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Reply #30 posted 12/11/07 7:25am

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Whitnail said:

Can anyone give me abit more info on the NYC live tape, when was it recorded, was it a tv recording or boot?

The version I have on vid is the Chris Rock one, I think, where he wears a light brown coat.

And where did the remixes appear from, as I dont seem to have them either, all info greatly appreciated wink



it was done on january 11th 1997 at the roseland ballroom. the live version complete is circulating, prince took the intro of jam of the year and sliced it 2gether with face down in edited form. if u have seen the somebody's somebody video, when prince is in a lime green outfit with the one eyed bass, that's him doing face down.

the chris rock show per4mance is lip synched from this concert
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #31 posted 12/11/07 9:17am

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June7 said:

I also think he's talking shit about Michael Jackson in it. The lyric, "you gotta be a Prince before you're King anyway" as well as some other references makes me think he's slammin' MJ in some way (wasn't Mike married to Lisa Marie - Elvis' daughter - during this time frame???)...

I forget the other lyrics that make me think that, and I think I got the one I quoted correct... but, take a listen and see what you think....

Anyone?



that lyric you quoted is from "my name is prince" not face down, if Im not mistaken. And it is a pop at MJ who thinks he is king of pop

Oops! redface My bad. lol

yeah... that's what I thought.
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Reply #32 posted 12/11/07 9:44am

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I totally love this song. I saw the performance he did on the Chris Rock show. He was very aggressive and displayed a lot of attitude. That shit was tight. Wish I had the NY version u guy’s talk about lol
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Reply #33 posted 12/11/07 6:14pm

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I love that song! I saw the "Jam of the Year" tour (and subsequent shows) 11 times!!
During that time, I freaked excited every time I heard that song! I once bribed the guard (NJ: PNC Bank Arts Center,'97) into letting me go down to the stage for the bass solo (left speaker, 7th song in the set! giggle) because I bought a giant ACE card from "Party City", and when Prince said, "Next time U pull a card it better be an ace..." I stuck it up in his face! eek
Prince just looked down and smirked!
Okay, okay, I was younger, and still famming out... now I'd bitchfight anyone I caught doing that! lol

Also, a friend of mine "collects music" lurking, so for my 30th birthday, he made me a tape called "Face Down at 30" with live versions of the song from the "Jam of the Year" tour all over the country. Some of them were really hot! I think my fave was Moline. headbang

Oh! and I was at the NYC show... thumbs up!
[Edited 12/11/07 18:15pm]

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Reply #34 posted 12/12/07 7:18am

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chocolate1 said:

I love that song! I saw the "Jam of the Year" tour (and subsequent shows) 11 times!!
During that time, I freaked excited every time I heard that song! I once bribed the guard (NJ: PNC Bank Arts Center,'97) into letting me go down to the stage for the bass solo (left speaker, 7th song in the set! giggle) because I bought a giant ACE card from "Party City", and when Prince said, "Next time U pull a card it better be an ace..." I stuck it up in his face! eek
Prince just looked down and smirked
!
Okay, okay, I was younger, and still famming out... now I'd bitchfight anyone I caught doing that! lol

Also, a friend of mine "collects music" lurking, so for my 30th birthday, he made me a tape called "Face Down at 30" with live versions of the song from the "Jam of the Year" tour all over the country. Some of them were really hot! I think my fave was Moline. headbang

Oh! and I was at the NYC show... thumbs up!
[Edited 12/11/07 18:15pm]


i was there at that show and commented 2 my cousin when we saw ur card that that was cool ..i wonder if it is on my tape of that show boxed
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #35 posted 12/12/07 7:27am

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Just like Elvis is a ref 2 Elvis is 1969 when his career was supposed 2 be washed up. Elvis had a big come back with his TV special. Prince a washed up singer? Don't think so.....just like ELVIS.
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Reply #36 posted 12/12/07 7:30am

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Graycap23 said:

Just like Elvis is a ref 2 Elvis is 1969 when his career was supposed 2 be washed up. Elvis had a big come back with his TV special. Prince a washed up singer? Don't think so.....just like ELVIS.


if he keeps putting out shit tracks like that on PE, the lawsuits etc ..oh yeah he just might end up being a washed up singer 4 sho
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #37 posted 12/12/07 7:49am

