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Thread started 02/27/07 1:56pm

Savage

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Playing Vids bought via the NPGMC

Has anyone tried to play them for a while? i just tried and they will not play anymore. Does this mean we have wasted our money? Or is it just me and the way I downloaded them on my PC?

Not happy if they have removed the vids!
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Reply #1 posted 02/27/07 2:14pm

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You been under a rock for the last 8 months or what? lol
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Reply #2 posted 02/27/07 2:17pm

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I want that Question of U/Fallin video! mad
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Reply #3 posted 02/27/07 2:18pm

mymocha

I can play the Videos just fine.
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Reply #4 posted 02/27/07 2:38pm

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To play them you always needed a drm license. When you first played them, they automatically connected to the internet and obtained the license from the npgmc site - and then it gave you the opportunity to save them onto your computer.

If you haven't changed your pc or hardrive, the pathway to the saved licenses should remain the same, so the licenses should still be there and you can still play the videos.

But if those licenses have been lost or where never saved or you have changed your pc in someway, then the videos can no longer retrieve the licenses from the npgmc site because it isn't there anymore, and that's the end of playing them.

It sucks, I know.
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Reply #5 posted 02/27/07 3:03pm

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Yeah I had some downloads but then I sold my computer to my sister..
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Reply #6 posted 02/27/07 3:22pm

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With the audio downloads, it was possible (whilst the relevant DRM licence was intact) to burn to disc for private use and therefore 'save' a version for ongoing use which did not rely on the licence in case of computer change severing the link with the licence, or the PC failing to identify the relevant licence.

I have not come across a simple and satisfactory solution that applies to the video downloads to assist people who paid for these to enable them to continue enjoying them.
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Reply #7 posted 02/27/07 4:06pm

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metalorange said:

To play them you always needed a drm license. When you first played them, they automatically connected to the internet and obtained the license from the npgmc site - and then it gave you the opportunity to save them onto your computer.

If you haven't changed your pc or hardrive, the pathway to the saved licenses should remain the same, so the licenses should still be there and you can still play the videos.

But if those licenses have been lost or where never saved or you have changed your pc in someway, then the videos can no longer retrieve the licenses from the npgmc site because it isn't there anymore, and that's the end of playing them.

It sucks, I know.


And if you have a Mac, it don't matter if you saved them -- cuz you had to get the license every...muthafunkin'...time you played 'em. They're just gone.

Not that I'm bitter or anything... lol
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Reply #8 posted 02/27/07 4:13pm

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If you upgraded to the new Widows Media Player, the DRM may have been temporarily "lost". Microsoft has a bug fix on their site to rectify the DRM/NPGMC files connection.
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Reply #9 posted 02/27/07 4:18pm

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squirrelgrease said:

If you upgraded to the new Widows Media Player, the DRM may have been temporarily "lost". Microsoft has a bug fix on their site to rectify the DRM/NPGMC files connection.


Which, of course, does not apply to Macs.
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Reply #10 posted 02/27/07 4:33pm

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Genesia said:

squirrelgrease said:

If you upgraded to the new Widows Media Player, the DRM may have been temporarily "lost". Microsoft has a bug fix on their site to rectify the DRM/NPGMC files connection.


Which, of course, does not apply to Macs.


Of course.

I'm a Mac guy, through and through, but I gotta have a PC for shit like this.

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Reply #11 posted 03/01/07 12:47pm

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squirrelgrease said:

If you upgraded to the new Widows Media Player, the DRM may have been temporarily "lost". Microsoft has a bug fix on their site to rectify the DRM/NPGMC files connection.


I have given up trying to play this again. Unless anyone can help me with the nitty gritty?

Cheers
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Reply #12 posted 03/01/07 2:55pm

Jestyr

I have a PC with Windows XP OS. In the same folder my original NPGMC files appear, there is also a folder named License Backup. These should contain all the licenses required to run the audio and video files. There are four files in the folder (there may be more or fewer depending on how many backups you did): drmv2lic.bak, drmv2key.bak, drmv1lic.bak and drmv1key.bak. If you see this folder, try copying it into the same folder as your audio and video files on your new computer and see if that works.
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Reply #13 posted 03/01/07 4:06pm

funkyhead

strange , i somehow managed to get all mine onto my IPOD, good luck cuz there's some great live vids on there.
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Reply #14 posted 03/01/07 5:05pm

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I know what u mean, NPGMC videos.

Very rear ones u can only watch on NPGMC:

Like

The Holy River,
I Like it There,
Cinnimon Girl,
Call MY Name,
All Musicology Vids.

Well u can get these and many rear videos if u look on the net. E Donkey bein the best.

Sam 8)
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Reply #15 posted 03/02/07 3:36pm

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Savage said:

squirrelgrease said:

If you upgraded to the new Widows Media Player, the DRM may have been temporarily "lost". Microsoft has a bug fix on their site to rectify the DRM/NPGMC files connection.


