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Thread started 06/11/07 2:30pm

coltrane3

What's the point of releasing diffrent singles and verisions of albums in different countries?

Prince and other artists have always released different singles in different countries, though many do overlap. Moreover, the same album distributed in a different country may have additional tracks, different versions of songs, or be seqenced differently.

What is this done?
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Reply #1 posted 06/11/07 3:09pm

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The point is ... to try to make as much money as possible.

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Reply #2 posted 06/11/07 3:12pm

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Trent Reznor from Nine Inch Nails explanes it all
On his web sight nin.com 2007-05-13

Trent said

As the climate grows more and more desperate for record labels, their answer to their mostly self-inflicted wounds seems to be to screw the consumer over even more. A couple of examples that quickly come to mind:

* The ABSURD retail pricing of Year Zero in Australia. Shame on you, UMG. Year Zero is selling for $34.99 Australian dollars ($29.10 US). No wonder people steal music. Avril Lavigne's record in the same store was $21.99 ($18.21 US).
By the way, when I asked a label rep about this his response was: "It's because we know you have a real core audience that will pay whatever it costs when you put something out - you know, true fans. It's the pop stuff we have to discount to get people to buy."
So... I guess as a reward for being a "true fan" you get ripped off.

* The dreaded EURO Maxi-single. Nothing but a consumer rip-off that I've been talked into my whole career. No more.

The point is, I am trying my best to make sure the music and items NIN puts in the marketplace have value, substance and are worth you considering purchasing. I am not allowing Capital G to be repackaged into several configurations that result in you getting ripped off.
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Reply #3 posted 06/11/07 5:15pm

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some songs are not appropriate for some countries, because of the kind of music that is popular there.


the reason why there are bonus tracks on international releases (especially in Japan) is because import versions from other countries are often cheaper than buying the domestic version. so they put a bonus track or 2 on the domestic version in that country so that people won't go for imports.
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Reply #4 posted 06/11/07 5:17pm

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Reply #5 posted 06/11/07 5:26pm

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Raze said:

the reason why there are bonus tracks on international releases (especially in Japan) is because import versions from other countries are often cheaper than buying the domestic version. so they put a bonus track or 2 on the domestic version in that country so that people won't go for imports.

Just so i understand...are u saying A cd from the "USA"
imported to Japan is cheaper to buy , Then one printed in Japan?
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Reply #6 posted 06/11/07 5:27pm

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mplsmike said:

Raze said:

the reason why there are bonus tracks on international releases (especially in Japan) is because import versions from other countries are often cheaper than buying the domestic version. so they put a bonus track or 2 on the domestic version in that country so that people won't go for imports.

Just so i understand...are u saying A cd from the "USA"
imported to Japan is cheaper to buy , Then one printed in Japan?



Not sure about that particular instance. More like, a CD from Australia might be cheaper in Japan than the Japanese version.
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Reply #7 posted 06/11/07 5:35pm

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a CD from Australia might be cheaper in Japan than the Japanese version

I didnt know that....
I allways figured any cd imported would cost more....no mattr what
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Reply #8 posted 06/11/07 5:37pm

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mplsmike said:

a CD from Australia might be cheaper in Japan than the Japanese version

I didnt know that....
I allways figured any cd imported would cost more....no mattr what



depends on the market. you can usually tell where imports are cheaper when the domestic version has a bonus track.
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Reply #9 posted 06/11/07 5:49pm

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Yeahh...i see your point.....but if the domestic version didnt have bonus tracks. would they retail near the same prince...I mean Price lol or still cost more...
basicly it all comes Down to $$
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Reply #10 posted 06/11/07 5:54pm

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But i do agre on what u said here
some songs are not appropriate for some countries

Example America Vs Paisly Park singles
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Reply #11 posted 06/11/07 6:58pm

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coltrane3 said:

Prince and other artists have always released different singles in different countries, though many do overlap. Moreover, the same album distributed in a different country may have additional tracks, different versions of songs, or be seqenced differently.

What is this done?


Interesting question! i wonder if it is because of language differences or maybe because he thought of a new way he wanted to express the same song or arrangement of his album.
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Reply #12 posted 06/11/07 7:14pm

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It depends on the market...

Let's take the Cinnamon Girl single for example:

The UK release contained "Cinnamon Girl", "United States Of Division" and "Dear Mr. Man" - all somewhat anti-Bush songs.

The US released contained only "Cinnamon Girl" and a short "making of" documentary - giving the single a less confrontational feel, perhaps to not offend his US Bush-loving fans lol.

But yeah, $$$ is still the main reason wink.
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Reply #13 posted 06/11/07 8:37pm

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About the pricing of CDs in Japan: basically they have a system where a CD is given a set price (inflated compared to the West, but the pricing hasn't really changed in 20 years which is surprising) and retailers aren't allowed to sell the CD for any cheaper than that price for at least 2 years after the date of release (ie. no discounting allowed!). Absolutely no reason for this, except that the record companies want to make money over there. But as compensation, they tend to add bonus tracks.

International bonus tracks (in the UK, Europe, Australia, Asia) are added to get sales outside the US up (so US-based fans buy international copies of the albums that they already own).

I also think the reason that different regions get different singles is that the labels in whatever country choose the singles that will be most well-received in their respective countries (like someone already said, America isn't really a single that'll be loved outside of America).
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