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Thread started 02/27/07 9:37pm

prettymansson

Could Prince's Hohner Tele actually be an H.S. Anderson ?

www.polaropposites.com/guitar.html






here's a pic from their 70's catalog...




I read somewhere that the company that made the H.C anderson "madcat" was also the same company that cranked out the hohner guitars that prince uses.
Mass production just a different name on the headstock. the guitar pictured below was purchased in the mid to late 70's.....Hmmmmm???

hmmm
[Edited 2/27/07 21:42pm]
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Reply #1 posted 02/27/07 9:39pm

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Prince's says "Hohner" on the headstock.
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Reply #2 posted 02/27/07 9:43pm

prettymansson

FruitToAttractBears said:

Prince's says "Hohner" on the headstock.

You didnt read the link.. confused
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Reply #3 posted 02/27/07 9:50pm

FrankSerpico

Could be.

Interesting article.

Either way, it appears that Prince modified the pick-up on his. When I saw him in Vegas last month, the pick-up looks like custom work.

I love that there are some real technical Prince fans out there who notice this stuff.
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Reply #4 posted 02/27/07 10:13pm

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prettymansson said:

FruitToAttractBears said:

Prince's says "Hohner" on the headstock.

You didnt read the link.. confused


I read the link. What's your point?
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Reply #5 posted 02/27/07 10:21pm

prettymansson

FruitToAttractBears said:

prettymansson said:


You didnt read the link.. confused


I read the link. What's your point?


MY POINT IS .THE LINK IS DISCUSSING HOW H.S. Anderson guitars SOLD THE GUITARS THROUGH THE HOHNER COMPANY & HOHNER SIMPLY SLAPPED A DIFFERENT LABEL ON THEM ....
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Reply #6 posted 02/28/07 7:50am

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A lot of speculation about a guitar that costs about the same amount of money as two milk cartons.
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Reply #7 posted 02/28/07 8:38am

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novabrkr said:

A lot of speculation about a guitar that costs about the same amount of money as two milk cartons.

pretty much. anyways...serious internet.
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Reply #8 posted 02/28/07 10:22am

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

novabrkr said:

A lot of speculation about a guitar that costs about the same amount of money as two milk cartons.

pretty much. anyways...serious internet.


I thought u were a diehard hohner fan..? this is very important info !!! lots of people are dying to get their hands on the hohner "PRINZ" models and they are in no way made with the same quality as the one's Prince actually uses..(the originals..not the ones made to cash in on prince's fame)
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Reply #9 posted 02/28/07 3:27pm

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Interesting. Also note that a "TE" prefix is on the Madcat and the Prinz. Of course the TE is supposed to mean TElecaster. But I'll bet a Madcat can be had for much less and be easily made into a pseudo-Hohner.
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Reply #10 posted 02/28/07 3:34pm

prettymansson

squirrelgrease said:

Interesting. Also note that a "TE" prefix is on the Madcat and the Prinz. Of course the TE is supposed to mean TElecaster. But I'll bet a Madcat can be had for much less and be easily made into a pseudo-Hohner.


agreed !!! but they are MEGA hard to find !!! and they are not shabby guitars at all....I have the hohner prinz model and it aint all that great !!!
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Reply #11 posted 02/28/07 3:42pm

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prettymansson said:

squirrelgrease said:

Interesting. Also note that a "TE" prefix is on the Madcat and the Prinz. Of course the TE is supposed to mean TElecaster. But I'll bet a Madcat can be had for much less and be easily made into a pseudo-Hohner.


agreed !!! but they are MEGA hard to find !!! and they are not shabby guitars at all....I have the hohner prinz model and it aint all that great !!!


I've heard that the post-Purple Rain Hohner Prinz' are kinda poopie. But people still want mad money for them.
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Reply #12 posted 03/01/07 11:42am

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prettymansson said:

squirrelgrease said:

Interesting. Also note that a "TE" prefix is on the Madcat and the Prinz. Of course the TE is supposed to mean TElecaster. But I'll bet a Madcat can be had for much less and be easily made into a pseudo-Hohner.


agreed !!! but they are MEGA hard to find !!! and they are not shabby guitars at all....I have the hohner prinz model and it aint all that great !!!



Did the people at Hohner name that guitar "Prinz" after Prince had become famous, or was it always called "Prinz" and Prince bought it because of the name ?
" I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?"
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Reply #13 posted 03/01/07 11:48am

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prettymansson said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:


pretty much. anyways...serious internet.


I thought u were a diehard hohner fan..? this is very important info !!! lots of people are dying to get their hands on the hohner "PRINZ" models and they are in no way made with the same quality as the one's Prince actually uses..(the originals..not the ones made to cash in on prince's fame)




I always thought that Prince´s original Hohner was actually a very cheap and shabby sounding guitar equipped with expensive pick-ups ? Other than that, what´s the difference between the old and the post-Purple Rain Hohners ?
And how many does Prince own ? I´ve seen several of them in one picture, but I thought they don´t make them anymore and he also sued them after they started making the guitar again, didn´t he ? Which is strange because I would have expected them to have a good relationship since he´s made that guitar so famous and popular.

