sosgemini said:

Oh, lawd. It wasn't until I saw the J-Hud pic that I got this.

Kissmequick said:

Just because she went to a wedding in a church doesn't mean she strayed. JW's make many decisions based on their conscience regarding something that's not straight forwardly forbidden in the Bible.

There is no example or suggestion in the Bible that says you cannot attend a non-JW's wedding in a church. Most JW's wouldn't go because #1, their own conscience may just not feel right about it and #2, it could stumble someone else such as a JW who might think it's wrong or someone that's not a JW and might see that as wrong too. Just like people here are calling it hypocritical when it's not just because another JW wouldn't do it.

We don't know all the details about Prince being at that party. Has it occurred to anyone that maybe he didn't know it was an actual birthday party? I don't know if that's the case but neither does anyone else here know that he did. Maybe he got there and realizing it was a birthday party he went up to another area where the festivities were not taking place. As another poster mentioned, maybe he really needed to see someone there. The fact he purposely went out of his way to not mingle shows he was not there in support of a birthday. Being in the same building where a bd party is not in itself wrong. I know many a JW's that gladly accept and eat left over birthday cake if a workmate brings it to work the next day. Some may not do it. It's not part of the celebration. It's up to someone's conscience.

there's just so many things we don't know the details too, being rude about his beliefs without knowing all the details is really lowclass.

rastoma said:

Prince didn't possbily know it was a BD party? Just like he didn't know he was attending a Maxim party a few years back? Riiiigght.

Being rude about other people's beliefs are just as lowclass and dude has made many PUBLIC remarks that were disrespectful to people of other faiths. He could have very well kept his religious affiliation under wraps but he did not and if he chooses to call someone out on something, he should be prepared to get call on stuff back.

Many of the Witnesses I know personally would not indulge in such a party, birthday or not.

Stymie said:

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Sorry but all Christians are suppose to witness to people. I don't think it is offensive if you do it the right way. I don't think JW's go about it the right way but I don't get offended if anyone of another religion tries to talk to me about it. They have their beliefs and I have mind and adults should be able to talk with out having a mental break down.

minneapolisgenius said:

Come on, we're all hypocrites, someone a little more, someone a little less. It's his preaching and his fame that bring his hypocrisy to the fore. Damn, I'm glad my actions aren't covered by the media or I would be swimming in dog poo...
[Edited 1/29/08 10:24am]

Kissmequick said:

Just because she went to a wedding in a church doesn't mean she strayed. JW's make many decisions based on their conscience regarding something that's not straight forwardly forbidden in the Bible.

There is no example or suggestion in the Bible that says you cannot attend a non-JW's wedding in a church. Most JW's wouldn't go because #1, their own conscience may just not feel right about it and #2, it could stumble someone else such as a JW who might think it's wrong or someone that's not a JW and might see that as wrong too. Just like people here are calling it hypocritical when it's not just because another JW wouldn't do it.

We don't know all the details about Prince being at that party. Has it occurred to anyone that maybe he didn't know it was an actual birthday party? I don't know if that's the case but neither does anyone else here know that he did. Maybe he got there and realizing it was a birthday party he went up to another area where the festivities were not taking place. As another poster mentioned, maybe he really needed to see someone there. The fact he purposely went out of his way to not mingle shows he was not there in support of a birthday. Being in the same building where a bd party is not in itself wrong. I know many a JW's that gladly accept and eat left over birthday cake if a workmate brings it to work the next day. Some may not do it. It's not part of the celebration. It's up to someone's conscience.

there's just so many things we don't know the details too, being rude about his beliefs without knowing all the details is really lowclass.

What a bunch of judgemental hypocrites. Yeah, that's right. YOU. I'm calling out all y'all...Stymie, SexyBeautifulOne, Sosgemini et al.
What?!? Y'all saying you'd have preferred baby brotha not to lick tasty cake off Mariah's boobies, huh?!!
Puh-lease. You'd be nibbling off with him, fighting all over the iceing and shit.

What a bunch of judgemental hypocrites. Yeah, that's right. YOU. I'm calling out all y'all...Stymie, SexyBeautifulOne, Sosgemini et al.
What?!? Y'all saying you'd have preferred baby brotha not to lick tasty cake off Mariah's boobies, huh?!!
Puh-lease. You'd be nibbling off with him, fighting all over the iceing and shit.

