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Thread started 12/31/07 9:39am

Whitnail

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Poor Teddyblackface....

Hey, why is that thread locked, I thought it was brilliant, all my asylum inmates spent the night talking about him and writing poetry in his honour and tonite we are having a Teddyblackface fancy dress to ring in the new year sad
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Reply #1 posted 12/31/07 9:45am

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The concensus here is that "he's Prince"! lol
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Reply #2 posted 12/31/07 9:46am

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Whitnail said:

Hey, why is that thread locked, I thought it was brilliant, all my asylum inmates spent the night talking about him and writing poetry in his honour and tonite we are having a Teddyblackface fancy dress to ring in the new year sad

The Moderator explained at the end of thread why it was locked:

http://prince.org/msg/7/256548?&pg=2
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Reply #3 posted 12/31/07 9:55am

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langebleu said:

Whitnail said:

Hey, why is that thread locked, I thought it was brilliant, all my asylum inmates spent the night talking about him and writing poetry in his honour and tonite we are having a Teddyblackface fancy dress to ring in the new year sad

The Moderator explained at the end of thread why it was locked:

http://prince.org/msg/7/256548?&pg=2



I know, coz it was silly, but there aint nothing wrong with a laugh or not? wink

PS I agree it was a totally daft thread, but if it brings a smile to someones face, well it has done no harm biggrin, although I find it being locked even funnier
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Reply #4 posted 12/31/07 10:08am

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Whitnail said:

langebleu said:


The Moderator explained at the end of thread why it was locked:

http://prince.org/msg/7/256548?&pg=2



I know, coz it was silly, but there aint nothing wrong with a laugh or not? wink

PS I agree it was a totally daft thread, but if it brings a smile to someones face, well it has done no harm biggrin, although I find it being locked even funnier

Or how about the original poster, hijacking it?
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Reply #5 posted 12/31/07 10:10am

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wildgoldenhoney said:

The concensus here is that "he's Prince"! lol


But thanks for starting another thread about TeddyBlackFace. We still need to get down to the bottom of this. biggrin razz wink lol




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Reply #6 posted 12/31/07 10:20am

Whitnail

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wildgoldenhoney said:

wildgoldenhoney said:

The concensus here is that "he's Prince"! lol (or one of his trolls rolleyes ):


But thanks for starting another thread about TeddyBlackFace. We still need to get down to the bottom of this. biggrin razz wink lol




(edit happy faces) razz
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The bigger question is why was Teddyblackface made a thread in Prince: Music and More, I am sure there is some hidden meaning to it, razz wink
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Reply #7 posted 12/31/07 1:09pm

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Whitnail said:

wildgoldenhoney said:



But thanks for starting another thread about TeddyBlackFace. We still need to get down to the bottom of this. biggrin razz wink lol




(edit happy faces) razz
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The bigger question is why was Teddyblackface made a thread in Prince: Music and More, I am sure there is some hidden meaning to it, razz wink


very sad indeed that such discourse takes place at the org. looked at the original thread and saw the minstrel as well. comes down to racism. go 'head y'all, enjoy yourselves, and reveal your true colours some more. some 1 once got accused of racism for referring to Prince as a "brother" LOL, but undercover racism is overlooked as jokes. no wonder Prince doesn't play with so-called "fansites" anymore.
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Reply #8 posted 12/31/07 1:23pm

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LaLaLaHeeHeeHee said:

Whitnail said:




The bigger question is why was Teddyblackface made a thread in Prince: Music and More, I am sure there is some hidden meaning to it, razz wink


very sad indeed that such discourse takes place at the org. looked at the original thread and saw the minstrel as well. comes down to racism. go 'head y'all, enjoy yourselves, and reveal your true colours some more. some 1 once got accused of racism for referring to Prince as a "brother" LOL, but undercover racism is overlooked as jokes. no wonder Prince doesn't play with so-called "fansites" anymore.

The thing with Teddyblackface is there is a user with this name that is orgnoting people mysteriously. The notes seem to make some think that it is Prince because he says things like "eye am he".... and "thank you for you kind words" when the person makes a nice comment about Prince. That's what this is about.

