L4OATheOriginal said:

copying james brown,sly stone...wow how original

mirrorbestfriend said:

I can see you have'nt had your plus sign today.

L4OATheOriginal said:

copying james brown,sly stone...wow how original

mirrorbestfriend said:

didn't that pedophile do the same? ..oh wait HE BOUGHT sly's catalogue that's right ..

You little bitches turned this into Prince vs MJ for no reason! How dare you shit on a serious thread like that? I never intended to create an MJ vs Prince thread! We're discussing music here and I requested for you to back up any disagreement with my statement with full blow facts! You MJ addicts have failed to do that and literally all I hear is "MJ I wann blow your quarter inch banana."

So far we had no valuable post disagreeing with my initial post. However, we did have intelligent posts backing up what I said.

Oh, and Madonna? Hahaha. That bitch can't sing, she doesn't play any instruments, she barely writes lyrics, she can't dance, so how is she musical? She had an image, she was hot, she was provocative, and she moved units. She Was never musical!

MJ is dope, no doubt about it. But he really only has 2 albums to his name, as I already mentioned before. Off The Wall and Thriller are all you need in you CD collection. He had other good songs on other albums, but collectively all his others efforts came short.

But NOBODY, NO FUCKIN BODY, dances like MJ. Best dencer EVER! That's a given.

L4OATheOriginal said:

yes he paid for it...prince just stole it

You little bitches turned this into Prince vs MJ for no reason! How dare you shit on a serious thread like that? I never intended to create an MJ vs Prince thread! We're discussing music here and I requested for you to back up any disagreement with my statement with full blow facts! You MJ addicts have failed to do that and literally all I hear is "MJ I wann blow your quarter inch banana."

So far we had no valuable post disagreeing with my initial post. However, we did have intelligent posts backing up what I said.

Oh, and Madonna? Hahaha. That bitch can't sing, she doesn't play any instruments, she barely writes lyrics, she can't dance, so how is she musical? She had an image, she was hot, she was provocative, and she moved units. She Was never musical!

MJ is dope, no doubt about it. But he really only has 2 albums to his name, as I already mentioned before. Off The Wall and Thriller are all you need in you CD collection. He had other good songs on other albums, but collectively all his others efforts came short.

But NOBODY, NO FUCKIN BODY, dances like MJ. Best dencer EVER! That's a given.

komputerbleu said:

I think the reason your thread devolved into Prince vs. MJ is mostly your fault. You claimed Prince was "bigger" in the 80's than everyone else. Yes, you said "musically", but that term didn't clarify the intent of your post. All it meant is that you didn't mean something like "cinematically". Point being--it was vague.

By saying "Nobody was bigger.." it inherently brings up the idea of record sales, awards, chart positions etc. People will take exeption to this because MJ had Prince licked when it comes to these areas in the 80's. Perhaps you should have said "better" more innovative, more sexy, or something instead of "bigger".
[Edited 1/11/08 8:58am]

skywalker said:

Of course he bloody clarified it - and I re-clarified it for you and everyone else with my first post. It said "nobody was bigger MUSICALLY" - how much more precise can it get? "Bigger" inherently covers a much larger scope than "better" - the latter would imply just skills, musicianship, whereas the former can include a range of things including styles covered etc.

The fault lies not with the kick drum or the saxophone but the dumbasses who seem to have a problem comprehending plain English and most the MJites who constantly bring it back to record sales. 2 MJ fans did that early on, even though there had been posts that had perfectly understood the thread and it basically descended from there.....

80s had the hairbands, the cheesy synth bands, and the awful boybands but they also gave birth to great post-punk bands, r&b artists, and electronic bands whose influence is still felt today.

Pop music was important in the 80s and it clearly defined the era of insane excess.

However, musically, I don't think ANY artist accomplished as much as Prince. He kept his street cred, fused so many different styles of music, made a hit movie, and defined the role of a producer/musician to the fullest.

With that said, I don't think any band/artist matches up to him in the 80s. MJ is a different breed of an artist and he's first an entertainer, then a musician. But even if we don't look at it that way, he only released two classics, Off The Wall and Thriller. Metallica were dope in the 80s, but their music didn't influence as many people as Prince's music has. I can say that The Cure and The Smiths had incredible music as well, but their depression only appealed to certain audiences. Prince had everyone rocking out to his music and he had every critic eating out of his hand. Depeche Mode was dope in this era too and so was Kate Bush, but they come short I believe. Hip-hop had Eric B & Rakim, Grandmaster Flash, BDP, and others, but this was still a baby genre.

Dirty Mind, 1999, Purple Rain, Around The World In A Day, Parade, Sign 'o' the Times and Lovesexy. What a fuckin' run! I'll even include the self-titled album in this as well, because I Wanna Be Your Lover, Sexy Dancer, Bambi and I Feel For You are still larger than life.

Prince appealed to the hipsters, those who loved the night life, gays, straight people, black, white, Asian, Latino, men, women, kids, and every critic and musician on planet Earth!

80's were singlehandedly dominated by Prince and if you don't think so, please explain yourself!
[Edited 1/6/08 15:00pm]

Jesus.....stop trying to re-write the 80's!

Michael Jackson is said to be the artist of that time by most people because that was indeed the case! I witnessed that whole era....evey which way you turned it was just Michael, Michael, Michael! He was the top male artist of that time to Madonna as the female top artist. Both these two were talked about and dissected like no other.

With that said, prince WAS NOT the top 80's male artist.

80s had the hairbands, the cheesy synth bands, and the awful boybands but they also gave birth to great post-punk bands, r&b artists, and electronic bands whose influence is still felt today.