I have given up trying to play this again. Unless anyone can help me with the nitty gritty?

Cheers



http://www.prince.org/msg...sg_4372385
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Reply #16 posted 03/02/07 8:49pm

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squirrelgrease said:

Savage said:



I have given up trying to play this again. Unless anyone can help me with the nitty gritty?

Cheers



http://www.prince.org/msg...sg_4372385



So where is the bug fix on that link? I upgraded to WMP 11 and lost my NPGMC vids too. Had I known I wouldn't have bothered as I had all my licenses saved and now I can't even get to the drm backup file. I rolled back to WMP 10 and got some of my other vids back just not the ones I actually had to pay for. This blows. And for once it's not a music club screw up it's a bs windows upgrade screw up.

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Reply #17 posted 03/03/07 6:11pm

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Ifsixwuz9 said:

squirrelgrease said:




So where is the bug fix on that link? I upgraded to WMP 11 and lost my NPGMC vids too. Had I known I wouldn't have bothered as I had all my licenses saved and now I can't even get to the drm backup file. I rolled back to WMP 10 and got some of my other vids back just not the ones I actually had to pay for. This blows. And for once it's not a music club screw up it's a bs windows upgrade screw up.

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You still have your NPGMC DRMs. You have to work with Microsoft's fix for WMP to find those DRMs.

I do not have a direct link to the fix, I had to do a little investigating for the repair, but it's out there.
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Reply #18 posted 03/04/07 11:34am

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squirrelgrease said:

Ifsixwuz9 said:




So where is the bug fix on that link? I upgraded to WMP 11 and lost my NPGMC vids too. Had I known I wouldn't have bothered as I had all my licenses saved and now I can't even get to the drm backup file. I rolled back to WMP 10 and got some of my other vids back just not the ones I actually had to pay for. This blows. And for once it's not a music club screw up it's a bs windows upgrade screw up.

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[Edited 3/2/07 20:58pm]


You still have your NPGMC DRMs. You have to work with Microsoft's fix for WMP to find those DRMs.

I do not have a direct link to the fix, I had to do a little investigating for the repair, but it's out there.


Ok thanks. It just pisses me off that Microsoft knows this is a problem and has not taken steps to alert people of the fix or make it obvious on their website.
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Reply #19 posted 03/05/07 5:58am

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squirrelgrease said:



You still have your NPGMC DRMs. You have to work with Microsoft's fix for WMP to find those DRMs.

I do not have a direct link to the fix, I had to do a little investigating for the repair, but it's out there.


I don't think the npgmc drms are online anymore? I never upgraded to WMP 11 but I did install a new hard-drive and system, and even using the old WMP it tries to find the licenses online but fails. I have the licenses backed up but I can't figure how to point the WMP at them, nor do I know if they'd work since it is a new hard-drive and therefore essentially a new computer to the one they were originally saved on (and of course they were never transferable between computers, the licenses got coded somehow to your individual pc, you had to re-download the licences fresh on each computer you used).

What I'm saying is it isn't simply a case of a bug-fix in everybody's case, as far as I know.
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Reply #20 posted 03/05/07 6:19am

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metalorange said:

squirrelgrease said:



You still have your NPGMC DRMs. You have to work with Microsoft's fix for WMP to find those DRMs.

I do not have a direct link to the fix, I had to do a little investigating for the repair, but it's out there.


I don't think the npgmc drms are online anymore? I never upgraded to WMP 11 but I did install a new hard-drive and system, and even using the old WMP it tries to find the licenses online but fails. I have the licenses backed up but I can't figure how to point the WMP at them, nor do I know if they'd work since it is a new hard-drive and therefore essentially a new computer to the one they were originally saved on (and of course they were never transferable between computers, the licenses got coded somehow to your individual pc, you had to re-download the licences fresh on each computer you used).

What I'm saying is it isn't simply a case of a bug-fix in everybody's case, as far as I know.
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You are correct that a HD rebuild or replace will wipe out the DRMs. But since you backed them up, you should be able to re-unite the licenses. The WMP 11 has some info on this, and should have a link to the proper re-link procedure.

The bug fix was intended for the loss that occured during upgrade of the WMP and not HD or OS replacement.

Since you have back-ups, you should be in good shape to rectify your files.
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Reply #21 posted 03/11/07 1:35pm

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OK. I found the link to correct NPGMC/Third Party DRM losses when upgrading to Windows Media Player v11.

http://support.microsoft....9589/en-us

Click on the above link and then on the link under "Resolution".

This will not fix your NPGMC DRMs if you have changed your OS or storage hardware.
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Reply #22 posted 03/11/07 4:27pm

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squirrelgrease said:

OK. I found the link to correct NPGMC/Third Party DRM losses when upgrading to Windows Media Player v11.

http://support.microsoft....9589/en-us

Click on the above link and then on the link under "Resolution".

This will not fix your NPGMC DRMs if you have changed your OS or storage hardware.



Yay! Thanks Squirrel.
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