He only orgnotes, but never posts. Here is the profile:
http://prince.org/profile...yblackface
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Reply #9 posted 12/31/07 1:25pm

sexxydancer

Will somebody please tell me what's going on here?!?! lol
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Reply #10 posted 12/31/07 1:25pm

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razz Yeah, I know, I'm an instigator. razz
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Reply #11 posted 12/31/07 1:32pm

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wildgoldenhoney said:

LaLaLaHeeHeeHee said:



very sad indeed that such discourse takes place at the org. looked at the original thread and saw the minstrel as well. comes down to racism. go 'head y'all, enjoy yourselves, and reveal your true colours some more. some 1 once got accused of racism for referring to Prince as a "brother" LOL, but undercover racism is overlooked as jokes. no wonder Prince doesn't play with so-called "fansites" anymore.

The thing with Teddyblackface is there is a user with this name that is orgnoting people mysteriously. The notes seem to make some think that it is Prince because he says things like "eye am he".... and "thank you for you kind words" when the person makes a nice comment about Prince. That's what this is about.

He only orgnotes, but never posts. Here is the profile:
http://prince.org/profile...yblackface


thanks for taking the time to explain. i prefer the "love" in your signature more than even seeing the username of this so-called user. i think had the colour been reversed in the name used in the thread, it might not have lasted as long and many ppl would have been offended. but the name is "black" face, so ...

also, in the original thread, there was a minstrel. any one who knows the history behind that knows how embedded in racism it is. anyway, let freedom of speech reign and I personally request that the mods not let this thread also degenerate like the original one.

the intention behind it is fishy. it is easy for some people to throw stones, even though they live in glass houses.
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LaLaLaHeeHeeHee said:

Whitnail said:




The bigger question is why was Teddyblackface made a thread in Prince: Music and More, I am sure there is some hidden meaning to it, razz wink


very sad indeed that such discourse takes place at the org. looked at the original thread and saw the minstrel as well. comes down to racism. go 'head y'all, enjoy yourselves, and reveal your true colours some more. some 1 once got accused of racism for referring to Prince as a "brother" LOL, but undercover racism is overlooked as jokes. no wonder Prince doesn't play with so-called "fansites" anymore.



That is without doubt the most insulting post I have read here, but goes to show if you dig deep enough into anything, you can justify calling people whatever you want
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Reply #13 posted 12/31/07 1:38pm

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Whitnail said:

LaLaLaHeeHeeHee said:



very sad indeed that such discourse takes place at the org. looked at the original thread and saw the minstrel as well. comes down to racism. go 'head y'all, enjoy yourselves, and reveal your true colours some more. some 1 once got accused of racism for referring to Prince as a "brother" LOL, but undercover racism is overlooked as jokes. no wonder Prince doesn't play with so-called "fansites" anymore.



That is without doubt the most insulting post I have read here, but goes to show if you dig deep enough into anything, you can justify calling people whatever you want


if u live in glass house, do not throw stones. in addition, isn't the notion that true bigots love Prince's music a true case of post-modernism?
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LaLaLaHeeHeeHee said:

wildgoldenhoney said:


The thing with Teddyblackface is there is a user with this name that is orgnoting people mysteriously. The notes seem to make some think that it is Prince because he says things like "eye am he".... and "thank you for you kind words" when the person makes a nice comment about Prince. That's what this is about.

He only orgnotes, but never posts. Here is the profile:
http://prince.org/profile...yblackface


thanks for taking the time to explain. i prefer the "love" in your signature more than even seeing the username of this so-called user. i think had the colour been reversed in the name used in the thread, it might not have lasted as long and many ppl would have been offended. but the name is "black" face, so ...

also, in the original thread, there was a minstrel. any one who knows the history behind that knows how embedded in racism it is. anyway, let freedom of speech reign and I personally request that the mods not let this thread also degenerate like the original one.

the intention behind it is fishy. it is easy for some people to throw stones, even though they live in glass houses.


ah ok, i see your point, i didnt even think of it like that but you are right. Reminds me of when I as 13, i had posters of prince on my wall, like any kid would of their musical hero, anyway one evening, an older relation of mine was in the room, and he turned to me and said, Prince is a ....., was odd coz it was the first time I actually noticed that he was coloured but it did shatter a certain colour blindness that i had, it was almost like losing a certain part of childhood. Not sure if that makes any sense.
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Reply #15 posted 12/31/07 1:50pm

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Whitnail said:

