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Rick James vs. Prince (book -- "The Confessions of Rick James" Folks,
Rick James has an amusing Prince anecdote in his book, "The Confessions of Rick James: Memoirs of A Super Freak". It details the origins of their rivalry and other juicy details. Hint: it began when Rick James invited Prince to be his opening act during the FIRE IT UP tour. There's an article on this anecdote at http://www.thewowjonesreport.com Check it out when you can. -1duke | |
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I was a RJ fan until I was in college, from back in jr. high... U couldn't tell me ANYTHING about Prince! 
I kind of believe some of it. I'm sure part of it is "sour grapes exaggeration", tho. 
U know the die-hards are going to flip  and start dissin' Rick!  "Love Hurts. Your lies, they cut me. Now your words don't mean a thing. I don't give a damn if you ever loved me..." -Cher, "Woman's World" | |
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Thank god Mr. James taught him his trademarked hand to the ear thing.
We may never had heard about Prince. Whew!!! "What's the hurry 2 die without tryin?
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yeah, i had to start a thread on these guys on this very subject a few mos ago. funny funny stuff. | |
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That story always makes me laugh.
I love Rick. | |
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i just got that book!
$16 AUD!! Such a sweet deal, i'll be digging into it shortly! AWESOME cover pic too... RIP 1958-2016 Prince  RIP 1947-2016 David Bowie
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"I'm Rick James bitch" Luv Ya Rick | |
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I still think Teena Marie and Jill Jones should co-author a book about those days. | |
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Sounds plausible to me. Everybody has to learn how to perform and I can imagine Prince seeing a cat like Rick and realizing he really had to step up his game. Of course this account doesn't mention where Rick learned it from. James Brown and others were doing this shit long before Rick so I doubt he originated much. |
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lol, that is a great story,
so that's where Prince got that from! Rick James was right to be pissed,lol He would copy Rick's show and perform it before Rick! .....Prince is such a prick, lol The feminine little man he has some major balls tho! | |
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violetblues said: lol, that is a great story,
so that's where Prince got that from! Rick James was right to be pissed,lol He would copy Rick's show and perform it before Rick! .....Prince is such a prick, lol The feminine little man he has some major balls tho! ----- Rick got a lot of stuff from JB and other R&B performers that came before him. The book is a good read but, Rick was so jealous of Prince it is kind of sad. He could have put that energy into his own music. | |
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I should pick this up. Rick's life was so crazy and this part with Prince just adds on to it. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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npgee said: Thank god Mr. James taught him his trademarked hand to the ear thing.
We may never had heard about Prince. Whew!!!  "He's a musician's musician..." |
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First of all, Rick didn't even play the Bass lines on his own records.
Secondly, I'd bet it went down something like this: Prince probably kicked Rick's ass on the drums, if that ever even happened. Rick probably fronted like he was better. Prince, probably sensing that Rick had a problem with him, set out 2 show him that he could do whatever Rick was doing, and that's why he was mimicking some of his moves, if he was at all. If one looks at Prince's stage performing, he is very original, with some noticeable influences. I've seen Rick perform. Prince didn't get anything from him. U wanna talk about James Brown? Fine. Funny, I don't remember Rick jumping off pianos, landing in a split, and getting back 2 the mic just in time. Rick was never as dynamic nor athletic as Prince ever. "He's a musician's musician..." |
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Jude418 said: I still think Teena Marie and Jill Jones should co-author a book about those days.
I agree about Jill and Teena. That book would be hellified. I've had Rick's book for quite some time now and I do think it's a good read. I credit Rick for being honest about his jealousy of P. I was surprised to read Rick cop to that. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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laurarichardson said: violetblues said: lol, that is a great story,
so that's where Prince got that from! Rick James was right to be pissed,lol He would copy Rick's show and perform it before Rick! .....Prince is such a prick, lol The feminine little man he has some major balls tho! ----- Rick got a lot of stuff from JB and other R&B performers that came before him. The book is a good read but, Rick was so jealous of Prince it is kind of sad. He could have put that energy into his own music. Oh I'm sure there was jealousy, especially with a younger kid moving in on his turf, but I'm sure there was a kernel of truth to the story of Prince aping James's moves before his own set, which is funny as hell anyway. [Edited 3/6/08 10:45am] | |
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1duke said: Folks,
Rick James has an amusing Prince anecdote in his book, "The Confessions of Rick James: Memoirs of A Super Freak". It details the origins of their rivalry and other juicy details. Hint: it began when Rick James invited Prince to be his opening act during the FIRE IT UP tour. There's an article on this anecdote at http://www.thewowjonesreport.com Check it out when you can. -1duke Thanks. I admit the article is very interesting. Kinda makes you think. I knew Rick James didn't like Prince. Just watch the extended interview of Rick James response to Charlie Murphy's true hollywood stories on Season 2 DVD of Dave Chappelle. Life Is What You Make It... | |
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moderatorlaurarichardson said: violetblues said: lol, that is a great story,
so that's where Prince got that from! Rick James was right to be pissed,lol He would copy Rick's show and perform it before Rick! .....Prince is such a prick, lol The feminine little man he has some major balls tho! ----- Rick got a lot of stuff from JB and other R&B performers that came before him. The book is a good read but, Rick was so jealous of Prince it is kind of sad. He could have put that energy into his own music. | |
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i never saw rj do the splitz | |
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jackson35 said: WILL ALL OF YOU GIVE IT A REST PLEASE,RICK WAS SUCCESFUL BY THE TIME PRINCE GOT TO PURPLE RAIN, SO WHAT IN THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT.
