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Reply #30 posted 10/03/07 10:51pm

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NWF said:

vainandy said:



You've got it totally backwards. The Black American audience was the first to accept him. The Europeans were the ones that kept him from going bankrupt in the mid to late 80s. That's why Prince constantly had his ass overseas touring during that time because he had pissed off a lot of people over here beginning with "Around The World In A Day".
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You're just never gonna let that go are you? lol Can't a negro experiment sometimes? Jeez, do they have to sound the same every record so that they'll get stale easily? lol

I'm proud of him not being confined to just one category, for that has influenced me as a Black artist to be free to go into every musical direction I want to. We know that Prince has the Funk. But Funk isn't everything dammit.

Anyways, interesting to see how my peoples caught on on to our purple hero first before he went thru to Pop/Rock door. But I'm sure that was at a time where Black artists were able to break some rules and push boundaries. That was at the same time of Punk and New Wave wink, so many folks, Black and White, picked on the DIY spirit and vibe of that.

Uhm... yes it is lol
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Reply #31 posted 10/04/07 1:13am

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Hey, I'm simply stating facts on how it all went down. I can't help it if I happen to agree with huge droves of R&B fans being pissed at him for doing a complete style change beginning with "Around The World In A Day". It's fun rubbing it in the facts though. lol


And you do it so well too! thumbs up!


Thank you. lol
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Reply #32 posted 10/04/07 1:16am

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LexNevermind said:

vainandy said:



Hey, I'm simply stating facts on how it all went down. I can't help it if I happen to agree with huge droves of R&B fans being pissed at him for doing a complete style change beginning with "Around The World In A Day". It's fun rubbing it in the facts though. lol

Back in the late 70's, before the malls and their chain record stores, the local mom and pop record shops always had P records and yes, we surely knew who he was, even from Soft and Wet. P was like MJ to us ol' skool fans back in the day, two brahs doing their thang. Back then there was probably only ONE black station that you could catch on the radio in your area, and I dont give a damn where you were! Even in NYC, WBLS was the only one that I can remember! And even though we could receive only one R&B station back then, P was still all over it. And when LRC dropped, it was no surprise to us, nothing new, just another hit from tha MAN! The Time albums, Vanity 6, I didnt know P was connected at that time, kinda suspected it, but they all had that SOUND. When the PR movie came out, the music was expected, we all went to see it just to see if P could really talk, since none of us had seen him do it before. I can remember when MJ and Thriller were domintaing THE WHOLE WORLD, asking myself, "Where the hell is P, and when is he gonna drop a record and do something about Mike?" Purple Rain did the trick. But when he dropped ATWIAD, most of us ol' skool, original fans were like WTF x's 10!!! And aside from SOTT its been pretty much the same for me ever since. But in answering your question, yes P was very important before '83 and very well known among us.


Down here in Jackson, Mississippi, we had three black stations back in the day....WJMI, WOKJ, and WKXI. All three stations were absolutely jamming back then and WJMI and WKXI were rivals so that made for some great radio.
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Reply #33 posted 10/04/07 1:23am

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sad that there doesn't seem to be any UK input here..So I'll add my bit on behalf of the UKorgers lol

I was a club DJ in late 79 and though to mid 80s and was lucky enough to get 12" promos of most of the singles. " Wanna b lover" and "Sexy D " always filled the "disco" dance floor..but most noticably a little later on ( as said somewhere above) it was the "new romantic /electro" scene that really went for his sound Uptown / Dirty mind .
It was that crowd really that I remember being at the Lyceum Show ( london 1981) and most of the music papers of the time (NME/MM) were pushing that view too.

By the time of the Dominion Theatre (London cancelled) show he was really Big on the "New Romo" dance floor . lets pretend we're married was a (import) single , purple and white frills were worn by everyone..even when "Doves" was realeased he was still mainly an "indie/underground" act..it was only the movies release (PR) and then the media hysteria that followed that finally got him the mainstream /crossover audience here in the uk...though I will also agree as stated elsewhere above "ATWIAD" did baffle a lot of them a year later..!
the rest as they say is history..!

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Reply #34 posted 10/04/07 1:49am

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gazzlornie said:

sad that there doesn't seem to be any UK input here..So I'll add my bit on behalf of the UKorgers lol

I was a club DJ in late 79 and though to mid 80s and was lucky enough to get 12" promos of most of the singles. " Wanna b lover" and "Sexy D " always filled the "disco" dance floor..but most noticably a little later on ( as said somewhere above) it was the "new romantic /electro" scene that really went for his sound Uptown / Dirty mind .
It was that crowd really that I remember being at the Lyceum Show ( london 1981) and most of the music papers of the time (NME/MM) were pushing that view too.

By the time of the Dominion Theatre (London cancelled) show he was really Big on the "New Romo" dance floor . lets pretend we're married was a (import) single , purple and white frills were worn by everyone..even when "Doves" was realeased he was still mainly an "indie/underground" act..it was only the movies release (PR) and then the media hysteria that followed that finally got him the mainstream /crossover audience here in the uk...though I will also agree as stated elsewhere above "ATWIAD" did baffle a lot of them a year later..!
the rest as they say is history..!