Also, a bit off topic but how can Schecter make the symbol guitar when it was actually invented by Auerswald ? And there´s also another dude in Chicago who also claimed to have invented the symbol guitar.
" I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?"
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Reply #14 posted 03/01/07 11:54am

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KoolEaze said:

prettymansson said:



agreed !!! but they are MEGA hard to find !!! and they are not shabby guitars at all....I have the hohner prinz model and it aint all that great !!!



Did the people at Hohner name that guitar "Prinz" after Prince had become famous, or was it always called "Prinz" and Prince bought it because of the name ?


they did it after Purple rain.
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Reply #15 posted 03/01/07 11:55am

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prettymansson said:

KoolEaze said:




Did the people at Hohner name that guitar "Prinz" after Prince had become famous, or was it always called "Prinz" and Prince bought it because of the name ?


they did it after Purple rain.



Ahh, OK, then I can see why he sued them.
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Reply #16 posted 03/01/07 12:01pm

prettymansson

KoolEaze said:

prettymansson said:



they did it after Purple rain.



Ahh, OK, then I can see why he sued them.


Id love to answer your other questions but i need to log off now...I can tell you tho that the guitar that this post is about was Very well made and of excellent quality.....It was made in japan and japanese instruments are normally cheaper to manufacture than USA made stuff...but when this guitar was released many Industry people at the NAMM convention in the late 70's hailed it as one of the best japanese High quality instruments they had ever played...hence all the interest from companies like Hohner and Cort,to repackage them and sell them as their own ! wink
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Reply #17 posted 03/02/07 4:13pm

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KoolEaze said:

I always thought that Prince´s original Hohner was actually a very cheap and shabby sounding guitar equipped with expensive pick-ups ? Other than that, what´s the difference between the old and the post-Purple Rain Hohners ?


Actually, the Hohner which Prince first adopted was built well and sounded fantastic right out of the box. Prince did try out different pickups, but the guitar was pretty much stock down to the potentiometers.

The post-PR Hohners were completely different, from fretboard to headstock to wood quality and type. Plus they were meant to be mass produced to satisfy the Prince wannabes at a sellable price-point.

And how many does Prince own ? I´ve seen several of them in one picture, but I thought they don´t make them anymore and he also sued them after they started making the guitar again, didn´t he ? Which is strange because I would have expected them to have a good relationship since he´s made that guitar so famous and popular.


Prince did/does have a buttload of the originals, quality Hohners-which I'm sure were not easy to find, in various stages of playability and disrepair.

The TE Prinz moniker was used because Prince would not allow his name to be used in connection with what Hohner wanted to sell. Apparently, Prince followed with a lawsuit even though the name was spelled differently.


Also, a bit off topic but how can Schecter make the symbol guitar when it was actually invented by Auerswald ? And there´s also another dude in Chicago who also claimed to have invented the symbol guitar.


Auerswald and Schecter were probably only contracted to build the guitars, while Prince owned the actual blueprints. Just a theory of mine.
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Reply #18 posted 03/03/07 4:50am

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squirrelgrease said:

Auerswald and Schecter were probably only contracted to build the guitars, while Prince owned the actual blueprints. Just a theory of mine.


I was at the Alladin (Vegas) recently where a music memorabilia store has on display an original prototype produced by Auerswald. It was supposedly used by Prince in the studio and on stage. It's appearance (poor quality) was pretty shitty compared to the ones I've seen in photos and upclose on stage. That may be the reason he went with Schecter.
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Reply #19 posted 03/03/07 9:25am

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AzhnConnectzhn said:

squirrelgrease said:

Auerswald and Schecter were probably only contracted to build the guitars, while Prince owned the actual blueprints. Just a theory of mine.


I was at the Alladin (Vegas) recently where a music memorabilia store has on display an original prototype produced by Auerswald. It was supposedly used by Prince in the studio and on stage. It's appearance (poor quality) was pretty shitty compared to the ones I've seen in photos and upclose on stage. That may be the reason he went with Schecter.



Wow, interesting, because the one I had seen during the Gold era on several occasions when he was on tour was really nice and looked even a bit shinier and overall better than the Schecter ones.
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Reply #20 posted 03/03/07 9:26am

KoolEaze

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squirrelgrease said:

KoolEaze said:

I always thought that Prince´s original Hohner was actually a very cheap and shabby sounding guitar equipped with expensive pick-ups ? Other than that, what´s the difference between the old and the post-Purple Rain Hohners ?


Actually, the Hohner which Prince first adopted was built well and sounded fantastic right out of the box. Prince did try out different pickups, but the guitar was pretty much stock down to the potentiometers.

The post-PR Hohners were completely different, from fretboard to headstock to wood quality and type. Plus they were meant to be mass produced to satisfy the Prince wannabes at a sellable price-point.



Prince did/does have a buttload of the originals, quality Hohners-which I'm sure were not easy to find, in various stages of playability and disrepair.

The TE Prinz moniker was used because Prince would not allow his name to be used in connection with what Hohner wanted to sell. Apparently, Prince followed with a lawsuit even though the name was spelled differently.


Also, a bit off topic but how can Schecter make the symbol guitar when it was actually invented by Auerswald ? And there´s also another dude in Chicago who also claimed to have invented the symbol guitar.


Auerswald and Schecter were probably only contracted to build the guitars, while Prince owned the actual blueprints. Just a theory of mine.




Thanks for the info ! biggrin
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