during the musicology tour & he was asked if he listens 2 radio - he looked horrified, & was adamant he didn't.
i've never heard him on the airwaves in uk since diamonds & p..altho some purple noise was put out on his 50th birthday.
he's distanced himself from the industry & 4 them it's all about the pretty greens

lottielooloo1968 said:

Its my impression that the hits don't get the credit they deserve. I think Prince was a very big influence in pop music in the 80's, but a lot of his popularity of those days has faded, so that even when the public is sked for the greatest hits of the 80's, prince isn't exactly the first that comes to mind.
Must say (admit?) though that the other 2 big names (Madonna and MJ) are lower in those lists i mentioned before.

raspberry beret is as classic pop song as it gets

blackguitaristz said:

I'm glad I'm not the only person who doesn't like Raspberry Beret, whenever I hear that being played I'm like 'groan'...well I kind of like it in the context of the album, and I quite like the video but...I'd never actually choose to play it! It was good fun at the O2 though, because then we could sing/shout to him that we LOVED him..and he'd do that 'I love you too' thing - that was sweet!

remko said:

"A classic song would still be remembered". I think the reason people vote for and remember U2 is that they are still a very large band today, if Prince would've been that large today, people would've remembered his hits.
[Edited 7/12/08 12:04pm]

Dewrede said:

blackguitaristz said:

blackguitaristz how can you NOT like Rasberry Beret??

The lyrics are classic!

It's one of the best songs ever written.

It's witty and really unerstated. Classic Prince!

U got the look and I would die 4 u need a mention here. And if you were like me(in your 30's) and still bought singles, had the added pleasure of the b sides. Erotic city, 17 days, She's always in my hair and many more.

Prince recorded many a classic. Many of his best were only found by the fans who bought and searched for more.

There is more then Purple Rain IMO.

When you were mine and Raspberret Beret especially are songs covered and played by al sort of musicians and people.

And when it comes to songs that connect to people in terms of lyrics, i think you can't rule out: How come you don't call me anymore and Nothing compares to You.
Many people don't even know Prince wrote these songs.

Next to that Prince has done a bunch of groundbreaking songs, that probably don't ring a bell among these 'classic rock' admirers.

I mean: When doves Cry, Kiss and Sign of the Times, are very innovative songs, soundwise, that have had a lot of impact on musical producers all over the world.

Do 2 girls shit in one cup?

Riverpoet31 said:

I don't mean classic rock, but classic in the way that it is still in the heads of people.

DANGEROUSx said:

Riverpoet31 said:

When You Were Mine.. is one of those classic 'forgotten' Prince songs...

Did Jill Jones cover this??

pepper7 said:

Maybe we should also include Get Off, because of the returning scream that suddenly appeared everywhere.

remko said:

as we all know pfans are a hard bunch to please so in response,yes prince did have some classic moments,
hello anyone 1999!! where were u at the turn of the century had he not dropped this in what 1982 whatever what would millions of new years eve parties been like and fo sho little red corvette, when doves cry let's go crazy, raspberry beret, kiss, alphabet street, cream, getoff, sexi mutha haha radios loved this. I think salt'n'pepper sampled it or destinys child speakin of which/ beyonce can't get enough of him her and jay-z bite if i was your girlfriend for their bonnie and clyde track alicia keys wants him to call her not to many hip bling crazee itunes droppin kittycats would have known this was a prince original need i say more everything was quiet and BAM he dropped the most beautiful girl in the world and i guess that was the last time prince climbed upon the pop charts like it was his ladder to own till 'good life' gave him a bit of club luv and 3121 touched somebody and the grammys showed him some luv that was his due so prince fans not everyone travelled with us and kept the faith due to that whole symbol thing but what they won't deny is that back in the day prince was all ways good for a radio track or club tune peace out

nodice69 said:

Are we supposed to read this? Please post again and use some interpunction.