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It's great to see how he was known overseas back then. I knew that he was heard of over there because imports were made but I always wondered how popular he was.

It's strange how two countries across an ocean can be so entirely different in some ways and exactly the same in other ways.
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Reply #35 posted 10/04/07 2:26am

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Another thing I had forgotten to mention was his early musical influence on the UK "indie/alt" scene ..even back then (1980) alternative artists were covering his songs.. Bette Bright (Deaf School) covered "when you were mine"
and there was another cover of "broken heart " but I can't quite recall who did that.

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Reply #36 posted 10/04/07 2:45am

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My first memory of Prince was in 1981; there was an article about Dirty Mind in a Time International magazine...

He was very notorious at the time for his themes; which may not seem like such a big deal today, given the prevalence of rap music.

I was like eek whoa - at the time.
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Reply #37 posted 10/04/07 7:58am

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The fact that Prince was only accepted by the white audience b4 83 is totally false

Im too young to remember what was happening b4 83 but my mom said Prince

came to our home town (which has a large percentage of black people) back in

1978 during the For You album and she told me everyone loved him and was amazed

at how big his fro was !!! He was and still is respected here
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Reply #38 posted 10/04/07 8:07am

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I lived in Australia in 1982 and Controversy was being played on the radio there! He was well known before 1999, its just that he wasnt commercial yet. Prior to Dirty Mind, he was only known in the States.
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Reply #39 posted 10/04/07 8:11am

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Prince had been in the game for 5 years at that point and had already become the staple of music in my household and most of the people that I knew. Chicago radio was playing Prince aound the clock. Hope that helps.
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Reply #40 posted 10/04/07 2:20pm

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White folks came on board after the 'Little Red Corvette' started getting airplay.There were a minority at shows before that, but he was an r-n-b superstar first. His music always had some rock and folk elements from the beginning. It just came to the play a larger role in his sound later on. He definitely knew that he didn't want to be pigeonholed in one genre of music. After the release of 'Dirty Mind', he was the critics darling and they wrote of his potential to be one of the greats. Guess they were right!
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Reply #41 posted 10/04/07 5:22pm

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Prince was not appealing to every type of crowd when he first came out he was to wired up and weird for Black audiences here in the states and that may be why he prefers european audiences,they accepted him first.But The rest of the world soon followed.

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He was blowing up in the black communinity. Before LRC was a single he managed to sell out Joe Louis Areana in Detroit. A really big venue for an RnB star


Very true. nod Dirty Mind and Controversy were HUGE albums in Detroit--played at all the clubs and college parties I went to.
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Reply #42 posted 10/04/07 5:51pm

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Another thing I had forgotten to mention was his early musical influence on the UK "indie/alt" scene ..even back then (1980) alternative artists were covering his songs.. Bette Bright (Deaf School) covered "when you were mine"
and there was another cover of "broken heart " but I can't quite recall who did that.

Gx


I'm sure the UK kinda picked up on him too since P was influenced by the New Wave/New Romantic scene at that time. Visage, Adam Ant, and Gary Numan were pretty influential on Prince himself. nod
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Reply #43 posted 10/04/07 5:53pm

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White folks came on board after the 'Little Red Corvette' started getting airplay.There were a minority at shows before that, but he was an r-n-b superstar first. His music always had some rock and folk elements from the beginning. It just came to the play a larger role in his sound later on. He definitely knew that he didn't want to be pigeonholed in one genre of music. After the release of 'Dirty Mind', he was the critics darling and they wrote of his potential to be one of the greats. Guess they were right!


Oh, so I guess he wasn't just this totally underground cat that only a few people dug. hmmm Interesting.
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Reply #44 posted 10/05/07 3:55pm

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wlcm2thdwn said:

Prince was not appealing to every type of crowd when he first came out he was to wired up and weird for Black audiences here in the states and that may be why he prefers european audiences,they accepted him first.But The rest of the world soon followed.

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He was blowing up in the black communinity. Before LRC was a single he managed to sell out Joe Louis Areana in Detroit. A really big venue for an RnB star

I agree with you.The Black community went wild over Prince from the beginning.I was there in Detroit for that concert.His music in the beginning was much more funk than rock,something the Black community,old and young,could get with.I was one of the old ones(59 now)
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Reply #45 posted 10/05/07 4:39pm

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What amazes me is that in 1978, Prince was twenty. Prince was learning the guitar long before that....at least 5 years.....So when Prince is twenty-five, In 83' when 1999 came out....and the mtv video's were added...Communications were beginning to grow at that time...So I just look at this question, as to, Prince's growth between fifteen years old, and twenty-five....Good job Prince.

To add, I grew up with Prince on the radio, so it was with Radio stations, airplay that he got heard...He still would of been a damn good musician all alone in his basement, without recording a thing...We should be thankful that we were alive at a time there's been radio....A shout out for the early Telephone pioneers.... cool
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