Pop music was important in the 80s and it clearly defined the era of insane excess.

However, musically, I don't think ANY artist accomplished as much as Prince. He kept his street cred, fused so many different styles of music, made a hit movie, and defined the role of a producer/musician to the fullest.

With that said, I don't think any band/artist matches up to him in the 80s. MJ is a different breed of an artist and he's first an entertainer, then a musician. But even if we don't look at it that way, he only released two classics, Off The Wall and Thriller. Metallica were dope in the 80s, but their music didn't influence as many people as Prince's music has. I can say that The Cure and The Smiths had incredible music as well, but their depression only appealed to certain audiences. Prince had everyone rocking out to his music and he had every critic eating out of his hand. Depeche Mode was dope in this era too and so was Kate Bush, but they come short I believe. Hip-hop had Eric B & Rakim, Grandmaster Flash, BDP, and others, but this was still a baby genre.

Dirty Mind, 1999, Purple Rain, Around The World In A Day, Parade, Sign 'o' the Times and Lovesexy. What a fuckin' run! I'll even include the self-titled album in this as well, because I Wanna Be Your Lover, Sexy Dancer, Bambi and I Feel For You are still larger than life.

Prince appealed to the hipsters, those who loved the night life, gays, straight people, black, white, Asian, Latino, men, women, kids, and every critic and musician on planet Earth!

80's were singlehandedly dominated by Prince and if you don't think so, please explain yourself!
[Edited 1/6/08 15:00pm]

there were plenty of people who were bigger than prince in the 80s and i would known ive booked and promoted their shows.

ReggaeQueen said:

No doubt that Michael Jackson was the "Biggest"(most popular)thing then ...BUT,Prince was the baddest,coolest,most creative & versatile & he didnt take the easy route by being too commercial(MJ).& he was the most hated & not PG like all the others(ruling out a massive potential fanbase).He was up against all odds!!!He took chances,defied conventional wisdom,gambled,challenged himself and kicked ass in the process."kiss"no bassline! "If i was your girlfriend"who else would've touched that song? "when doves cry"a song with only 3 instruments playing but funky like a septic tank! Who else on earth does rock,funk,gospel,r&b...play all instruments in each style better than many artiste who master just one???? Now tell something about MJ other than marketing !

skywalker said:

Of course he bloody clarified it - and I re-clarified it for you and everyone else with my first post. It said "nobody was bigger MUSICALLY" - how much more precise can it get? "Bigger" inherently covers a much larger scope than "better" - the latter would imply just skills, musicianship, whereas the former can include a range of things including styles covered etc.

The fault lies not with the kick drum or the saxophone but the dumbasses who seem to have a problem comprehending plain English and most the MJites who constantly bring it back to record sales. 2 MJ fans did that early on, even though there had been posts that had perfectly understood the thread and it basically descended from there.....

skywalker said:

Of course he bloody clarified it - and I re-clarified it for you and everyone else with my first post. It said "nobody was bigger MUSICALLY" - how much more precise can it get? "Bigger" inherently covers a much larger scope than "better" - the latter would imply just skills, musicianship, whereas the former can include a range of things including styles covered etc.

The fault lies not with the kick drum or the saxophone but the dumbasses who seem to have a problem comprehending plain English and most the MJites who constantly bring it back to record sales. 2 MJ fans did that early on, even though there had been posts that had perfectly understood the thread and it basically descended from there.....

komputerbleu said:

I think the reason your thread devolved into Prince vs. MJ is mostly your fault. You claimed Prince was "bigger" in the 80's than everyone else. Yes, you said "musically", but that term didn't clarify the intent of your post. All it meant is that you didn't mean something like "cinematically". Point being--it was vague.

By saying "Nobody was bigger.." it inherently brings up the idea of record sales, awards, chart positions etc. People will take exeption to this because MJ had Prince licked when it comes to these areas in the 80's. Perhaps you should have said "better" more innovative, more sexy, or something instead of "bigger".[/b]
[Edited 1/11/08 8:58am][/b]

80s had the hairbands, the cheesy synth bands, and the awful boybands but they also gave birth to great post-punk bands, r&b artists, and electronic bands whose influence is still felt today.

Pop music was important in the 80s and it clearly defined the era of insane excess.

However, musically, I don't think ANY artist accomplished as much as Prince. He kept his street cred, fused so many different styles of music, made a hit movie, and defined the role of a producer/musician to the fullest.

With that said, I don't think any band/artist matches up to him in the 80s. MJ is a different breed of an artist and he's first an entertainer, then a musician. But even if we don't look at it that way, he only released two classics, Off The Wall and Thriller. Metallica were dope in the 80s, but their music didn't influence as many people as Prince's music has. I can say that The Cure and The Smiths had incredible music as well, but their depression only appealed to certain audiences. Prince had everyone rocking out to his music and he had every critic eating out of his hand. Depeche Mode was dope in this era too and so was Kate Bush, but they come short I believe. Hip-hop had Eric B & Rakim, Grandmaster Flash, BDP, and others, but this was still a baby genre.

Dirty Mind, 1999, Purple Rain, Around The World In A Day, Parade, Sign 'o' the Times and Lovesexy. What a fuckin' run! I'll even include the self-titled album in this as well, because I Wanna Be Your Lover, Sexy Dancer, Bambi and I Feel For You are still larger than life.

Prince appealed to the hipsters, those who loved the night life, gays, straight people, black, white, Asian, Latino, men, women, kids, and every critic and musician on planet Earth!

80's were singlehandedly dominated by Prince and if you don't think so, please explain yourself!
[Edited 1/6/08 15:00pm]

komputerbleu said:

I agree, but to be honest the 80s weren't all that though...