LaLaLaHeeHeeHee said:



thanks for taking the time to explain. i prefer the "love" in your signature more than even seeing the username of this so-called user. i think had the colour been reversed in the name used in the thread, it might not have lasted as long and many ppl would have been offended. but the name is "black" face, so ...

also, in the original thread, there was a minstrel. any one who knows the history behind that knows how embedded in racism it is. anyway, let freedom of speech reign and I personally request that the mods not let this thread also degenerate like the original one.

the intention behind it is fishy. it is easy for some people to throw stones, even though they live in glass houses.


ah ok, i see your point, i didnt even think of it like that but you are right. Reminds me of when I as 13, i had posters of prince on my wall, like any kid would of their musical hero, anyway one evening, an older relation of mine was in the room, and he turned to me and said, Prince is a ....., was odd coz it was the first time I actually noticed that he was coloured but it did shatter a certain colour blindness that i had, it was almost like losing a certain part of childhood. Not sure if that makes any sense.


ahhh, colourblindness (people call me rude, i wish...)
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LaLaLaHeeHeeHee said:

Whitnail said:



ah ok, i see your point, i didnt even think of it like that but you are right. Reminds me of when I as 13, i had posters of prince on my wall, like any kid would of their musical hero, anyway one evening, an older relation of mine was in the room, and he turned to me and said, Prince is a ....., was odd coz it was the first time I actually noticed that he was coloured but it did shatter a certain colour blindness that i had, it was almost like losing a certain part of childhood. Not sure if that makes any sense.


ahhh, colourblindness (people call me rude, i wish...)



Anything else you wish to call me? or is racial bigot enough.....but I seriously think you should find abit more out about people before you start calling them such, just my racist bigoted opinion BTW
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Reply #17 posted 12/31/07 2:09pm

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this question is better suited for the site discussion forum folks...
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Reply #18 posted 12/31/07 2:13pm

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Theo went down to the general store
Then he forgot what the hell he went there for
His mind was blown as was his nose
He got a funky feeling and started to wiggle his toes
Then his whole body rocked and and his backbone slipped
He bounced to and fro then he did the dip
Right about then an angel came to take Teddy but he resisted
He "tell that motherfucker up in heaven that I ain't ready to visit"
Then the Devil rose up and grabbed Ted by the throat
They sailed off into the sunset in Satan's big red boat.
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johnnyreeferseed said:

Theo went down to the general store
Then he forgot what the hell he went there for
His mind was blown as was his nose
He got a funky feeling and started to wiggle his toes
Then his whole body rocked and and his backbone slipped
He bounced to and fro then he did the dip
Right about then, and angel came to take Teddy but he resisted
He "tell that motherfucker up in heaven that I ain't ready to visit"
Then the Devil rose up and grabbed Ted by the throat
They sailed off into the sunset in Satan's big red boat.



falloff

shit, i wish I had some highgrade now, from the blue mountains,

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Wait a minute.... so Lalalaheeheehee thought that we made up the name "Teddyblackface" as a nickname for Prince?
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Reply #21 posted 12/31/07 4:31pm

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Lucifer had all kinda ho's on his ship
Teddy got so hard he 'bout lost his grip
Then comes Johnny with a 6 foot blunt
Say's "go Teddy, go, light that motherfucker up"
Now the party's fittin' to start for real
Who's boards the boat? It's Ron Popeil
"Fuckin A" Ted says. "What's up Ron"
Let's grab these bitches and start gettin' it on.



just chill, til the next episode
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Reply #22 posted 12/31/07 4:39pm

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Reply #23 posted 12/31/07 5:08pm

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johnnyreeferseed said:

Lucifer had all kinda ho's on his ship
Teddy got so hard he 'bout lost his grip
Then comes Johnny with a 6 foot blunt
Say's "go Teddy, go, light that motherfucker up"
Now the party's fittin' to start for real
Who's boards the boat? It's Ron Popeil
"Fuckin A" Ted says. "What's up Ron"
Let's grab these bitches and start gettin' it on.



just chill, til the next episode



yep, the infamous Camberwell carrot, one needs to utilize at least 21 skins in production. Was invented in camberwell and is shaped like a 6 foot carrot, with only one purpose in its existence, to ensure you can see in the dark, cool
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Reply #24 posted 12/31/07 7:28pm

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So ignorant. confused
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Reply #26 posted 12/31/07 8:17pm

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wildgoldenhoney said:

LaLaLaHeeHeeHee said:



very sad indeed that such discourse takes place at the org. looked at the original thread and saw the minstrel as well. comes down to racism. go 'head y'all, enjoy yourselves, and reveal your true colours some more. some 1 once got accused of racism for referring to Prince as a "brother" LOL, but undercover racism is overlooked as jokes. no wonder Prince doesn't play with so-called "fansites" anymore.