In the words of Prince: "Why U screamin'?!" "Love Hurts. Your lies, they cut me. Now your words don't mean a thing. I don't give a damn if you ever loved me..." -Cher, "Woman's World" | |
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Giovanni777 said: First of all, Rick didn't even play the Bass lines on his own records.
Secondly, I'd bet it went down something like this: Prince probably kicked Rick's ass on the drums, if that ever even happened. Rick probably fronted like he was better. Prince, probably sensing that Rick had a problem with him, set out 2 show him that he could do whatever Rick was doing, and that's why he was mimicking some of his moves, if he was at all. If one looks at Prince's stage performing, he is very original, with some noticeable influences. I've seen Rick perform. Prince didn't get anything from him. U wanna talk about James Brown? Fine. HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE,RICK ACTUALY PLAYED DRUMS ON HIT RECORDS FOR MOTOWN BY THE TIME PRINCE GOT SIGN TO WARNERS. WHEN PRINCE AND RICK HIT THE ROAD TOGETHER, IT WAS A WRAP,RICK WAS KICKING PRINCES ASS EVERY NIGHT. I SHOULD KNOWN I BOOKED THAT TOUR FOR AL HAYMON.PRINCE WAS A NOBODY WHEN HE DID THIS TOUR, RICK WAS THE STAR REMEMBER THAT WHEN YOU HAVE ANOTHER OF THIS SILLY THREADS ABOUT WHOS BETTER. Funny, I don't remember Rick jumping off pianos, landing in a split, and getting back 2 the mic just in time. Rick was never as dynamic nor athletic as Prince ever. | |
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blackguitaristz said: Jude418 said: I still think Teena Marie and Jill Jones should co-author a book about those days.
I agree about Jill and Teena. That book would be hellified. I've had Rick's book for quite some time now and I do think it's a good read. I credit Rick for being honest about his jealousy of P. I was surprised to read Rick cop to that. Ya know I really wished Rick and Teena Marie would take on Jill (instead of she was under Prince who screwed her in the process) as a mentor and to this day I still don't understand why she didn't went to them as much as she was close to them especially Teena Marie. Unless she feared of pissed Prince off. She had the voice and looks too and she would done well had she been guidence under them . Too bad. [Edited 3/6/08 22:42pm] | |
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in the wowjones report, rick james mentions a band member named Levi?
is it the same Levi from the NPG? | |
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ReverendP said: in the wowjones report, rick james mentions a band member named Levi?
is it the same Levi from the NPG? Rick's Levi was his keyboard player & background singer, Levi Ruffin. I'm not too sure, but I think Levi is David Ruffin from the Temptations' nephew. JERKIN' EVERYTHING IN SIGHT!!!!! | |
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Paris9748430 said: ReverendP said: in the wowjones report, rick james mentions a band member named Levi?
is it the same Levi from the NPG? Rick's Levi was his keyboard player & background singer, Levi Ruffin. I'm not too sure, but I think Levi is David Ruffin from the Temptations' nephew. Thank you, Paris  | |
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xperience319 said: i just got that book!
$16 AUD!! Such a sweet deal, i'll be digging into it shortly! AWESOME cover pic too... it's too bad the book is so cheaply made. While I have a preview copy there really isn't any excuse for the way the Rick James book is presented. From the typesetting to the cheap black/white photos spread throughout the book, it simply screams amateur. --1 duke | |
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violetblues said: lol, that is a great story,
so that's where Prince got that from! Rick James was right to be pissed,lol He would copy Rick's show and perform it before Rick! .....Prince is such a prick, lol The feminine little man he has some major balls tho! yup, prince sure is BRAZEN. But we all know that by now... -1duke | |
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laurarichardson said: violetblues said: lol, that is a great story,
so that's where Prince got that from! Rick James was right to be pissed,lol He would copy Rick's show and perform it before Rick! .....Prince is such a prick, lol The feminine little man he has some major balls tho! ----- Rick got a lot of stuff from JB and other R&B performers that came before him. The book is a good read but, Rick was so jealous of Prince it is kind of sad. He could have put that energy into his own music. Yeah, Rick sure should have. Not for nothing, in the book Rick basically cops to his jealousy of Prince's career--mainly how HUGE Prince had gotten. The sales, the movies, etc... 1 duke | |
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purplecam said: I should pick this up. Rick's life was so crazy and this part with Prince just adds on to it.
there are a couple of references to prince in the rick james book. However, the excerpt posted in the wow jones report is a big one. there are many funny stories not included though. Including but not limited too how Rick James got his REVENGE on Prince for Prince's repertoire-biting, the time Rick James chased Prince throughout a party when Prince ran away in terror from Rick's mom upon meeting her, etc... | |
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