So it'd be cool with you if an Atheist for example wanted to converse with you about his/her beliefs? As an adult you would be able to handle that without having a mental breakdown, right? That's really open minded of you. I'm impressed.

laurarichardson said:

Kissmequick said:

Just because she went to a wedding in a church doesn't mean she strayed. JW's make many decisions based on their conscience regarding something that's not straight forwardly forbidden in the Bible.

There is no example or suggestion in the Bible that says you cannot attend a non-JW's wedding in a church. Most JW's wouldn't go because #1, their own conscience may just not feel right about it and #2, it could stumble someone else such as a JW who might think it's wrong or someone that's not a JW and might see that as wrong too. Just like people here are calling it hypocritical when it's not just because another JW wouldn't do it.

We don't know all the details about Prince being at that party. Has it occurred to anyone that maybe he didn't know it was an actual birthday party? I don't know if that's the case but neither does anyone else here know that he did. Maybe he got there and realizing it was a birthday party he went up to another area where the festivities were not taking place. As another poster mentioned, maybe he really needed to see someone there. The fact he purposely went out of his way to not mingle shows he was not there in support of a birthday. Being in the same building where a bd party is not in itself wrong. I know many a JW's that gladly accept and eat left over birthday cake if a workmate brings it to work the next day. Some may not do it. It's not part of the celebration. It's up to someone's conscience.

there's just so many things we don't know the details too, being rude about his beliefs without knowing all the details is really lowclass.

SexyBeautifulOne said:

Whatever his reason for being there though, in my opinion, it still doesn't look right.

I can understand playing a gig at a bd party, cause it's a job. Just like if a JW was working in a supermarket and the store sells cigarettes, it would be ridiculous to say, "I can't sell you cigs because I'm against people smoking". But this...

That's a matter between him and God and would be on his conscience. I guess he knows what his reasons were (I want to think the best).

wildgoldenhoney said:

Right! It doesn't look right! I love my mother to death..but when my relatives had a big 60th birthday party for her..I didn't attend. She know I love her and she understood! I tried to look at this from all different angles. Even if he was there for business it still looks bad...he could do that somewhere else!
I know that I don't know all the details but if he was there for business they could talk after the party somewhere else! I'm not trying to judge my brother..
I just think he is slippin! We all slip from time to time maybe not like this but some other fashion. That is why we ask Jehovah for forgiveness daily and try not to make the same mistakes!

AQUABOOGIE said:

Yes, we all make mistakes and bad decisions once in awhile but not for anyone to judge (definitely not me, I make tons of mistakes ).

Puleese JW's aren't any different from any other religion where this type of this is concerned. I worked with a woman who was a Witness and did not participate in any office holiday celebrations but did expect and accept the holiday monetary bonus that was given to employees.

As far as I can see this is no different than other Christians talking about being saved and so on and being "good Christians" and following their particular sects teachings, but still have sex out of wedlock and so on.

tst tst tst it just don't look right and #1 thing with this item is that Brother Nelson's presence at the Birthday Party is immature for a Christian has given a BAD WITNESS as this whole thread talks mostly about the contradiction between what Jehovah's Witnesses do and what Prince does.

Indeed we CANNOT judge, but we have opinions, in mine, Prince goofed up, if he still is a witness, which I start to seriously doubt!

Oh well...

I agree!

wildgoldenhoney said:

SCNDLS said:

I have been wondering where you was lady!!!

KidaDynamite said:

Hey, boo!

SOSGEMINI is merely making a statement of fact, NOT one that is 'judgemental' in nature.

Jehovah's Witnesses who are baptized are simply forbidden to celebrate birthdays (either their own or others) or attend birthday parties. This is so serious they can be excommunicated for it.

It is not a question of making a 'mistake' or being 'judgmental'. This is the equivalent of a Jewish person eating pork. For a person of that faith it is out of the question.

All SosGemini and others are attempting to do is make those not knowledgable about JW's aware of that fact.

OperatingThetan said:

i don't want to get too deep in this religion, i really care not to offend anyone...i just wanted to ask could it be that Prince like many Christians just does not follow or buy into all the rules. Perhaps after studying he made up his mind on certain aspects of it..or is there no such thing with JW. Like I said, I don't want to offend anyone, but I see often with other religions and I personally don't know of any JW so I ask.