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L4OATheOriginal said:

Graycap23 said:

Just like Elvis is a ref 2 Elvis is 1969 when his career was supposed 2 be washed up. Elvis had a big come back with his TV special. Prince a washed up singer? Don't think so.....just like ELVIS.


if he keeps putting out shit tracks like that on PE, the lawsuits etc ..oh yeah he just might end up being a washed up singer 4 sho

Ouch....
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Reply #38 posted 12/12/07 7:15pm

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L4OATheOriginal said:

chocolate1 said:

I love that song! I saw the "Jam of the Year" tour (and subsequent shows) 11 times!!
During that time, I freaked excited every time I heard that song! I once bribed the guard (NJ: PNC Bank Arts Center,'97) into letting me go down to the stage for the bass solo (left speaker, 7th song in the set! giggle) because I bought a giant ACE card from "Party City", and when Prince said, "Next time U pull a card it better be an ace..." I stuck it up in his face! eek
Prince just looked down and smirked
!
Okay, okay, I was younger, and still famming out... now I'd bitchfight anyone I caught doing that! lol

Also, a friend of mine "collects music" lurking, so for my 30th birthday, he made me a tape called "Face Down at 30" with live versions of the song from the "Jam of the Year" tour all over the country. Some of them were really hot! I think my fave was Moline. headbang

Oh! and I was at the NYC show... thumbs up!
[Edited 12/11/07 18:15pm]


i was there at that show and commented 2 my cousin when we saw ur card that that was cool ..i wonder if it is on my tape of that show boxed



Thanks!
I look back on it like redface, but at the time I thought I was the coolest one there! lol

"Love Hurts.
Your lies, they cut me.
Now your words don't mean a thing.
I don't give a damn if you ever loved me..."

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Reply #39 posted 12/13/07 12:59am

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cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool
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Reply #40 posted 12/13/07 10:49am

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chocolate1 said:

L4OATheOriginal said:



i was there at that show and commented 2 my cousin when we saw ur card that that was cool ..i wonder if it is on my tape of that show boxed



Thanks!
I look back on it like redface, but at the time I thought I was the coolest one there! lol



did u go 2 the afterparty at tramps afterwards?
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #41 posted 12/13/07 12:36pm

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L4OATheOriginal said:

chocolate1 said:




Thanks!
I look back on it like redface, but at the time I thought I was the coolest one there! lol



did u go 2 the afterparty at tramps afterwards?


No, unfortunately, those were the days before I was really hip to afterparties/shows.
The 1st one I ever attended was after the Core States show in Philly '97 (Club Egypt), two months before that, but didn't really get it yet.
The one after the Essence Awards at Irving Plaza in '98 CHANGED MY LIFE! omfg Now U can't drag me away! lol

"Love Hurts.
Your lies, they cut me.
Now your words don't mean a thing.
I don't give a damn if you ever loved me..."

-Cher, "Woman's World"
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Reply #42 posted 12/13/07 11:24pm

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just watched the video (which is hilarious and one of his coolest, imo) and the chris rock performance. who knew prince was such a "thug". always loved this song. making fun of/emulating "gangster rap" and just kind of having fun being a smart ass. i like this side of him.
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Reply #43 posted 12/14/07 12:29pm

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I like the way he did it on the Chris Rock Show. cool
Some people think I'm kinda cute
But that don't compute when it comes 2 Y-O-U.
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Reply #44 posted 12/15/07 12:21am

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One of Prince's few angry sounding songs. I like Face Down alot. Always have since I bought Emancipation back in 1996. Face Down caught my attention immediately. I love the "dead like Elvis sample." I love how he calls out the instruments he wants to hear HORN! BASS! ORCHESTRA! Face Down was one of Prince's better attempts at making a decent rap song. The song is menacing, bitter and theatrical but is never over the top and silly. I saw the Chris Rock performance too along time ago. Saw it again recently thank god for youtube and the internet!!! It was good I like when he plays the horn riff on the piano and gives it that funky honky tonk sound. I'm guessing he probably wrote this during the Chaos and Disorder sessions, it just seems to fit the unhappy, bitter,and angry mood he was in then.
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Reply #45 posted 12/15/07 9:49am

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deadonit said:

One of Prince's few angry sounding songs. I like Face Down alot. Always have since I bought Emancipation back in '96. Face Down caught my attention immediatley. I love the "dead like Elvis sample." I love how he calls out the instruments he wants to hear HORN! BASS! ORCHESTRA! Face Down was one of the Prince's better attempts at making a listenable rap song. The song is menacing, bitter and theatrical but is never over the top and silly. I saw the Chris Rock performance too. It was good I like when he plays the horn riff on the piano and gives it that funky honky tonk sound. I'm guessing he probably wrote this during the Chaos and Disorder sessions, it just seems to fit the unhappy, bitter,and angry mood he was in then.[Edited 12/15/07 0:24am]



True, I was never really sure why it ended up on emancipation, apart from the fact that he had set himself free, but somehow it does not really fit into the vibe of emancipation
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Reply #46 posted 12/15/07 12:12pm

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Whitnail said:

deadonit said:

One of Prince's few angry sounding songs. I like Face Down alot. Always have since I bought Emancipation back in '96. Face Down caught my attention immediatley. I love the "dead like Elvis sample." I love how he calls out the instruments he wants to hear HORN! BASS! ORCHESTRA! Face Down was one of the Prince's better attempts at making a listenable rap song. The song is menacing, bitter and theatrical but is never over the top and silly. I saw the Chris Rock performance too. It was good I like when he plays the horn riff on the piano and gives it that funky honky tonk sound. I'm guessing he probably wrote this during the Chaos and Disorder sessions, it just seems to fit the unhappy, bitter,and angry mood he was in then.[Edited 12/15/07 0:24am]



True, I was never really sure why it ended up on emancipation, apart from the fact that he had set himself free, but somehow it does not really fit into the vibe of emancipation

It wasn't about the vibe. It was about being free from WB and letting them KNOW that he was NOT dead and in fact very ALIVE.
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Reply #47 posted 12/17/07 8:57am

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chocolate1 said:

L4OATheOriginal said:




did u go 2 the afterparty at tramps afterwards?


No, unfortunately, those were the days before I was really hip to afterparties/shows.
The 1st one I ever attended was after the Core States show in Philly '97 (Club Egypt), two months before that, but didn't really get it yet.
The one after the Essence Awards at Irving Plaza in '98 CHANGED MY LIFE! omfg Now U can't drag me away! lol


i didn't go 2 that one but if it wasn't 4 dougie fresh, there would have been a riot that night
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #48 posted 12/18/07 4:48pm

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L4OATheOriginal said:

chocolate1 said:



No, unfortunately, those were the days before I was really hip to afterparties/shows.
The 1st one I ever attended was after the Core States show in Philly '97 (Club Egypt), two months before that, but didn't really get it yet.
The one after the Essence Awards at Irving Plaza in '98 CHANGED MY LIFE! omfg Now U can't drag me away! lol


i didn't go 2 that one but if it wasn't 4 dougie fresh, there would have been a riot that night


That was some nite! I had a ball! nod
Dougie stepped on my leg at some point! lol I was sitting on the floor (sheer exhaustion) and he came in and didn't see me down there! omfg

Like I said... changed my life! Now I HAVE to get to every aftergig I can! biggrin

"Love Hurts.
Your lies, they cut me.
Now your words don't mean a thing.
I don't give a damn if you ever loved me..."

-Cher, "Woman's World"
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Reply #49 posted 12/19/07 7:30am

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chocolate1 said:

L4OATheOriginal said:



i didn't go 2 that one but if it wasn't 4 dougie fresh, there would have been a riot that night


That was some nite! I had a ball! nod
Dougie stepped on my leg at some point! lol I was sitting on the floor (sheer exhaustion) and he came in and didn't see me down there! omfg

Like I said... changed my life! Now I HAVE to get to every aftergig I can! biggrin


well if the main shows contine 2 support the old material, then the after gigs would b the spot 2 go 2 get the new stuff or rare stuff
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #50 posted 12/19/07 7:33am

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Prince look's out of his comfort zone...I think its crap!!
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Reply #51 posted 12/21/07 12:48pm

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Prince was really angry when he made this song, I think it's hilarious! smile


[Edited 12/10/07 4:56am]


For real. But he is so sexy when he's mad.
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