The thing with Teddyblackface is there is a user with this name that is orgnoting people mysteriously. The notes seem to make some think that it is Prince because he says things like "eye am he".... and "thank you for you kind words" when the person makes a nice comment about Prince. That's what this is about.

He only orgnotes, but never posts. Here is the profile:
http://prince.org/profile...yblackface


it's somebody pulling everybody's leg .. Prince gonna just sit online and randomly orgnote folks?? No, he wouldnt... there are ppl online who enjoy pretending to be him and randomly send orgnotes.. it's not Prince ..
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Reply #27 posted 12/31/07 9:39pm

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As the original poster, please let me apologize for ruffling feathers....frankly, I'm a bit surprised and dissapointed that this issue has not previously been raised since the name "TeddyBlackFace" (TBF) has been used several times in the four (4) months since I've been a member and I would imagine many times prior to my membership and this post.

Nevertheless, I feel compelled to explain the intent of my TBF thread since there is discourse and speculation concerning the content.

First, however, as a new Orger, and since I am a black woman, I was surprised and offended, to say the least, to hear the username "TeddyBlackFace" bantered around a couple months ago. But, being new to the Org. I assumed that the discussion we are now having had already taken place and that there was some common understanding amongst Orgers of its use. How would I know differently? The name has been used on the Org prior to my membership.

However, when it was again mentioned last week in a couple threads, and it was said that Orgers thought it might be Prince, I again questioned its use. I was both offended by its use (because of what I understand BlackFace to mean) and the implication that someone would falsely lead people to believe Prince would use this as a screen name. For the record, I do not believe it is Prince.

The term "BlackFace" in today's world is used both as the name of a music group and as a descriptor of the historical minstrel shows. It is for that reason that I or anyone cannot truly identify if "TeddyBlackFace" is a racial slur or if the Orger is making some other kind of statement or just didn't know.

I decided to craft a discussion about this phantom "TeddyBlackFace," both to understand/identify the Org Members' acceptance of this name (since none had apparently complained previously); and to determine if in fact it was prince.

I started the thread is response to the questions asked in the thread last week--I offered other Orgers the option of determining just who TBF is, (was he a good character, a bad character, a singer, dancer, teacher, truck driver, mechanic, fantasy or reality?). This also provided the option of creating a character that was acceptable and could be viewed in terms other than the minstrel role. There was no response, so I continued with a complimentary description.

It should be noted that it is possible someone could be unaware of the derogatory nature of such a name, especially if they grew up in a foreign country where the historical scars of slavery in America are not a part of their history. (At this point, I was not drawing any conclusions, just gathering information.) Again, for all I know, I may have been the only person offended.

Then another Orger added a statement referring to his or my sanity returning. I viewed that comment as rather telling. It was then that I added more to the story. Offering an explanation of why the character was called "TeddyBlackFace". (He got into a fight and lit the guy up--the ashes were on his face.) Not so much in a minstrel sense.

Then an Orger posted a blackface picture. I felt that, that and similar displays would serve to answer the question of who TBF really was.

Furthermore, during the discussion, the Orger who calls him/herself TBF sent an orgpop note to me asking why I called him/her a troll. Having read the discourse of another Org member and overlooking that point, implies that the Orger is fully aware of the derogatory nature of his/her screen name and doesn't care. To me this confirmed that it was NOT Prince.

Then banter began about the orgnotes and orgpops all the while, however, the Ogers involved continued to imply that it was Prince.

It was then that I withdrew myself from the conversation and decided to erase the thread.

Be that as it may, the screen name TeddyBlackFace is derogatory and I respectfully request that it be banned from further use.

I hope this clarifies my intentions.


For more information about "BlackFace:" http://www.youtube.com/wa...NioUtaDKLg

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Reply #28 posted 12/31/07 10:39pm

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langebleu said:

The Moderator explained at the end of thread why it was locked:

http://prince.org/msg/7/256548?&pg=2


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